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Posted by isoterra on Dec-19-2006 10:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Sykonee
On the trance side, the biggest pushes appeared in prog psy and neo-trance, both of which seem to be reproducing trance's initial appeal (hypnotic stylee).


i don't believe i'm familiar with this term... but i'm intrigued? especially since i've been liking alot of prog-psy (admittedly more on the prog side than the psy side) this year

as for uplifting trance... there's been FAR too much of the 'discover sound' dominating just about every set i've heard this year resulting in alot of it sounding samey. hopefully it won't be too long before discover's bubble bursts & everyone gets sick of them


Posted by MichaelBoogerd! on Dec-19-2006 11:00:

quote:
Originally posted by isoterra
i don't believe i'm familiar with this term... but i'm intrigued? especially since i've been liking alot of prog-psy (admittedly more on the prog side than the psy side) this year

as for uplifting trance... there's been FAR too much of the 'discover sound' dominating just about every set i've heard this year resulting in alot of it sounding samey. hopefully it won't be too long before discover's bubble bursts & everyone gets sick of them


I think there is a certain amount of hype involved in neo-trance, its yet another subgenre of a subgenre

But in my opinion it is just a word to describe that some older trance sounds are starting to appear in other genres - be that minimal, electro or tech house.

I know beatport is not a good source of 'genre' filing, but they added Abyss - Mind Games as tech-house. This is as good example of neo-trance that i can think of.

Hearing those kind of tracks out at a party (when you were not expecting them to appear) are a far greater buzz for me this year, than going to an advertised trance night and partying to as you say Discover trance.


Posted by Cobalt on Dec-19-2006 11:08:

quote:
Originally posted by isoterra
i don't believe i'm familiar with this term... but i'm intrigued? especially since i've been liking alot of prog-psy (admittedly more on the prog side than the psy side) this year

as for uplifting trance... there's been FAR too much of the 'discover sound' dominating just about every set i've heard this year resulting in alot of it sounding samey. hopefully it won't be too long before discover's bubble bursts & everyone gets sick of them


Listen to Sven Vath's Mysteryland set from this August. That will give you a good sense of how the word is being applied.

Some artists in on the act are:

Mathew Jonson
Gabriel Ananda
Gregor Tresher
Deetron
Tom Pooks
Extrawelt

Some labels where so-called "neotrance" has recently appeared:

Kompakt Extra
Datapunk
Cocoon
Great Stuff Recordings
Wagon Repair
Treibstoff

Some examples are:

Tom Pooks - Pablo Assan's
Gregor Tresher - The Now People
Deetron - Isotope
Tigerskin - Neontrance
Gabriel Ananda & Cio D'or - Lauschgoldengel
Extrawelt - Titelheld

Mathew Jonson - Marionette came a bit before the neotrance "wave", as did Hawtin's DE9 stuff (such as The Tunnel), but both could also be included as examples.

Great stuff, this. It made my year.


Posted by Arraias on Dec-19-2006 11:15:

quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n
I certainly think 2006 has been a better year for trance than 2004/2005.


+ 1


Posted by isoterra on Dec-19-2006 12:41:

cheers for the replies rvk/cobalt..

i've just been checking out alot of the aforementioned artists via samples on beatport. while alot of it seems musically quite fresh, i just can't get into the whole 'soft kick' thing.. i'd have to re-edit most of those tracks with stronger kickdrums if i wanted to make use of them. the style kinda reminds me of �me - rej.. i remember hearing a dj play a re-edited version of that a couple of months back; all it did was layer a stronger, more danceable kick on top but it worked nicely


gabriel ananda - tai nasha no karosha.. this i quite liked.. although it's a bit older. has more drive to it


Posted by MichaelBoogerd! on Dec-19-2006 13:16:

quote:
Originally posted by isoterra
cheers for the replies rvk/cobalt..

i've just been checking out alot of the aforementioned artists via samples on beatport. while alot of it seems musically quite fresh, i just can't get into the whole 'soft kick' thing.. i'd have to re-edit most of those tracks with stronger kickdrums if i wanted to make use of them. the style kinda reminds me of �me - rej.. i remember hearing a dj play a re-edited version of that a couple of months back; all it did was layer a stronger, more danceable kick on top but it worked nicely


gabriel ananda - tai nasha no karosha.. this i quite liked.. although it's a bit older. has more drive to it


Ame - Rej (Pastaboys Club Mix) is the one that drives along in my sets

The drive comes when you pitch up these tracks to a trance-serviceable 138 - 140.. although maybe Cobalt will not agree there, I think that they then sound very 1995-96 techno/trance hybrid genre style rather than glitchy


Posted by mrmonkey on Dec-19-2006 14:08:

I enjoyed a lot of the trance that was around this year and there was plenty to keep me happy. However the amount of Tyas style records that were around didn't really help the genre. Also the type of style championed by Giovanni Otiovanni seemed to be really popular however I really dislike this type of stuff. 'Linking People' was a lot of peoples favourite tune at the time but I absolutely hate it!!

Some of my favourite producers this year were lange vs gareth emery, david west, above and beyond, menno de jong and various others and there was some awesome stuff out! However there seemed to be a slight shift away from the uplifting style of trance that I adore, tunes such as 8 Wonders - Sex on the Beach were hard to come by but there was still a lot of other quality stuff, but the floaty trance that I adore was definately lacking a bit!

While the productions were generally good I was quite diasppointed with the quality of the DJs. A lot of trance jocks seem to be playing similar sets, and seemed to choose tunes that weren't really my favourites. This was not always the case and I heard some fantastic DJ sets from Above and Beyond, M.I.K.E., Matt Hardwick, Ben Gold, DJ Yahel, Johan Gielen and various others. However there have been other DJs who have been far more disappointing and I seem to be hard pressed to find the uplifting euphoric sets that I once thrived on!! Here's to next year and hopefully more floaty trance!! For a start that 8 Wonders track is being released in Jan!

Oh, and also on another note, I started DJing in the summer and will hopefully have my first mix up on the board within the next week!


Posted by Col on Dec-19-2006 14:30:

I started going to house, breaks and minimal parties this year and I've enjoyed them a lot.
Then I went to see Tiesto in November and it made me realise how much I still love trance.

So from what I've heard this year, it's been a good one across the board.


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Dec-19-2006 15:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Sykonee
2006 was the year the word electro lost all meaning.


On the trance side, the biggest pushes appeared in prog psy and neo-trance, both of which seem to be reproducing trance's initial appeal (hypnotic stylee). Heck, even some epic trance producers went for a simpler sound this year, although their arrangements are still predicitble as fuck. We're probably on the verge of a retro trance emergence. I suspect this will be the hot sound of 2007, on all fronts. (prays for the return of acid along with it)


I agree, the cycle is coming around again and I think we will see the early retro trance sound come back and with a new twist hopefully. Hell, it already came around for house, now it should progressively shift to early trance.


Posted by SPANIARD on Dec-19-2006 16:50:

Since the legal clubbing age in Toronto is 19 and turning 19 in 2006, I found myself learning more than anything. I think the one thing it confirmed for me (I had always thought this, but never really had physical proof to insure my brain I wasn't crazy) that big names really do not guarentee a good party, good music does. In a year I saw Deep Dish, Armin, Oakie, Kleinenberg etc, I can say that non of these supposed legeneds of the decks brought anything quite that exciting to my ears. I have learned that I am not a natural clubber this year, I can't just go out to see a DJ for the sake of it, I must need some encouragement. The city I live in is full of misleading fake little boys with headphones that are nothing more than followers and anyone who has eyes and isn't afraid to offend anyone can see it. Respect to the people here that are the exception to that rule and want to be unique, this goes for DJ's globally.

From the music side, it was like any other: there was really bad, commercial stuff that everyone hated on and made assumptions about entire genres based on 2 or 3 tracks and there was lots of good stuff by people who no one has ever heard of. Pretty much like every other year.


Posted by D-res on Dec-19-2006 17:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Col
Then I went to see Tiesto in November and it made me realise how much I still love trance.


Funny. I saw him spin in September and, if anything, it pushed me further from the genre than I've ever been, although to be honest, he did a lot of genre hopping (and key hopping at that ) that night. I respect your opinion, and I'm sure he has the occasional night where he doesn't act and mix like a tool, but my opinion of him as a DJ bombed severely that night. The moment he stepped on the decks, he turned up the gains on the decks enough to deafen, greatly distorting the sound. Luckily someone controlling the master sound in the back turned it down, but by the time the set was half over, we'd heard enough shoddy, careless mixing to leave. As my friends and I started walking the seemingly umpteen million miles to the car, we could clearly hear the music (outdoor show) and that wash up blatantly trainwrecked almost every transition he attempted to pull off. The consistency of his mixing was staggering. Nearly every transition turned into galloping, overlapping beats, which he didn't even bother correcting. For someone of his 'caliber,' especially having sported the #1 spot as long as he did, we were thoroughly disappointed in every facet of his set. The days of mind blowing, flawless, late 90s trance sets are long gone...

At least the other acts of the night were solid.

/rant


Posted by DOOMBOT on Dec-19-2006 17:28:

quote:
Originally posted by D-res
The days of mind blowing, flawless, late 90s trance sets are long gone...

From him or every dj in the world?


Posted by Col on Dec-19-2006 17:44:

His mixing when I saw him at Gods was pretty good...but then again, I'm normally too fucked to notice if anything goes wrong.

Personally, I didn't want a "flawless late 90s trance set"; I'd been listening to some of his sets from 2002 where he dabbled within the boundaries of techno and was hoping for something similar. His set went pretty much exactly in that direction so I was happy. Part of my revived love for trance was thanks to that recent Super8 track that he played - it was just a big supersaw fest of course, but the timing of it and everything just really hit the spot, I went absolutely mental.

Anyway yeah, this isn't about Tiesto...there are enough threads where we can continue this sort of discussion.


Posted by KilldaDJ on Dec-19-2006 17:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
The whole EDM "scene" seems very distant to me now. I was just sitting there wondering what the hell was going on - I couldn't recognize any of the tunes and they all just sounded dull and samey.

As a result, I've mostly been listening to old school rock (Beatles)


yeah thats what i wanted to say, but someone wrote it for me so i just quoted what was relevant in my reply.

a couple of tracks caught my attention this year but its literally only a select few. maybe trance has had its day? i mean all the classic melodys and compositions have pretty much been robbed in the past couple of years, theres just not much to churn out anymore, without sounding the same anyway, then theres the remakes *cough*sean tyas*cough*

oh and beatles ftw


Posted by D-res on Dec-19-2006 17:57:

quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
From him or every dj in the world?


Especially him. Technically, I think anybody with a solid collection of classic old school trance tunes, decent understanding of harmonics, a pair of decks and the ability to beat match and transition well consistently could release a set they recorded in their bedroom, which, by all standards, if had been done by a big name DJ, could be ranked among the decided classics. All they were were good tracks, arranged well, with rock solid mixing and programming.

Theoretically speaking, it could still be done. Unfortunately for the trance heads of today, the music has changed, the crucial DJs of that era have moved on to new genres and new projects, and while some can still put on a hell of a show, not one consistently hammers out the same type of mixes that most people can agree were the defining trance sets of the last decade, albeit, changes in genre, technology and musical tastes can be attributed to that too. It's by no means all the fault of the DJ. It was bound to happen sooner or later, just like it will again and again and again.




...and again.


Posted by DOOMBOT on Dec-19-2006 18:11:

quote:
Originally posted by D-res
Especially him. Technically, I think anybody with a solid collection of classic old school trance tunes, decent understanding of harmonics, a pair of decks and the ability to beat match and transition well consistently could release a set they recorded in their bedroom, which, by all standards, if had been done by a big name DJ, could be ranked among the decided classics. All they were were good tracks, arranged well, with rock solid mixing and programming.

Theoretically speaking, it could still be done. Unfortunately for the trance heads of today, the music has changed, the crucial DJs of that era have moved on to new genres and new projects, and while some can still put on a hell of a show, not one consistently hammers out the same type of mixes that most people can agree were the defining trance sets of the last decade, albeit, changes in genre, technology and musical tastes can be attributed to that too. It's by no means all the fault of the DJ. It was bound to happen sooner or later, just like it will again and again and again.




...and again.

Thank God for that!


Posted by Cobalt on Dec-19-2006 19:43:

quote:
Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd!
The drive comes when you pitch up these tracks to a trance-serviceable 138 - 140.. although maybe Cobalt will not agree there, I think that they then sound very 1995-96 techno/trance hybrid genre style rather than glitchy

No, I totally agree here. That's part of why I like the stuff; it's versatile over a wide BPM range, and only sounds better the faster you get.


Posted by MichaelBoogerd! on Dec-19-2006 19:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
No, I totally agree here. That's part of why I like the stuff; it's versatile over a wide BPM range, and only sounds better the faster you get.


Wicked! i'm glad you agree, cos i was thinking i might've received a flame or two for saying that. Its nice to know someone is on the same page of the textbook.


Posted by Clovis on Dec-19-2006 20:09:

In 2006 DJing changed the way I approach EDM completely.


Posted by Cobalt on Dec-19-2006 20:11:

quote:
Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd!
Wicked! i'm glad you agree, cos i was thinking i might've received a flame or two for saying that. Its nice to know someone is on the same page of the textbook.

I've never really been able to slow my tempo down, even though every genre has been slowing since 2000. During the 2002-04 Great Prog Slowdown I would regularly play progressive at +6, and sometimes stopped from going any faster only because it would distort the track.

Some "neotrance" approaches the 130 BPM range, and actually doesn't require as much pushing as sleepy progressive did. It's basically slow trance with new instrumentation. Push the pitch and it blends very well with early-90s German stuff, or even progressive trance.

Alternatively, a lot of it can be played on its own range and blended with house. It's an incredibly flexible and fun sound.


Posted by DOOMBOT on Dec-19-2006 20:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
In 2006 DJing changed the way I approach EDM completely.

Couldn't have said it better myself.


Posted by Sykonee on Dec-19-2006 20:38:

Hehe. Cobalt and Boogard's exchange shows just why neo-trance will get more popular in trance circles. The sheer versatility available. Certainly more so than the epic trance brigade has to work with (beat match, wait for song to play out, do a Jesus pose during breakdwon, beat match next song...)


Posted by Allied Nations on Dec-19-2006 21:04:

Reinhard Voigt and Michael Mayer - Trasparenza



AWESOME neotrance! Speed this up 10% and it's still pwnage as well.


Posted by MichaelBoogerd! on Dec-19-2006 21:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Sykonee
Hehe. Cobalt and Boogard's exchange shows just why neo-trance will get more popular in trance circles. The sheer versatility available. Certainly more so than the epic trance brigade has to work with (beat match, wait for song to play out, do a Jesus pose during breakdwon, beat match next song...)


May exactly that idea of DJing die out NOW... before 2007 arrives *prays*

Here is an example of how a DJ should act (although maybe not quite so f*cked out of their minds)

vathisms


Vath has really come back onto form this year.


Posted by AY STAR on Dec-19-2006 21:19:

i think 2006 was a pretty good year for not only trance but techno and house etc
it was better then 2005 imo
in 2006 there have been alot more producers pushin the sound and combining more elements of different generes into trance
makeing it more playable for other djs
example sander van doorn has been makeing tracks that djs from carl cox to danny tenaglia to tiesto have been playin
and for straight up trance its been a good year also not that many cheesey vocals
alot of good stuff commin from overseas thats been gettin more support here in america
and for me 2006 like alot of you said i discovered more music outside of trance i opened my mind a lil bit and began to see other djs of diff generes
i hope 2007 is just as good


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