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Posted by skip on Apr-03-2007 09:47:

quote:
Originally posted by finnyarmstrong
THERE'S AT LEAST £1000 WORTH OF EQUIPMENT IN A PAIR OF 800'S AND I THINK NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET CLEAN MIXINGS WITH THEM IS WRONG FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY COST.



you can't get clean mixes with them. other people can. so the problem is you. idiot.


Posted by agentdansmith on Apr-03-2007 10:07:

quote:
Originally posted by finnyarmstrong
thanks for not being arsey

I know its the cdj's as i spent ages trying to mix two of my songs that wouldn't go together. It gets to a point where moving the pitch just one notch 0.05 +/- makes it to fast or to slow hence having to touch the platter to keep it in but why pay all that money (�1000) to have to do that!


I've got a pair of 1000 mk2's and I only ever use the 0.05% pitch increment and never use the 0.02% pitch - and I've never had a problem with beatmatching tunes (ok some might drift off every now and then but nothing major).

Also, not sure if it has already been asked, but if you are using tunes that have been ripped from vinyl or downloaded off file sharing apps then this is your problem without a doubt as vinyl speeds always vary slightly and low quality illegal tunes aren't any good either.

You can tell this straight away in Ableton, drop a legit tune in and it warps it up nicely with just the one warp marker, drop in a vinyl ripped tune or illegal tune and you end up with about 50+ markers trying their best to keep the track in time.


Posted by finnyarmstrong on Apr-03-2007 10:15:

DOWMLOADED FROM AUDIOJELLYS


Posted by Tangil on Apr-03-2007 10:50:

Amazing thread


Posted by finnyarmstrong on Apr-03-2007 11:40:

its had abit of everything


Posted by Trance Android on Apr-03-2007 12:10:

quote:
Originally posted by finnyarmstrong
NEVER SAID I COULDN'T ALL I SAID WAS THAT ITS ANNOYING HAVING TO, ALSO YOU DO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH CDJ800'S A SIMPLE TOUCH IS STILL ADJUSTING THE PLATTER. THERE'S AT LEAST £1000 WORTH OF EQUIPMENT IN A PAIR OF 800'S AND I THINK NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET CLEAN MIXINGS WITH THEM IS WRONG FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY COST.




SIR, YOU ARE A TOOL


Posted by Rebel Brown on Apr-03-2007 12:24:

Oh my fucking God.

Finny, YOU are the problem, not your CDJs. RJT was simply stating that if you beatmatch the tracks well enough in the first place then the tracks won't drift for at least a minute without having to make corrections with the platter. Please don't tell me you're using the BPM readout to try and match your tracks.


Posted by agentdansmith on Apr-03-2007 12:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Rebel Brown
Please don't tell me you're using the BPM readout to try and match your tracks.


This has just dawned on me as well...


Posted by djthunderbird on Apr-03-2007 13:05:

Im going to have to swerve to Finny's side a little bit on this.

Of course you CAN 99,9% match the tunes with 0.05% pitch increment. But I fail to see the point. Beatmatching so accuratelly would require heaps of time just to check if the beats are perfect before mixing. And I think that it would be a total waste.

A lot more convenient way is to beatmatch "accuratelly enough" and then just nudge the platter in tiny increments while mixing (you are the one with headphones --> you can hear when the beats are a little of the soonest).
And when the beats drift too fast to your liking you can always adjust pitch while in the mix.

I think that this kinda approach is a lot more dynamic and allows more versatility in mixes.


ps: Im not advocating trainwrecks with this post. I think that the audience should never ever be able to hear clashing beats..


Posted by finnyarmstrong on Apr-03-2007 13:05:

judging someone before you've listened to them is so wrong heres a link to my set called B.c.d listen to it and then judge me

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ess2t3

Assure - Enemy Territory - Leon Boiler Remix
Astralis - Solar Flare - Cor Fijneman Remix
Mino - Fluff Deluxe - Original
David West ft. Andreas Herinsson - Larry Mountains 54 - Original
Kyau & Albert - Are You Fine - The Man Markus Schulz Remix
Synergy - Hello Strings - Flash Brothers Remix
Andre Visior - Skyline - Original
Supermodels From Paris - Keep On - Komytea Remix
Ronski Speed - The Space We Are - Original


Posted by gsfg on Apr-03-2007 13:10:

just need to keep the practising up
everybody loose the beats a bit, its not that big problem


Posted by Trance Android on Apr-03-2007 13:39:

Dude no one is questioning if you can mix or not.

You come on here spouting off that CDJ800's are shit coz they don't auto beatmatch & the tracks won't "lock" long enough for you. You say you find making pitch adjustments annoying. Why do you bother mixing or DJing if the basics irritate you? It's like Michael Schumacher moaning his F1 car doesn't have an auto gearbox, electric windows or air con. Why didn't you try the 800's before you bought em?

Email Pio with your beef & tell them all about your findings - sounds like their quality control/research & development departments really fucked up when they released the CDJ800...

PS I'm downloading your mix, need summat to listen to this avo


Posted by finnyarmstrong on Apr-03-2007 14:08:

WHAT CAN I SAY I'M A PERFECTIONIST


Posted by agentdansmith on Apr-03-2007 14:15:

quote:
Originally posted by finnyarmstrong
WHAT CAN I SAY I'M A PERFECTIONIST


Then you will never be happy


Posted by sterilis on Apr-03-2007 14:22:

quote:
Originally posted by finnyarmstrong
WHAT CAN I SAY I'M A PERFECTIONIST


theres being a perfectionist and theres being darn right stupid you seem to be the latter.


Posted by finnyarmstrong on Apr-03-2007 14:29:

whats with all the bitching on this forum


Posted by sterilis on Apr-03-2007 14:33:

quote:
Originally posted by finnyarmstrong
whats with all the bitching on this forum


because you have a quest to get something that isnt there. the whole joy of mixing is playing about juggling the beats if everything was so complex and easy where would the joy be.


Posted by finnyarmstrong on Apr-03-2007 14:34:

AT NO POINT HAVE I SAID THAT I THOUGHT 800'S COULD AUTO BEATMATCH

quote:
Originally posted by Trance Android
Dude no one is questioning if you can mix or not.

You come on here spouting off that CDJ800's are shit coz they don't auto beatmatch & the tracks won't "lock" long enough for you. You say you find making pitch adjustments annoying. Why do you bother mixing or DJing if the basics irritate you? It's like Michael Schumacher moaning his F1 car doesn't have an auto gearbox, electric windows or air con. Why didn't you try the 800's before you bought em?

Email Pio with your beef & tell them all about your findings - sounds like their quality control/research & development departments really fucked up when they released the CDJ800...

PS I'm downloading your mix, need summat to listen to this avo


Posted by Ministerio on Apr-03-2007 16:10:

So how's everyone doing this fine day? Hope your mixing's going well.


Posted by Storyteller on Apr-03-2007 19:05:

doing well, thanks!

Anyone heard about the new cdj800mk2s, they're the talk of the day!! I just got them and they are amazing, I can beatmatch so easily with them!!

Also the platter has a better feel and it is almost just like the 1000!


Posted by Zild on Apr-03-2007 19:14:

The funniest part was when I read, 'how am i supposed to EQ and keep making adjustments to the platter?'

damn boy all I can say is you're lucky you didn't learn on technics because as a perfectionist you'd be forced to ride the pitch which in essence would mean you'd have to keep a hand on the pitch fader at all times try to EQ doing that junior


Posted by finnyarmstrong on Apr-03-2007 19:24:

LOOK IF YOUR HAPPY WITH HALF DECENT MIXES THEN THATS YOUR CHOICE


Posted by Zild on Apr-03-2007 19:32:

Please don't shout. Also please don't make assumptions. Please accept that not everyone exhibits the same proficiency given a standardized set of tools.

DJs have been doing seamless mixes on beat to hell turntables for at least 40 years now.


Posted by RJT on Apr-03-2007 21:09:

At this point it's clear he's just taking the piss, best to just let this one die at this point


Posted by SPAWNmaster on Apr-03-2007 21:11:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
At this point it's clear he's just taking the piss, best to just let this one die at this point


exactly what i suggested on page 4


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