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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike You say this because you've clearly only heard 1 or 2 of Delerium's tracks.

thats a terrible assumption. alot of people i know think its their best track even after having heard countless delerium songs..

and to say this track is "cheesy" is fucking harsh, if thats cheesy i think about 95% of trance that incorporate vocals must be cheesy and delerium do vocals better than almost every other producer imo even if the tracks are remixed. it may sound shit to u but u should be open minded enough to c why alot of people like it (cos it didnt seem like it from that other post but i could have misinterpreted u).

for the record i dont think its their best track but definitely one of the good ones. airscape remix ftw

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Originally posted by the gamemaster if thats cheesy i think about 95% of trance that incorporate vocals must be cheesy

Even though your point is the opposite, i think it's a fair estiamtion that 95 % of vocal trance is cheese.

Ferry Corsten live @ Energy Z�rich

funkagenda's remix is quite nice for a house remix to be played in a club

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Originally posted by the gamemaster if thats cheesy i think about 95% of trance that incorporate vocals must be cheesy

Sounds about right.

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Originally posted by the gamemaster thats a terrible assumption. alot of people i know think its their best track even after having heard countless delerium songs..

There's two kind of Delerium fans:

1. The old school ones. They were into their Front Line Assembly stuff as well as the darker industrial ambient overtones of the early Delerium albums. However, many started to get turned off of Delerium when the duo began incorporating more 'ethno-pop' elements into their songs and, while Karma did retain some of those old dark overtones, the newer elements (of which Silence contained a fair deal of) were clearly beginning to overtake. Most gave up on them after Karma.

2. The new school ones. These folks discovered Delerium when the 'ethno-pop' style of songs began getting compilation duty and remixed by epic trance DJs. This turned out to be a much more profitable crowd (a large portion of which are New Agey middle-class moms), so Delerium began catering to them heavily, and they've gone that route ever since. Most of them got into Delerium after Karma. Oh, and think Silence is one of their best tracks.


(firmly entrenched in Group 1)

If you guys dont like Tiestos remix of this track, what the hell are you doing here then?

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Originally posted by TuoppI If you guys dont like Tiestos remix of this track, what the hell are you doing here then?

Oh for fuck's sake. You STUPID fucking idiot.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike Oh for fuck's sake. You STUPID fucking idiot.

for the sake of fuck, indeed.

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Originally posted by TuoppI If you guys dont like Tiestos remix of this track, what the hell are you doing here then?

This may come as a shocking revelation to you, but there is 99.95% more to trance than Tiesto.

I recently heard tiesto's mix (again) and its sad how ruined this track is with those cheese vocals.. The break is just aweful

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Originally posted by Sykonee There's two kind of Delerium fans: 1. The old school ones. They were into their Front Line Assembly stuff as well as the darker industrial ambient overtones of the early Delerium albums. However, many started to get turned off of Delerium when the duo began incorporating more 'ethno-pop' elements into their songs and, while Karma did retain some of those old dark overtones, the newer elements (of which Silence contained a fair deal of) were clearly beginning to overtake. Most gave up on them after Karma. 2. The new school ones. These folks discovered Delerium when the 'ethno-pop' style of songs began getting compilation duty and remixed by epic trance DJs. This turned out to be a much more profitable crowd (a large portion of which are New Agey middle-class moms), so Delerium began catering to them heavily, and they've gone that route ever since. Most of them got into Delerium after Karma. Oh, and think Silence is one of their best tracks. (firmly entrenched in Group 1)

yea im aware of that but im talking about remixed tracks sorry. as an original production i dont think silence comes close to being their best track. and my point was that even if they are the latter type of fan they can still have heard alot of delerium tracks which is why mikey mike's comment was stupid

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike Sounds about right.

haha maybe but sarah mclachlans (sp?) voice in silence makes up for any cheesiness imo, i guess its obviously just a matter of taste

but compared to alot of the vocal crap there is in the genre, this is hardly cheesy at all. i just think you've got a bit of a phobia, not all vocals have to have masterful lyrics...

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike Sounds about right.

I think you're cheesy.

first time i heard it live was in 2002 at Exit, NYC on my 20th birthday...most memorable set from Tiesto for me. Silence was his closing song at 6am and I walked out as it was fading out with the biggest smile ever.

have heard it multiple times since, but never was able to top that.

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