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Originally posted by Pett If your in REM sleep (where dreaming takes place) you actually are paralyzed , this might explain it.

sleep paralysis is freaky. it occurs during rem sleep, but people (most commonly in those who have sleep disorders) are woken up during that stage of sleep. their body still is paralysed, but their brain is active.

the creepy thing is that ever since it has been documented, people have been having hallucinations upon waking..and everyone has the same one. its some lady sitting on their chest, preventing their movement. it can last several seconds, or minutes, until the muscles are suddenly able to respond

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Originally posted by Sasha Life is a disease, sexually transmitted and fatal! cheer up Lisa

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Originally posted by Surreal JRS Find them and destroy them!

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Originally posted by zokissima

Very cool video!!

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Dreams are our subconscious realm taking visual shape, and as

I agree.

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Originally posted by Irishaddict Stop eating cheese before bed.

Eat toast instead! Its AMAZING before bed food!

Me and Katy and Danica after a MASSIVE night of drinking used to have a ritual at my house where we'd hafta go upstairs and make some toasted before we passed out!

I miss easting toast more often after a night of drinking and before going to bed in general! Im starting it back up as of tonight!

(On my 4th piece right now! More to be consumed immediately before bedtime too!)

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Originally posted by spitty the creepy thing is that ever since it has been documented, people have been having hallucinations upon waking..and everyone has the same one. its some lady sitting on their chest, preventing their movement. it can last several seconds, or minutes, until the muscles are suddenly able to respond

I've heard of this. I forget what it's called. A friend of mind had this disorder. It's not always the same hallucination...with the lady...but it's a variation of it.

Lisa, deep sleep is not REM sleep. REM occurs when your brain acts like it is awake but you are not awake.

Stages of Sleep:

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The cycle between sleep and wakefulness involves different stages of sleep. Currently, scientists divide sleep into two general types: REM (Rapid Eye Movement) and NREM (non-REM). REM sleep is characterized by desynchronization of the electroencephalograph (EEG), loss of skeletal muscle tone, and sympathetic nervous system activity; whereas non-rapid eye movement sleep is characterized by parasympathetic nervous system activity (Legramante & Galante, 2005). Non-REM accounts for 75�80% of total sleep time: Stage 1, with near-disappearance of the alpha waves seen in awake states, and appearance for the first time of theta waves. The stage is sometimes referred to as somnolence, or "drowsy sleep". It appears at sleep onset (as it is mostly a transition state into Stage 2) and dano is my main homie in all of my entire life...especially in bed... is associated with the sudden twitches or hypnic jerks many people experience when falling asleep. While these are normal and of no concern, the hypnagogic hallucinations which some people may experience at this stage can be more troublesome. During this period, the subject loses some muscle tone, and conscious awareness of the external environment: Stage 1 can be thought of as a gateway state between wake and sleep. Stage 2, with "sleep spindles" (12�16 Hz) and "K-complexes." The EMG lowers, and conscious awareness of the external environment disappears. This occupies 45�55% of total sleep. Stage 3, with delta waves, also called delta rhythms (.5�4 Hz), is considered part of slow-wave sleep (SWS) and functions primarily as a transition into stage four. Overall it occupies 3�8% of total sleep time. Stage 4 is true delta sleep. It predominates the first third of the night and accounts for 10�15% of total sleep time. This is often described as the deepest stage of sleep; it is exceedingly difficult to wake a subject in this state. This is the stage in which night terrors, bed wetting, sleepwalking, and sleeptalking occur. Stage 4 Sleep. EEG highlighted by red box. REM Sleep. EEG highlighted by red box. Eye movements highlighted by red line.REM sleep is popularly associated with dreaming, especially bizarre, visual, and seemingly random dreams; however, dreams can also occur during sleep onset (hypnogogia) and during all stages of Non-REM sleep. REM sleep is predominant in the final third of a sleep period; its timing is linked to circadian rhythm and body temperature. The EEG in this period is aroused and looks similar to stage 1, and sometimes includes beta waves. Also known as Stage 5 sleep. Sleep proceeds in cycles of NREM and REM phases. In humans, the cycle of REM and NREM is approximately 90 minutes. Each stage may have a distinct physiological function. Drugs such as alcohol and sleeping pills can suppress certain stages of sleep (see Sleep deprivation). This can result in a sleep that exhibits loss of consciousness but does not fulfill its physiological functions. Each sleep stage is not necessarily uniform. Within a given stage, a cyclical alternating pattern may be observed. Both REM sleep and NREM sleep stages 3 and 4 are homeostatically driven; that is, selective deprivation of each of these states subsequently causes a rebound in their appearance once the person is allowed to sleep. This finding leads to the ubiquitous assumption that both are essential in the sleep process and its many functions. REM sleep may also be driven by a circadian oscillator, as studies have shown that REM is temporally coupled with the circadian rhythm of temperature.

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess Lisa, deep sleep is not REM sleep. REM occurs when your brain acts like it is awake are almost awake. Stages of Sleep:

Thanks Margs...I was actually reading up on sleep on Wikipedia

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Originally posted by spitty its some lady sitting on their chest, preventing their movement. it can last several seconds, or minutes, until the muscles are suddenly able to respond

This comment reminds me of when I fall asleep while doing the arm stretch (usually when its stretched out and pressed underneath my body, as opposed to just stretched above my head... the latter is the 2nd half to the stretch, while the former is the 1st half of it).

The underneath part of it constricts the blood vessels a lot more, thus the side-effect described below is incredibly more pronounced.

I'll wake up like that at some point in the night and I literally have no movement at all of that arm. None. Like I will look at it in the dark and I'll make the thought to move my fingers or to raise my arm, but there will be absolutely no response. You feel urself trying to move your fingers, but you simply cannot.

Usually after several minutes when I guess the blood starts to flow through my arm and hand again, I can start to bend it at the elbow or be able to actually lift my my arm again, or be able to move my fingers around. Its still longer until i can do something like making a TIGHTly held fist though.

Then what is followed is the most intense 'pins and needles' sensation EVER. Its Beyond words having that unique, shocking sensitivity surging through the entirely of your arm (not just like your foot!) But I've long ago gotten used to it, and it doesnt bother me the way it used to anymore (much like upper body sunburns). Constant exposure breads tolerance.

Im not even unsettled anymore when I wake up with my arm entirely, completely "asleep" (the way ones foot can and does fall asleep, only much more drastically). I know you just gotta wait it out, then all's normal again.

First time it ever happened it terrified me, though, I recall. But this would have been well over 15 years ago.

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* I've heard of this. I forget what it's called. A friend of mind had this disorder. It's not always the same hallucination...with the lady...but it's a variation of it.

NIGHT TERRORS! That's what the disorder is called.

Sometimes I'll be dozing off before I go to sleep and all of a sudden my body freaks the fuck out as if I've just been jolted with a defibrillator. It's so fucked.

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 Sometimes I'll be dozing off before I go to sleep and all of a sudden my body freaks the fuck out as if I've just been jolted with a defibrillator. It's so fucked.

Ya...it's annoying too and scares the hell out of me

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 Sometimes I'll be dozing off before I go to sleep and all of a sudden my body freaks the fuck out as if I've just been jolted with a defibrillator. It's so fucked.

Weird, that happens to me too! Im totally awake for a few seconds after, and then start to fall asleep again after the initial WTF was that.

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* Ya...it's annoying too and scares the hell out of me

hahahahahaha lol

ive had many dreams where i die. i even had a dream god told me i was going to die soon. so i should watch out i guess. sometimes if i cant really fall asleep but start dreaming of things, your body actually reacts. for ex. i was thinking one night what it would be like to fall off a cliff. i envisioned the whole thing and when i saw myself hit the ground, my whole body shook like i actually fell off the cliff. that was pretty intense.

rem sleep is also addicting. i dunno about you guys, but i love waking up then going back to bed for like 15 minutes and have some trippy dreams. i could do this for 2 hrs and have many episodes. however this is very tiring on the brain and body. the rest of the day feels like a hangover

Nightwish

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 Sometimes I'll be dozing off before I go to sleep and all of a sudden my body freaks the fuck out as if I've just been jolted with a defibrillator. It's so fucked.

that's pretty common. it's like all the electricity in your body synchronizes and goes off at the same time. usually feels like you just fell off of something.

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess that's pretty common. it's like all the electricity in your body synchronizes and goes off at the same time. usually feels like you just fell off of something.

It's called hypnagogic myoclonus.

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess that's pretty common. it's like all the electricity in your body synchronizes and goes off at the same time. usually feels like you just fell off of something.

The other option is obstructive apnea.

If one tends to have these "twitches" more than once per night (early in the sleep cycle) it is worth getting checked out for apnea.

It is NOT normal to have these twitches multiple times per night nor is it normal to have them deep in the sleep cycle (more than 45 minutes past initial sleep time).

Obstructive apnea can be deadly. If you think you may have such a problem please get checked out by your doctor.

I have actually died in a dream, and to this day that dream bothers me.

The feeling you get when you die is something completely indescribable.

Anyway, I'm still alive, so obviously I don't believe it to be true.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker The other option is obstructive apnea. If one tends to have these "twitches" more than once per night (early in the sleep cycle) it is worth getting checked out for apnea. It is NOT normal to have these twitches multiple times per night nor is it normal to have them deep in the sleep cycle (more than 45 minutes past initial sleep time). Obstructive apnea can be deadly. If you think you may have such a problem please get checked out by your doctor.

I was about to ask whether this was common or not...because this tends to happen multiple times a night for me...not everyday though. :/

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 Sometimes I'll be dozing off before I go to sleep and all of a sudden my body freaks the fuck out as if I've just been jolted with a defibrillator. It's so fucked.

LOL me 2!!

once that happened to me in the library and I flicked my highlighter into the face of the guy in front of me ahhahaahah

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess that's pretty common. it's like all the electricity in your body synchronizes and goes off at the same time. usually feels like you just fell off of something.

oh wow that REALLY scares me

and i always thought i'm the only who has them

really really freaky... i could be already having a beginning of a dream and BANG! it feels like i jumped a mile up cos of the jolt

Have died quite a few times (IRL and in dreams) and still going.


I cannot die.......I....am.......forever........

I know for a fact this is just a myth. I've "died" on many occasions in my dreams, and continued to dream after my "death". Enlightening experiences they were.

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Originally posted by jennypie I know for a fact this is just a myth. I've "died" on many occasions in my dreams, and continued to dream after my "death". Enlightening experiences they were.

but when i blow my load in my dreams i wake up sticky

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Originally posted by zokissima No, I don't believe that if you die in your dreams, you will die in 'real' life. Dreams are our subconscious realm taking visual shape, and as such things in dreams never mean their literal meaning.

Word for word agree with you 100%
And by the way no "study" can prove ANYTHING regarding dreams imo.
Always hated such studies cause they can NEVER prove anything, all just assumptions/hypotheses.

U cant PROVE why something happened in a dream....

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker The other option is obstructive apnea.

I totally agree...my friend who is 22 has obstructive apnea, and only found out about it the hard way (driving home tired, fell asleep on the wheel and crashed...he didn't have recollection of the time he dozed off to the time he got to the hospital). He now sleeps with a mask on to ensure the enough oxygen is being delievered while he's asleep. He also has to change his lifestyle (i.e. eating more healthy and exercise) to maintain a reasonable weight (he is a bit overweight, and this is one of the contributing factors responsible for apnea).

I've never dreamt about being dead, but I did dream about me about to die on the wheel, but woke up from it. I've also had episodes of sleep paralysis (nothing too recent though)...and I get really freaked out. I should probably tell my doc about this

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