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actually thats an interesting point, i had a go at throwing some electro house in with electro style trance and it sounds kinda cool

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Originally posted by Michael May No disrespect, but this is Tranceaddict.com. I think it would get really confusing with alot of other genres. I personally would not do it if it were house. I do not own any house music, and I would not waste my time searching and purchasing it, let alone mixing it. This is j/m/o and I don't mean any disrespect to anyone else.

A: people on here listen to tons of other genres.
B: There are also people who won't do it if it's trance, don't own any trance music, and would not waste their time searching for and purchasing it, let alone mixing it.


Keep the votes coming. Whichever one gets the most interest will be the first one--not the only (if all goes well). So, if this one's house, the next one might be trance. If this one's trance, the next one might be techno, etc.

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Originally posted by inconspicuous A: people on here listen to tons of other genres. B: There are also people who won't do it if it's trance, don't own any trance music, and would not waste their time searching for and purchasing it, let alone mixing it. Keep the votes coming. Whichever one gets the most interest will be the first one--not the only (if all goes well). So, if this one's house, the next one might be trance. If this one's trance, the next one might be techno, etc.

I understand your point. I am into a few different genres, but the main genre I play is trance. Maybe having 3 different genres and letting the people decide on what genre they want to play is not a bad idea. Like he said, KEEP THE VOTES COMING.

Whos here in Miami?? I'm down here for the WMC. Maybe we could meet up and have a dance off??? J/K Much love to all styles of music!!!!

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Originally posted by Michael May I understand your point. I am into a few different genres, but the main genre I play is trance. Maybe having 3 different genres and letting the people decide on what genre they want to play is not a bad idea. Like he said, KEEP THE VOTES COMING.

I'm going to drive this point one more time

I see that this contest is about showing off your skills as a DJ, not what tracks you'd like to hear. I'm taking as a challenge that I may not be playing a genre that I don't like (or have no clue in) but to expand my skills as a DJ and just have fun with it.

If you don't like what got picked, well, maybe next contest might be a genre that you'd like.

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Originally posted by EvilTree I'm going to drive this point one more time I see that this contest is about showing off your skills as a DJ, not what tracks you'd like to hear. I'm taking as a challenge that I may not be playing a genre that I don't like (or have no clue in) but to expand my skills as a DJ and just have fun with it. If you don't like what got picked, well, maybe next contest might be a genre that you'd like.

Thats what i thought it was gonna b

also, 10 is only a benchmark... maybe we'll vote for 20 allowable tracks.... but that doesnt mean that you have to use all 20, as most likely, mixes will be limited to around the 30 minute mark.

so... even a vinyl user wont have to buy all the tracks (if they wanna do this), just the ones they'd wanna play.

and my vote still stands for trance or techno...

I also think this should be more about having fun.. experimenting with genres etc.. I usually.. always.. play more on the techy house side. But i have no problem participating if it would be trance or hardcorepsyambientjunglebreaks. In the process of making the track selection it would be good to select tracks that some peeps might already have and/or would not be too hard to find. If there are guys who wont participate just because it isn't trance or house, then maybe they should sit it out!

I cast my vote to
One about House
One about Trance
One about Techno
One about them all

It's all about the music
One love

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Originally posted by EvilTree I'm going to drive this point one more time I see that this contest is about showing off your skills as a DJ, not what tracks you'd like to hear. I'm taking as a challenge that I may not be playing a genre that I don't like (or have no clue in) but to expand my skills as a DJ and just have fun with it. If you don't like what got picked, well, maybe next contest might be a genre that you'd like.

Ace post. While I am pushing for House and Techno, I don't expect the tracks that are chosen in those categories to be anything I would usually spin. The whole point is to try something new, to push yourself and to learn new things here. That's what I like about this competition.

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Originally posted by lawrenceq Well guys and girls a lot of us have talked about trance, or house, why dont we start naming some songs that may be well known (to emphasize how each can interpret familiar tunes into our own mixes uniquely). Here are a few tracks I imagine a fair amount of you are familiar with in trance: 1. ronski speed - the space we are 2. andy moor - yearzero 3. saltwater - the legacy 4. gabriel and dresden - dangerous power 5. luminary - dark eyes 6. bryan kearney - exactly 7. Jose amnesia - louder 8. Sean Tyas - Lift 9. Cosmic gate - analogue feel 10. En mass - CQ

god I'd have to take double my xanax prescription to stomach that crap.

I vote for a trance and then an everything else column simply because if I post my mix in the house forum people will say it is too techno, but if I post my mix in the techno forum people will say it isn't techno.

I'd much rather be a judge.

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Originally posted by Zild I vote for a trance and then an everything else column simply because if I post my mix in the house forum people will say it is too techno, but if I post my mix in the techno forum people will say it isn't techno.

That's probably gonna happen to me too.. But what the hey..

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Originally posted by Zild god I'd have to take double my xanax prescription to stomach that crap.

That happens to me all the time around here.. But what the hey..

PS. Looking at those eyes you need at least 3mg's STAT

Well buddy if you can't stomach that crap then quit yacking on and post some tracks so we can get an idea of what you are into, and then everyone else can do the same. Eventually we can decide on a particular genre or mix of genres for the first set, and then come to a happy medium for a selection of tracks.

Id much rather have you in on the comp then just judging, cos the more the merrier.

If were looking for judges id be down for that, im only just getting tables now so i dont think id make a set worth anyones time :P but i spend 8hours a day at work listening to sets, so im sure i could find the time to judge em even if its a few a day.

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Originally posted by Import If were looking for judges id be down for that, im only just getting tables now so i dont think id make a set worth anyones time :P but i spend 8hours a day at work listening to sets, so im sure i could find the time to judge em even if its a few a day.

Cool! Thanks for offering your time!

Ok. We are starting to roll.

So far 2 judges: Zild and Import.
We need at least one more. (though more people can jump in as judges before the contest starts) The judges are going to have to keep in touch with each other

I suggest the judges start thinking about what genre to pick, then tracks. Keep in mind that if the tracks are too different from each other, it'll be hard to form a flow. For example, picking minimal techhouse and funky diva house just ain't going to work. So try to stick within a particular subgenre, or subgenres that are similar.

All tunes must be easy to purchase online (Beatport, djdownload, etc)
Or if you have a particular tune that you'd think awesome to play but isn't available, well... Umm... I'm not going to say anything more about that

I think we're in consensus that mixes are max 30 mins (give or take) which should be around 4-7 tracks (depends on track length)

Suggested Guideline for Judging (feel free to use, modify, come up with own)
1. Transition (20 pts)
-is there any trainwrecks? Noticeable mistakes? How is the flow (or blending) of transition? I'd consider a good transition is that you didn't even notice that the next track has come in.

2. Tricks (10 pts)
-was there some cool tricks used? Did it fit well within the set? (Was it out of place and sounded bad?) How difficult were the tricks?

3. Track Selection & Programming(10 pts)
-was there a general flow of tracks during the set? Did the tracks fit in well with each other? (or out of place?)

4. Overall Impression (10pts)
-were you impressed with the set? The level of effort? A mix can be technically perfect, but may not 'wow' a listener

As well, do try to give critical feedback as just points don't tell much of a story and we can't improve if we don't get told what we did wrong.

For the timeline, I suggest one week from the day a 3rd judge has volunteered for genre and track selection by the judges, then another 2 weeks for any contestants to submit their mixes, then another 2 weeks for the judges to mark, then announce the winner.

For submission guideline, all contestants must list tracklist, as well as equipment used as that judges should take into account what the contestants did given the equipment used. So someone using cdj100 and a cheapass behringer w/ no built in effects should get more consideration than someone using the latest gear.

Also, are we going to accept Ableton (or other software used) mixes?
Personally I think it should be turntable and/or cdj used.

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Originally posted by EvilTree All tunes must be easy to purchase online (Beatport, djdownload, etc) Or if you have a particular tune that you'd think awesome to play but isn't available, well... Umm... I'm not going to say anything more about that

Hang on aren't we supposed to use tracks from "The List" & nothing else? I thought that was the whole idea?

yeh I think he's talking about the tracklist that the judges come up with for us to use, whatever they find must be purchaseable off beatport or whatever. either way that looks lie a fairly solid foundation for judging, Im happy with it, unless anyone has further suggestions??

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Originally posted by EvilTree I suggest the judges start thinking about what genre to pick, then tracks. Keep in mind that if the tracks are too different from each other, it'll be hard to form a flow. For example, picking minimal techhouse and funky diva house just ain't going to work. So try to stick within a particular subgenre, or subgenres that are similar.

Just some considerations for this, the genre is probably best chosen based on the votes cast, rather then the judges just picking house, techno or trance.

Id say for tracks personally id like to see alot of suggestions, people have varied tastes and what i might think is a few good house tracks may not work for anyone else, so perhaps pulling together a list and narrowing it down to 10 from there? I guess the first step is genre...

Im not gonna vote, my preference is genereally breaks and trance, but id enjoy listening to techno or house.

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Originally posted by Trance Android Hang on aren't we supposed to use tracks from "The List" & nothing else? I thought that was the whole idea?

I meant the tracks from 'the List' must be easy to purchase (or acquire)

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Originally posted by Import Just some considerations for this, the genre is probably best chosen based on the votes cast, rather then the judges just picking house, techno or trance. Id say for tracks personally id like to see alot of suggestions, people have varied tastes and what i might think is a few good house tracks may not work for anyone else, so perhaps pulling together a list and narrowing it down to 10 from there? I guess the first step is genre... Im not gonna vote, my preference is genereally breaks and trance, but id enjoy listening to techno or house.

Personally, I'd prefer the judges pick the 12 or so tracks, then tell the contestants to make a mix.

Remember. This is to challenge the DJs. Less choice the contestants have, more challenging it is.

I want something I haven't heard before so I'm on my toes to actually make a good mix.

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Originally posted by EvilTree Personally, I'd prefer the judges pick the 12 or so tracks, then tell the contestants to make a mix. Remember. This is to challenge the DJs. Less choice the contestants have, more challenging it is. I want something I haven't heard before so I'm on my toes to actually make a good mix.

Alright i like that standpoint, i'll need that week to find the right tracks then

woohoo, its happening!

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Originally posted by Import Alright i like that standpoint, i'll need that week to find the right tracks then

Just make sure the other judges are ok with your track selection as well.

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Originally posted by EvilTree Just make sure the other judges are ok with your track selection as well.

Oh of course, im not doing anything till we get another judge and pick a genre, then i assume we'll start sending tracks lists to each other.

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