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Originally posted by Ian 1994-2004 - brilliant anything after - horrendous Ferrys' problem was that the thing he was best at, the full on uplifting dutch trance went out. Everyone was looking at where he'd go next, he even had a spell of playing borderline techno stuff in 2004, but then he seemed to go into the row/lef stuff which was an abonomation. Best works were 97-2001 imo, and he played a lot of good livesets too back then. Now It's not worth it at all, sad really.

Hmm, I'd probably just about agree with this...

He made a few productions in 2004 (notably his remixes of 'F Massif - Somebody' and 'BT - Force of Gravity') that I actually thought were awesome, and amidst the flock of people that were criticising his change in style at this time I was actually impressed and very hopeful that he was making positive moves.

However, I have to agree with SYSTEM-J; the 'LEF' album is pretty gash. The electro thing has become almost too simplistic for me now. I enjoyed 'Punk' and even 'Rock Your Body Rock' to some extent, because they were relatively ground-breaking in terms of genre bending, and they had some BEEF about them. Since then though, he's dumbed down the style more and more to the extent where we're left with fairly poor efforts like 'LEF' and then the downright shit 'Watch Out'.

I saw him twice this year, once at Godskitchen (very impressed) and once at Global Gathering (a bit average, but yeah Cubikated went off nicely).

I'd still consider myself a fan of his DJing, particularly when he DOESN'T just play sets of his own productions chained together in a long line, but as a producer I think he's just becoming a failed experiment.

I mean, he has talent, everyone knows that.
He's just tried something, it hasn't worked, and he's been clutching at straws for far too long now.

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Originally posted by Col Hmm, I'd probably just about agree with this... He made a few productions in 2004 (notably his remixes of 'F Massif - Somebody' and 'BT - Force of Gravity') that I actually thought were awesome, and amidst the flock of people that were criticising his change in style at this time I was actually impressed and very hopeful that he was making positive moves. However, I have to agree with SYSTEM-J; the 'LEF' album is pretty gash. The electro thing has become almost too simplistic for me now. I enjoyed 'Punk' and even 'Rock Your Body Rock' to some extent, because they were relatively ground-breaking in terms of genre bending, and they had some BEEF about them. Since then though, he's dumbed down the style more and more to the extent where we're left with fairly poor efforts like 'LEF' and then the downright shit 'Watch Out'. .

For your first part, I'm in total agreement, and would also add his edit of Insolation to the good (if simple) tracks. Punk was awesome when it first came out (lets remember it's 5 years ago now) and was definitely special for what it was (not so much when the commercial release & vocoded sample came out) I think though that there isn't a market for the sounds he's best known for now.

If anyone has heard his early works & releases cd, it shows that he has diversity & could definitely suceed in another genre, but he needs to go for something that has substance & longevity in it else he'll not get anywhere far before people are fed up again. He was lucky to ride the wave of epic, where he goes now (if he does) i'll pay attention even if i'm not a fan

Although I found 'Early Works' to be a bit wank, I'd definitely agree with you that it shows a diversity which his current material shows nothing of.

I think Ferry's just always been so near the top without quite getting there, he probably wants to milk this stuff for a bit longer and see if it'll take him there (take the hint though mate, it won't.)

He's got some talent, hopefully a few years down the line he'll throw it into something with a bit more substance.



Edit: By "top", I mean like Tiesto, PvD, DJ Mag sorta limelight, nothing profound.

I love seeing Ferry DJ, yeah he doesnt have the most innovative track selection, but his mixing is always spot on and most importantly of all, its always alot of fun.

Production wise, the last thing of his I really got into was ROW and Kyoto. LEF was ok, didnt grab me that much though.

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Originally posted by Col Although I found 'Early Works' to be a bit wank, I'd definitely agree with you that it shows a diversity which his current material shows nothing of.

yeah, quality wise it's not brill in places (about 3 gems on it imo) but it shows he can do a lot more than most people know him for.

To me Ferry is one of the great "party djs". He doesnt take himself too seriously, and thats whats best about him. Regardless of what he's playing he only has one intention, and thats to get people going nuts.

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Originally posted by Clovis To me Ferry is one of the great "party djs". He doesnt take himself too seriously, and thats whats best about him. Regardless of what he's playing he only has one intention, and thats to get people going nuts.

Very true, I also find he acts (and dresses) very modestly which adds to his charm.
None of the Erick Morillo syndrome.

Although I realise his conduct and personality aren't really in debate here...

his oldschool stuff under his moonman and system f aliases were easily his best productions but im still a huge fan of the sound he was going for in right of way. i dont like the direction hes taking now like most of u guys it seems, although i did enjoy "fire". hes still done heaps for trance and deserves respect whether your a fan of his work or not. dont be afraid and soul on soul aswell as alot of his other stuff are some of my favourite tracks ever.

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Originally posted by Ian 1994-2004 - brilliant anything after - horrendous Best works were 97-2001 imo, and he played a lot of good livesets too back then. Now It's not worth it at all, sad really.

horrendous. i like it.

i wonder if he will ever go back to his gouryella roots, the full on uplifting dutch trance as u so elequantly put it, i cant see it happening, but it would be nice.

I've got a whole lot of respect for Ferry Corsten because he was the one who got me into trance back in 2000.

All his work from "Don't Be Afraid" under the Moonman guise until his own and the Right of Way-album was great stuff. Though, I started disliking some of his tracks on Right of Way early.

His sets from 1999 until 2003 are still great and I listen to them occasinally once in a while.

He produced his best works during the big "trance-era" and I totally agree with Ian on that point.

Though, ever since he started producing and playing these L.E.F-tracks I've almost stopped listening to him at times, but as soon as I hear something new from Ferr, I always make sure to check it out to be sure.

I remember his interview at Nature One 2006 on Sunshine Live Radio where he stated that he loved electro, but still love the trance he plays and listens to. He said that he probably would never turn back and start playing the stuff he had already played/produced for almost 7 years. This is a guy who likes taking risks and isn't afraid of dissapoint if the masses wouldn't like his stuff.

He seems very down to earth and people really appreciate what he does, so I guess he's very happy with doing that. I've almost never heard anything bad about him.

It's funny that the best track of LEF (among with "Beautiful") is "I Love You" which was produced in late 2004. I have to agree with most of the people here. As a dj Ferry is great but as a producer he needs to get back to the basics. Still he has a special place in my heart for his old productions (Galaxia,Out Of The Blue,remix of Barber's Adagio For Strings,remix of Force Of Gravity etc)

If he had made music by just using his intros and outros from System F and Gouryella, he'd be my favorite producer. I didn't much care for the melodies that followed.

Haven't seen him DJ much, though. I get the impression his parties are quite fun, though.

That Zoukout(SG) theme song (prob L.E.F) he did is a joke. Horrible time finish watching that zoukout advertisement.
He's done lotsa uber choons back then but going downhill.

its funny how if u ever read his forum you wont find a bad comment from his fans who go on there about his new album.....its probably incredibly biased though and to go on a forum only about ferry corsten, ud have to be fucking obsessed

its funny how if u ever read his forum you wont find a bad comment from his fans who go on there about his new album.....its probably incredibly biased though and to go on a forum only about ferry corsten, ud have to be fucking obsessed

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Originally posted by trancepunkk its funny how if u ever read his forum you wont find a bad comment from his fans who go on there about his new album.....its probably incredibly biased though and to go on a forum only about ferry corsten, ud have to be fucking obsessed

A lot of forums for musicians will often deleate critical comments. After all, it's bad for business (and, er, the ego).

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Originally posted by trancepunkk its funny how if u ever read his forum you wont find a bad comment from his fans who go on there about his new album.....its probably incredibly biased though and to go on a forum only about ferry corsten, ud have to be fucking obsessed

Beautiful post.

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Originally posted by KilldaDJ trance energy 2000 is where he shines, his production and remix work from 1999-2002 is mint, nowadays hes just meh to me.

ditto, i always loved the system f productions, he stayed pretty consistent up until 2005, where I began to have a hard time getting into his productions or sets. everything started sounding like Punk. I still love ferry, he is capable of dropping insane sets despite getting loaded but i reminisce about the old ferry these days.

though admittedly i still try and see him every time he is in town.

I'll echo the sentiment of many others in this thread that LEF was a big letdown. The only thing that grabbed me was Cubikated -- especially massive live -- but that's almost entirely to the credit of 808 State, not Ferry.

I think Ferry hit apex at Needlejuice and Indigo. Right of Way was one of my favorite singles from 2003, but carried a whiff of desperation. You could tell time was running out. That the epic stuff from Right of Way made an impact at all so late in the trance game is impressive in itself, and a testament to his ability in producing the Dutch style. But it was clear from Kyoto and Sweet Sorrow that he had pushed the sound to its limits. Those were swan songs of epic.

Like Clovis said, Ferry has always been a great "party DJ". He's never been near as self-conscious as the other trance bigwigs, and that's part of what made his fun epic slosh work. The rest is that he's technically a cut above other trance DJs, and keeps the details tight. He can tracklist if bothered, though most of the time that's not the point.

Ian mentioned his brief affair with some techno, and I wish he had taken that route. He played techno impressively well. Ah, well, he's got a few years left to make good. Maybe he'll still be around when "neotrance" evolves to epic proportions.

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......suck slightly less then he used to suck....but still sucks a lot less than oakenfold, tiesto and pvd combined.

oh yes clearly they are all shocking dj's and producers

My favorite tune from his latest album was "I Love You"... as a DJ, his mixing and sets have been top class! But as a producer, his stuff seems to be deteriorating. But yeah, I have a lot more respect for him compared to Oakenfold/Tiesto.

ferry corsten is a successful electronic producer and dj...

standing novation from me

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Originally posted by zoric I've almost never heard anything bad about him.

Scratch the word "almost", cause i really NEVER have heard anything bad about 'em

My roommate along with a few local TA friends saw him tear it up at a local spot a couple months back. My underage status kept me from going but I've heard he rarely disappoints behind the decks.

Production-wise, he's so-so at best. Back in the day I loved his "Right of Way" album but now its far less appealing, likely due to my own general change in taste. His more recent releases like "Fire", sporting the diva vocals just doesn't do it for me, like anything with diva vocals in it. What I've heard of his other productions released around the same time as fire, and his most recent releases as well, aren't anything to write home about in my opinion.

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Originally posted by Ariyas standing novation

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