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Originally posted by exstasie Is Telus going to be having any promos during this joyous occasion? This is there chance to gain some loyal customers, so they should be offering some great promos...if they were smart. Shop around guys! I'm sure there will be some great promos and packages to be had.

you see as per the WNP training i had, we dont scrounge for every last customer, unlike rogers and fido and bell on 20-35$ plans a month, we know we have a good coverage and good price and all our customers are willing to pay the price!

we saw the churn rate results as far as WNP goes, rogers 3-4% has the highest cancellation risks , then comes bell at 2% and lastly telus with a mere 1%

We know customers who are loyal and we already managed to keep them.

We dont need promos to bring customers into telus but yes we always have new activations promos going on.

Who's going to be selling the iPhone? I heard someone say that Rogers was going to be selling them in the summer or something

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Originally posted by TrickDaddE Buddy I dont need to read it carefully! The point is you claim it's a free phone for being a loyal customer i.e every 3 years, but is its not free if you got to commit for another 2-3 year term! Furthermore the $400 phone I can buy un-locked GSM for $200-$250.

Yes if you use the service then why not commit? your not paying anything extra??

GSM is great but it also have its pros and cons. Unlocking the phone doesnt guarentee you to use it virtually any part of the globe. but i see your point.

guys honestly - if you buy phones through providers, at least get it cheaper with a contract, please don't waste that ridiculous amount of money on phones which are considered old elsewhere

on related note, Mum's new baby stealing this whenever i get a chance!

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew guys honestly - if you buy phones through providers, at least get it cheaper with a contract, please don't waste that ridiculous amount of money on phones which are considered old elsewhere

Thats why you don't get a phone w/ your contract and import a phone from Asia...

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Originally posted by exstasie Thats why you don't get a phone w/ your contract and import a phone from Asia...

ditto
or Russia
or Ukraine

Korea is the best for all brand new electronics

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew ditto or Russia or Ukraine Korea is the best for all brand new electronics

I think Korea's the best for everything...

Typical of MSNBC to ignore one of the most important reasons for not having the best cell phone networks: our landlines don't suck. In Europe they have to use their cell phones for this stuff.

Not the only reason, sure - there's definitely a bit of an "if it ain't broke don't fix it" attitude (which is sad in Canada, because here, it done broke). It's a chicken-and-egg problem, though. Here, people trust their land lines and don't trust cell phone carriers. Why then should a carrier try to improve their network quality when people don't trust them anyway? And as a consumer, why would you ever trust a cellular carrier knowing that this is how they think?

It was easy to get people to switch in Europe because they never trusted the land lines in the first place. North America, not so simple.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Typical of MSNBC to ignore one of the most important reasons for not having the best cell phone networks: our landlines don't suck. In Europe they have to use their cell phones for this stuff. Not the only reason, sure - there's definitely a bit of an "if it ain't broke don't fix it" attitude (which is sad in Canada, because here, it done broke). It's a chicken-and-egg problem, though. Here, people trust their land lines and don't trust cell phone carriers. Why then should a carrier try to improve their network quality when people don't trust them anyway? And as a consumer, why would you ever trust a cellular carrier knowing that this is how they think? It was easy to get people to switch in Europe because they never trusted the land lines in the first place. North America, not so simple.

interesting insight. wasnt aware.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Typical of MSNBC to ignore one of the most important reasons for not having the best cell phone networks: our landlines don't suck. In Europe they have to use their cell phones for this stuff. Not the only reason, sure - there's definitely a bit of an "if it ain't broke don't fix it" attitude (which is sad in Canada, because here, it done broke). It's a chicken-and-egg problem, though. Here, people trust their land lines and don't trust cell phone carriers. Why then should a carrier try to improve their network quality when people don't trust them anyway? And as a consumer, why would you ever trust a cellular carrier knowing that this is how they think? It was easy to get people to switch in Europe because they never trusted the land lines in the first place. North America, not so simple.

What do you mean by *trust* a landline/cellphone provider?

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur What do you mean by *trust* a landline/cellphone provider?

Trust them to carry the call! As opposed to the call not going through, being dropped, being laggy, having poor reception, getting crossed with another call, or any of the other potential problems that almost never happen in this part of the world.

Oh, I wanted to respond to this as well:

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew guys honestly - if you buy phones through providers, at least get it cheaper with a contract

Tell me you aren't seriously recommending that people sign long-term contracts? Have you actually taken the time to read one?

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Originally posted by TrickDaddE Buddy I dont need to read it carefully! The point is you claim it's a free phone for being a loyal customer i.e every 3 years, but is its not free if you got to commit for another 2-3 year term! Furthermore the $400 phone I can buy un-locked GSM for $200-$250.

Serious. I've been with Bell since I was 17, hell 10 years and I committ to a 2 year plan (hopefully not 3 year from what I remmeber). I say to them I wanted a new phone for FREE. I was not notified of this when I was switching plans (obviously b/c they want me to fork over cash for a new one) so when I go back and call them on this they say if I get a new one that I'd have to start over with a plan at the beginning. THat there is no way for it to be retroactive. PURE BS. Fuck that. I'm switching companies, when portability kicks in it will FORCE these carriers to do something to improve their service because people will choose who the hell they want as a proper carrier. I can't wait for it soon enough.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Trust them to carry the call! As opposed to the call not going through, being dropped, being laggy, having poor reception, getting crossed with another call, or any of the other potential problems that almost never happen in this part of the world. Oh, I wanted to respond to this as well: Tell me you aren't seriously recommending that people sign long-term contracts? Have you actually taken the time to read one?

12-24month ones aren't too bad, and yes I've read 2 of my roomie's contacts

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Originally posted by Endlesswave Serious. I've been with Bell since I was 17, hell 10 years and I committ to a 2 year plan (hopefully not 3 year from what I remmeber). I say to them I wanted a new phone for FREE. I was not notified of this when I was switching plans (obviously b/c they want me to fork over cash for a new one) so when I go back and call them on this they say if I get a new one that I'd have to start over with a plan at the beginning. THat there is no way for it to be retroactive. PURE BS. Fuck that. I'm switching companies, when portability kicks in it will FORCE these carriers to do something to improve their service because people will choose who the hell they want as a proper carrier. I can't wait for it soon enough.

That's how they screw you over!

I honestly hope that once this competitive act goes through that it'll force these companies to improve their customer service and everything else...

It will. I can't wait. Wooooooooooooooooohah.

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Originally posted by Endlesswave Fine, Rogers it is then.

lol it's the same network dude.. unless u live in the boonies, which in ur case u almost do

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew guys honestly - if you buy phones through providers, at least get it cheaper with a contract, please don't waste that ridiculous amount of money on phones which are considered old elsewhere on related note, Mum's new baby stealing this whenever i get a chance!

i hav this fone and it's great .. just make sure u pick up a spare battery (ya know.. for the win)

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Originally posted by DigiNut Typical of MSNBC to ignore one of the most important reasons for not having the best cell phone networks: our landlines don't suck. In Europe they have to use their cell phones for this stuff. Not the only reason, sure - there's definitely a bit of an "if it ain't broke don't fix it" attitude (which is sad in Canada, because here, it done broke). It's a chicken-and-egg problem, though. Here, people trust their land lines and don't trust cell phone carriers. Why then should a carrier try to improve their network quality when people don't trust them anyway? And as a consumer, why would you ever trust a cellular carrier knowing that this is how they think? It was easy to get people to switch in Europe because they never trusted the land lines in the first place. North America, not so simple.

it's true .. placing some landline calls in Europe is actually more expensive than a mobile one.. nor does a public fone call cost a quarter, it's crazy how they place those sex hotline ads in the red booths in the UK.. i musta dropped like 50 quid that nite

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur Of course Samsung still makes the most kick-ass sliders:

OMG I hope Cale doesn't see this thread. He wouldn't shut up for MONTHS about how awesome his new Samsung slider phone was.

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Originally posted by Zeidoo Telus just started selling porn for cell phones a little while ago, when it's been done for years everywhere else in NA.

Do they honestly do that?! haha

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Originally posted by Misanthrope maybe we should on fucking better cell phone providers, better cell phone towers THEN WE CAN START TALKING ABOUT PHONES mind fucking boggling

Wow...didn't think I'd ever say this. But I agree with you Mona. 100%

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew 12-24month ones aren't too bad, and yes I've read 2 of my roomie's contacts

i got lucky when i signed up with fido, they still had 2 year contracts. a few months after, they rolled out their 3 year contracts with phones.

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* Do they honestly do that?! haha

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On a personal level

I dont see what the reason why you would want to leave your carrier, i never have needed to leave i have had service with all 3 telus rogers and fido, i have moved only because i needed to talk long distance to my family who all had rogers and fido phones.

Other than that i dont expect it would really do anything until and unless your really stubborn and just want to make a point and please dont give me that "OH GSM WORKS ALL AROUND THE WORLD" because chances are people who tell me that only travel once a year out of canada or less lol. sorry i had to bring that point out.

if you do move and are on contracts good luck because you would still paying termination charges from the prior carrier

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Originally posted by monishb On a personal level I dont see what the reason why you would want to leave your carrier, i never have needed to leave i have had service with all 3 telus rogers and fido, i have moved only because i needed to talk long distance to my family who all had rogers and fido phones. Other than that i dont expect it would really do anything until and unless your really stubborn and just want to make a point and please dont give me that "OH GSM WORKS ALL AROUND THE WORLD" because chances are people who tell me that only travel once a year out of canada or less lol. sorry i had to bring that point out. if you do move and are on contracts good luck because you would still paying termination charges from the prior carrier

you haven't been with Bell so you can't say anything haha...

Everything else > Bell...hell, even Virgin is probably better then Bell

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Originally posted by monishb Yes if you use the service then why not commit? your not paying anything extra?? GSM is great but it also have its pros and cons. Unlocking the phone doesnt guarentee you to use it virtually any part of the globe. but i see your point.

I guess Bud! And dont get me wrong. I'm not advocating Roger's either. They have thier Pro & Cons also! I guess it's the same in any such competetive business!

Cheers

p.s. If Telus Capped thier cancellation fee's at $200 like Roger's I'd stay, grab me that MOTO-Q for $150 on a 3 year and stick around a while.

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Originally posted by TrickDaddE I guess Bud! And dont get me wrong. I'm not advocating Roger's either. They have thier Pro & Cons also! I guess it's the same in any such competetive business! Cheers p.s. If Telus Capped thier cancellation fee's at $200 like Roger's I'd stay, grab me that MOTO-Q for $150 on a 3 year and stick around a while.

that can be fixed if you had a telus account!

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