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Originally posted by Jake Benson It's a comparison you coconut. And of course gays are better. They don't discriminate nearly as much. Maybe the Palestinians can learn.

I think Palestinians should learn to be gay.

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Originally posted by Jake Benson Shaolin_Z was talking about people who do blow themselves up.

I was responding to someone else's post who happened to mention it.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z I was responding to someone else's post who happened to mention it.

So then I was the one who took the tangent and made it wild?

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Originally posted by Jake Benson So then I was the one who took the tangent and made it wild?

Heh, I don't know man. I haven't been following this thread or much of anything here on PDD anymore, and TA as a whole I guess.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r There's a big difference between official reports and someone scrawling an opinion in a local rag...and that btw was my point

Yeah this's right BUT it's a certain blatantly case

a.It's recorded while the police guards are investigating with him
b.It's recorded by a local resident not one else
c.The operational activity of the three Border Guard officers involved in the incident was halted Thursday evening following an order issued by Border Guard Commander Hassein Fares.The officers were summoned to present their version to the Police Investigation Unit on Friday morning.
d."The evidence is solid case" said by The head of the investigation team, Avi Peretz.
e."We still have to listen to the suspects' version.In similar cases in the past soldiers were tried and even went to jail," he said.
f.One of the residents said that in addition to the violence, the policemen harass the village girls, a thing that causes "severe social problems within the Palestinian families and social and psychological problems for the girls, who are forced to handle curses that are unacceptable in our society."

Meretz MK: This is the cruelty of occupation

Left-wing Knesset members responded angrily to the affair. Meretz faction chairwoman, MK Zahava Gal-On, called on the Police Investigation Unit to launch an immediate investigation against the officers involved in the incident.

"It is unthinkable that Border Guard policemen should use violence against Palestinians because they think that no one is watching and that they won�t be punished. These images show the brutality of occupation in the territories," she told Ynet.

MK Danny Yatom (Labor) urged the internal security minister, the police commissioner and the Border Guard commander "to launch an immediate investigation and publish its findings. If the Border Guard officers are found guilty, they should be punished severely, and if not � it is important for the Israeli public to know this.

"The investigation is aimed at revealing the truth and punishing the guilty officers, or alternatively, preventing further damage to the State of Israel's reputation," he said.

MK Avshalom Vilan (Meretz) said that "it is clear to all that the occupation corrupts the best of soldiers. The incident must be investigated and we must make sure that norms of inappropriate behavior will not be allowed among IDF soldiers and Border Guard police officers."

Hadash faction chairman, MK Mohammad Barakeh, said that "members of the Border Guard and the security forces draw their cruelty from the prevailing atmosphere in the Israeli street."

Amnon Meranda and Lilach Shoval contributed to the report




If we consider that this child throws rocks

So:

1.He needs amendment.
2.Resocialization.
3.Readaptaion.
4.The Suitable Diagnostic Orientation programmes.
So the sources of Hostility will be removed
NOT FUCKING HIM

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Introduction Children's rights are comprehensively protected by a wide-ranging set of international and regional instruments spanning human rights, humanitarian and refugee law. Children benefit from the rights contained in general treaties. In addition, a number of specialist instruments have been created to accord extra protection to children given their particular vulnerabilities and the importance to society as a whole in ensuring the healthy development and active participation of its young members. Who is a child? The definition of a child under the CRC covers all human beings under the age of 18 unless the relevant national law recognises an earlier age of majority. However, the Convention emphasises that the substitution of an earlier age of majority must be in conformity with the spirit of the Convention and its guiding principles and thus should not be used to undermine the rights of a child. There are no definitions of other terms used to describe young people such as "adolescents", "teenagers" or "youth" in international law. Some organizations have adopted working definitions to facilitate their programmatic work.The World Health Organisation, for example, has adopted the following working definitions: "adolescent" refers to any individual aged between 10-19 years; "young person" refers to any individual between 10-24 years; and "youth" to persons between the ages of 15-24 years. In everyday language, the word "children" usually implies small children, especially those under ten years of age. It is important to note however that the CRC refers to all children by this term including those that one might normally refer to by other terms e.g. adolescents. The extensive provisions of the CRC apply to all persons under 18 but it may be that certain articles are of more relevance to small children e.g. basic survival while others are more significant for older children e.g. protection from sexual exploitation and military recruitment. Rights at Stake Children's rights cover every aspect of the lives of children and adolescents and can be broken down into the following main categories: Survival rights: the right to life and to have the most basic needs met (e.g., adequate standard of living, shelter, nutrition, medical treatment). Development rights: the rights enabling children to reach their fullest potential (e.g. education, play and leisure, cultural activities, access to information and freedom of thought, conscience and religion). Participation rights: rights that allow children and adolescents to take an active role in their communities (e.g., the freedom to express opinions; to have a say in matters affecting their own lives; to join associations). Protection rights: rights that are essential for safeguarding children and adolescents from all forms of abuse, neglect and exploitation (e.g., special care for refugee children; protection against involvement in armed conflict, child labour, sexual exploitation, torture and drug abuse). Specific issues: Child labour - children work for a variety of reasons in differing cultural, social and economic circumstances. Whether work is defined as exploitative will depend on a range of factors including the work itself, the work environment, the presence of particular hazards, the perceived benefits of work and the nature of the employment relationship. Gender also plays a role as girls and boys may be subjected to different forms of exploitative labour. Another important consideration is how work interferes with the right of a child to education. Some forms of child labour have clearly been identified as harmful and are often referred to as the "worst" forms of child labour e.g. sexual exploitation, military recruitment. Sexual exploitation - children and adolescents may be particularly vulnerable to sexual exploitation given their dependency on others and their limited ability to protect themselves. Sexual abuse and exploitation can take a variety of forms including rape, commercial sexual exploitation and domestic abuse. Sexual exploitation has far-reaching effects for the physical and mental health of a child. It is estimated that 1 million children (mainly girls but also a significant number of boys) enter the multi-billion dollar sex trade each year. Military recruitment - An estimated 300,000 children and adolescents are engaged in armed conflict and are often forced into committing extremely brutal acts of violence. Children have a right to specific protection in situations of armed conflict. Juvenile justice - Children and adolescents held in custody for crimes may suffer torture, inhumane and degrading treatment, they may be unlawfully detained and be denied their right to a fair trial. They may be given sentences which damage their well-being and prevent their successful re-integration into society. The administration of juvenile justice is carried out in accordance with the best interests of the child. Rights granted to children under the Convention on the Rights of the Child must be implemented with regard to three key principles: Best interests In all actions concerning children, whether undertaken by public or private social welfare institutions, courts of law, administrative authorities or legislative bodies, the best interests of the child shall be a primary consideration. Non-discrimination Each child's rights are ensured without discrimination of any kind, irrespective of the child's or his or her parent's or legal guardian's race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national, ethnic or social origin, property, disability, birth or other status.

read the rest from the link

www.hrea.org/learn/guides/children.html

i can just tell you my opinion as happens alot with pals ( and i'm a combat soldier in the idf ) while the border police soldier gave him his ID back he could cursed them or say something that belive me after being thrown with blocks on you it's hard stay calm. i don't think one of you ever cursed a police officer and got away with that.

read above ur post

oh SNAP! that kid got beat!

good way to create more hate... chances are that kid will strap dynamite and blow himself up in a nightclub, and all that because of that beating.

>JM<

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Originally posted by FederalBI i can just tell you my opinion as happens alot with pals ( and i'm a combat soldier in the idf ) while the border police soldier gave him his ID back he could cursed them or say something that belive me after being thrown with blocks on you it's hard stay calm. i don't think one of you ever cursed a police officer and got away with that.

Yeah for sure - I know I always beat the shit out of someone who has a difference of opinion than me. Of course, you know, don't you think that those in the position of power should take responsibility for their actions? If it's that hard for you to stay calm when someone curses at you, perhaps you need some counseling, or perhaps you have very low self-esteem.

nop but that kid thought he had the uuper hand when he was with his friends throwing blocks from far on police officers

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Originally posted by FederalBI nop but that kid thought he had the uuper hand when he was with his friends throwing blocks from far on police officers

If you could actually read, this has already been covered. There was NO EVIDENCE THAT IT WAS THOSE SAME KIDS THROWING ROCKS. If you have some super secret evidence that the kids were throwing rocks, then you should present it - the article in question, however, supports no such thing.

as far as i know the arcticle knows shit , unless you were there you can't tell what was there and who was right.

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Originally posted by FederalBI as far as i know the arcticle knows shit , unless you were there you can't tell what was there and who was right.

Nice argument.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r ah shaolin_Z, showing us his map of convenience again... Why not show us all the map showing the Jews being displaced world-wide and establish the big picture instead of one corner?

Oh boo-fucking-hoo. Like the Jews are the only race in history that have had it tough. My grandad was in the 1st Parachute reg, and they went out to Israel in the 50's, trying to secure land for the Israelites, and all they'd do was attack the army personnel trying to help them out.

They piss and moan about everything

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Originally posted by Jake Benson I'd hit the teen too if he was throwing stones in my direction.

I'd be throwing stones if some occupying power was in my country or carving up my land and treating me like shit.

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Originally posted by Dopey they need to be peaceful, simple as that. Even then it will take many years, maybe decades, to get that 1/2 of Israel, can they be that patient? Can they not resort to violence? .

It takes two to Tango. But are you not surprised that these people resort to blowing themselves up and throwing stones? What else have they got? Peace doesn't get them anywhere because if it did, then they woulnd't be in this situation in the first place.

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Originally posted by Dopey Not all Palestinians are suicide bombers,

Quite.

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Originally posted by Dopey not all Israelis are racial profiling warmongers.

The people in power are.

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_ I'd be throwing stones if some occupying power was in my country or carving up my land and treating me like shit.

Right, because throwing stones is obviously the best answer to winning your land back.

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Originally posted by Jake Benson Right, because throwing stones is obviously the best answer to winning your land back.

Dude seriously, just think about, with a calm rational mind that is, what you apparently acknowledged and how you chose to respond.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Dude seriously, just think about, with a calm rational mind that is, what you apparently acknowledged and how you chose to respond.

Dude seriously, just think about, cuz I did. I acknowledge that there's Palestinians being misplaced. It really bothers me. But there's still 1 million living in Israel right? Why aren't those being misplaced? Probably because they don't throw stones and blow things up I'm guessing.

I still can't find any information from the Israeli investigation, just this:

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RAMALLAH, West Bank, 24 March 2007 � The three Israeli Border Guard policemen who were caught on camera beating a 17-year-old Palestinian youth at the West Bank village of Huwwara, near Nablus, on Wednesday, admitted to the act after being questioned yesterday morning by the Police Investigation Unit in Tel Aviv. Two of them are suspected of excessive use of force. A Palestinian citizen documented the incident.

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/20...24/18382485.php

But all that says is they admit to hitting the brat. Anyone else find any updates?

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