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SvD >>>>> Sean Tyas

no offence to sean, but it seems (even far before this question was thought of), Sander already had this 'status'. and tyas' productions ('remixes') lately only seem to have a non-positive effect here on who-ever critizes his productions. it seems that, after having some nice releases, sean is going downhill atm (according to what ive read here with respect to people's opinions bout him)

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Originally posted by Clovis Tyas wins hands down. I know you really have much disdain for SVD for some reason, but hes leagues ahead of Tyas, he has demonstrated the ability to produce tracks at different bpms and not use the same kick in every single one. SVD may not be your cup of tea, but he has some skills and he has (at least imo) made some pretty good tracks in the past, so I think lumping him in with Tyas is abit unfair.

I'll agree that Tyas is the clear winner, but the ability to produce at different BPM's and not using the same kick aren't really qualifications for solid production, and I assure you that my disdain for Sander isn't without reason. SvD has never once produced a track that was remotely memorable for me, with the clear exception being "Grasshopper," because no one could never possibly forget how absolutely horrid that tune is. Furthermore, his DJ sets are every bit as incoherent as Tyas', they really seem utterly random and without any sort of flow.

He really doesn't even reach "mediocre" status with me. Personal preference, I guess - but I honestly don't see this amazing "talent" so many people seem to think he has.

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Originally posted by RJT Furthermore, his DJ sets are every bit as incoherent as Tyas', they really seem utterly random and without any sort of flow.

tyas's are coherent alright, considering he plays the EXACT SAME STYLE from start to finish without variation.. i'll admit svd's may not be completely consistent but they're still far less predictable and will typically contain a mishmash of different styles that has (at the least) a rough sense of build

not going there with the productions.. since this topic is referring to them as djs

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I like how majority of the posts are mentioning productions when the OP asked for your opinion on who will be the next big DJ (hell, even the OP mentioned producing).

This makes me even more unsurprised when DJ Mag's top 100 comes out and artists who have completely shit mixing skills are in the top 50 because of their productions.

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Originally posted by RJT If these guys are competing for anything it's "Who's pandering to the lowest common denominator more thoroughly?" In my eyes, that's a race that's still just too close to call.

Fucking hell.

I had never heard a SvD set or production, well besides his remix of Direct Dizko and saw him live a few weeks back - spun an absolute killer set and in my opinion he does have very creative mixing.

Never heard a set by tyas I don't think..

By the sounds of most people here, you're judging them on their productions (with the exception of a few) or are basing SVD on his internet mix. Has any of you actually seen them live?? You cant compare the two as they have both very differnt styles - and in each respec, are awesome at what they do. Tyas with the more uplifting, fast paced trance gets the whole club going. Sander with his more deep electro sounds keeps the hardcore trancers going to a new level (my mate had to sit down when Sander came on at crasher boxing day - couldn't handle him)!

As for who's going to be better this year, I think Sander has been round for a while, and while he continuess to get better I think Top100 Djs like fresh new faces, which is why I think Tyas is gonna make it big this year.

In my eyes, there's too many to mention. As long as there is a lot of Djs giving me awesome nights, I dont care who's top.

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Originally posted by DJ Patski I had never heard a SvD set or production, well besides his remix of Direct Dizko and saw him live a few weeks back - spun an absolute killer set and in my opinion he does have very creative mixing.

same, Sander is an absolute hoot live.

Don't really like too many of his productions though, none of them really grab me.

Tyas I haven't seen live, he's done some good production work but it is a little same-old-same-old. As a dj I've only heard a promo set but it was alright, nothing which really stood out from the crowd though

These threads make me lol.

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Originally posted by josh rising sandler is my favorite alias of his by far. everything from 'chemistry' to 'theme song' to the mixes of 4 strings 'turn it around' are just really, really good. sam sharp, purple haze & filterfunk are pretty good too, not as much my style but still consistently good productions.

i should check out sandler. the other ones are good too but i think aside from svd's work my fave alias is sam sharp. i think sam sharp's stuff is closer to svd's work back in the day and not svd's current work right now.

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Originally posted by tristrum By the sounds of most people here, you're judging them on their productions (with the exception of a few) or are basing SVD on his internet mix. Has any of you actually seen them live??

i've seen sander live and not sean. i just happen to like sander's works a LOT. i have only heard two tracks of sean's. but, like i mentioned before, i do feel that sander will come out more on top than sean because it seems like he is only getting more and more popular and i have seen more positive reviews about him than i have for sean, so that might make an influence. i can't be too sure though.

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Originally posted by RJT I'll agree that Tyas is the clear winner, but the ability to produce at different BPM's and not using the same kick aren't really qualifications for solid production, and I assure you that my disdain for Sander isn't without reason. SvD has never once produced a track that was remotely memorable for me, with the clear exception being "Grasshopper," because no one could never possibly forget how absolutely horrid that tune is. Furthermore, his DJ sets are every bit as incoherent as Tyas', they really seem utterly random and without any sort of flow. He really doesn't even reach "mediocre" status with me. Personal preference, I guess - but I honestly don't see this amazing "talent" so many people seem to think he has.

Do you even listen to hard/tech-trance or do you just judge him for making a tracks in a genre you don't understand?
It's not about his recent stuff, but tracks like Twister and his remix of Nocturnal Delight er very memorable too me atleast.

definitely svd

If you want to hear one of Sean Tyas' set you can download it from

http://alldj.org/index.php?name=News&op=Article&sid=646

Its a 2 hour set he played in january, but unfornately, it downloads as one long track.
I have managed to split it up. I could possibly send it some people if you like, when i figure out how. let me know.
Since I put the cd in my car, it hasn't come out. I think it's awesome.

I took that set from

http://alldj.org/index.php

There's sets from most djs on there, including Sander.

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Originally posted by tristrum Has any of you actually seen them live??

both. sander admittedly not in about a year, but i remember going pretty mental on various occasions. i saw sean live less than a week ago, and he bored me to fucking tears. i found it a struggle to actually dance to all but a couple of tunes in his set.. thank fuck christopher lawrence came on after him & ripped the place apart

i was supposed to go to that Crasher, and unfortunately coundn't make it. mates said it was a banger, to my "oh, f**k off" reply to them for rubbing it in.

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Originally posted by Soeder Do you even listen to hard/tech-trance or do you just judge him for making a tracks in a genre you don't understand? It's not about his recent stuff, but tracks like Twister and his remix of Nocturnal Delight er very memorable too me atleast.

Yes, not much, but I do - and I do have some grasp of what I envision as "good" releases in hard/tech-trance, and I've never once heard one from SvD.

Ok, I was just curious...that's fair enough. i'll let you of the hook then

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Originally posted by RJT and I do have some grasp of what I envision as "good" releases in hard/tech-trance

such as?

(this isn't fuel for an argument, just wandering curiosity)

I think RJT has made himself clear enough here

I personally really like Nocturnal Delight and his earlier SVD productions, when I first got into trance he was someone who stood out to me, and I guess this is why I hold him in higher esteem.

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Originally posted by isoterra such as? (this isn't fuel for an argument, just wandering curiosity)

Pretty much the mainstream, but I like a fair amount of Picotto's work, as well as some Marco V.

There are others, but it's clearly not "my style."

I love both djs but I think Sander will move up much faster than Sean. There are too many djs similar to Tyas' style.

that makes about .5 posts about their DJing abilities in this thread.

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