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Posted by Mr.Mystery on Dec-07-2006 17:10:

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Originally posted by Allied Nations
Hahah this hatin' on Julien is funny, you people get so serious sometimes...

He's joking, from what I know of him from the times I've met him, he;s joking - quit getting you're panties in a twist folks.

I always thought jokes were supposed to be funny.


Posted by Allied Nations on Dec-07-2006 17:18:

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
I always thought jokes were supposed to be funny.


I laughed.


Posted by Abhay on Dec-08-2006 01:21:

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Originally posted by Sykonee
Actually, there is a disturbing trend of over-production going on in a lot of trance music lately. The compression rate between highs and lows gets squeezed so much to make the tracks sound big and bold, the tracks don't leave much breathing space between the frequencies. As a result, when played on a sound-system that amplifies this, you are left with a 'wall of sound' that drowns out harmonic dynamics.



Yeah, and it's more of a bitch to manipulate the track on the EQ knobs on the mixer.


Posted by TOR on Dec-08-2006 10:48:

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Originally posted by isoterra
this is a good point.. i personally love that 'wall of sound' feel but it makes melodic elements hard to fit into the mix; i've discovered this myself when producing. i think this is why you tend to hear less huge supersaws in uplifting trance than you did in years gone by.. they normally get substituted for softer, shorter synths that take up less room in the frequency table


I noticed this as well. Unfortunately a lot of tracks do not have a memorable hook because of that.


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Originally posted by Xtatica
Dude it has to be loud otherwise how can you feel that kick and bass - you must be seriously listening to the wrong type of trance.

When I play trance I need to 'feel it'........


Since when are kick and bass the essence of trance?
It's all about melody/harmony.


Posted by sleepydragon on Dec-08-2006 10:54:

Re: Trance: Why does it sound so terrible when played really loud?

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Originally posted by the_transient
I haven't been to a club yet because I just turned 21, so I don't know if they are any different.


what a joke dont you love america 21 what a stupid law


Posted by isoterra on Dec-08-2006 11:49:

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Originally posted by TOR
Since when are kick and bass the essence of trance?
It's all about melody/harmony.


it's about a good balance of both

it's true that well produced tunes are generally forgettable if the hook isn't there, but at the same time a tune can have an awesome melody but just won't get the airtime if it has a piss weak kick/bass


Posted by Xtatica on Dec-08-2006 12:28:

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Originally posted by TOR

Since when are kick and bass the essence of trance?
It's all about melody/harmony.


true dude, but an example is William Orbit - Barbers Adagio for Strings (Ferry Corsten remix ...)

feel the bass in that its awsome -


Posted by UWM on Dec-08-2006 13:37:

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Originally posted by trancepunkk
so why are u on these forums u ignorant fuck??? get the fuck out already...go on a house forum or something..


So those of us who joined this forum years ago and don't really listen to trance anymore should just leave because we're 'ignorant fucks'? I see.


Posted by halexander837 on Dec-08-2006 14:39:

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Originally posted by ClearVision
i went to two of the local clubs in spokane while i was there... they sucked... period.


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Originally posted by dj_kane
sums up americas nightlife



Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-08-2006 15:20:

The never-ending beat is one of the key ingrediants to trance's hypnotic and kinetic feeling. I think good bass is very important, because the body responds to the beat almost unconsciously. Your heart beat will start to mimick a strong rhythm, for example.


Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on Dec-08-2006 17:36:

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Your heart beat will start to mimick a strong rhythm, for example.


I doubt it very much :P


Posted by Abhay on Dec-08-2006 18:07:

I enjoy trance much better off a good , BALANCED, clean, crisp, sound system, off a Audio CD.

With a sound like that^ it's no problem at all to go very loud, and you get less listening fatigue like headaches etc.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-08-2006 18:43:

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7
I doubt it very much :P


Obviously the two aren't gonna beatmatch, but I believe the heart will speed up or slow down depending on the tempo of the beat.

EDIT: Just to clarify, I got this information from a science teacher.


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