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I suppose the ones I use at my friend's place are pretty beat up. Like when you're stutter cueing the cue does not always follow the plater exactly. There's sometimes a lag between your movement and the cdjs.

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Originally posted by miamitranceman I suppose the ones I use at my friend's place are pretty beat up. Like when you're stutter cueing the cue does not always follow the plater exactly. There's sometimes a lag between your movement and the cdjs.

my friend's 1000's do that...when it's too problematic i just switch over to vinyl mode, but for the most part its manageable. also someone was wondering what the 800mk2's have over the 1000's. besides the autoloop feature, beat cutting and INTERNAL cue memory (so amazing)...the best feature the 800mk2's have is by far the quick return...so sick.

edit: i noticed i had already posted something about this earlier. but to address some othe questions:

ryan nailed it on the head, quick return allows you to immediately jump back to the cue point when you touch the top of the platter. and no the 1000's don't have this (unless ive just never noticed it but i've played with the 1000's, mk2's and mk3's and have never noticed it).

Oh so the quick return is you touch the platter and it returns to the cue point? How do you enable that? Sounds kinda neat.

At this point I say it makes a LOT of sense to get CDJ-800MK2's. If you have a laptop already, get Torq too. Then you have way more capability at less cost than 2 CDJ-1000MK3's.

The .05% pitch precision is really a non-issue, it's just a differenting feature that Pioneer uses to make people upgrade.

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Originally posted by SPAWNmaster my friend's 1000's do that...when it's too problematic i just switch over to vinyl mode, but for the most part its manageable. also someone was wondering what the 800mk2's have over the 1000's. besides the autoloop feature, beat cutting and INTERNAL cue memory (so amazing)...the best feature the 800mk2's have is by far the quick return...so sick.

i considered getting torq for a while and almost went for it except for the unreliability of Laptops at edm events. even with my intel macbook i've had experienced crashes, recording problems, etc that just steer me away. the less hardware you can bring to a gig, the better.

and as some may notice i've definately been raving about the 800mk2's since i got my new pair they are truly compareable and some ways offer more value than the 1000's (relatively)


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you activate the quick return by pressing the green "quick return" button near the track information display. doesn't work in CDJ mode since cdj mode's CUE naturally works like that anyways.

I burn CD's even though I use torq at home a lot. If I do play out, I'll use the CD's. For the price ($250), you get an effects unit, sampler, quick and easy access to all your music, perfect looping, and vst support. I like it

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Originally posted by SPAWNmaster i considered getting torq for a while and almost went for it except for the unreliability of Laptops at edm events. even with my intel macbook i've had experienced crashes, recording problems, etc that just steer me away. the less hardware you can bring to a gig, the better. and as some may notice i've definately been raving about the 800mk2's since i got my new pair they are truly compareable and some ways offer more value than the 1000's (relatively) edit: you activate the quick return by pressing the green "quick return" button near the track information display. doesn't work in CDJ mode since cdj mode's CUE naturally works like that anyways.

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Originally posted by Scolomon how useful are the hotcues? i know you can set up like 3 different parts on a track to cue. so if i hit this button on a song does it seemlessly go back to this spot in the song and sound continuous?

i dont really use them... iv used them mabye a couple of times.... not too many

the loop adjust on the 1000... where you can adjust the starting point of the loop i never use as well... i only adjust the end part of the loop.

needles to say, if i could do it again... id buy

2 800's mk2

instead of

800mk2 + 1000mk3

yes, you should buy them.

and you should give them to me.

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Originally posted by SPAWNmaster .....also someone was wondering what the 800mk2's have over the 1000's. .....and INTERNAL cue memory (so amazing)...

Eh? I agree with almost everything you ever say.... however I cannot see the logic behind saying that the 800s memory system is better than the 1000s because you cannot remove it and take it with you to a gig....?!?!

Am I missing your point?

Jarv

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Originally posted by SPAWNmaster besides the autoloop feature, beat cutting and INTERNAL cue memory (so amazing)...the best feature the 800mk2's have is by far the quick return...so sick. edit: i noticed i had already posted something about this earlier. but to address some othe questions: ryan nailed it on the head, quick return allows you to immediately jump back to the cue point when you touch the top of the platter. and no the 1000's don't have this (unless ive just never noticed it but i've played with the 1000's, mk2's and mk3's and have never noticed it).

A few points to pick up on - as far as I'm aware, CDJ1000s have got the same internal memory as a CDJ800, plus the option to dump it onto a memory card - that's not something exclusive to the CDJ800.

Also, as I said in another thread, the Quick Return is a nice idea but is gashly implemented - as it needs to be in vinyl mode and the CDJ800's response isn't perfect there's always a slight lag between you tapping the platter and it starting playing from the cue point. Why you think this "pwns the hell out of the 1000's" I have no idea, seeing that you can do exactly the same by simply sticking a hot start on the cue point, only hot starts respond instantly so you can do SO much more with them - plus there are 3 of them.

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Originally posted by agentdansmith What is Quick Return then?

basically as soon as you release the jog wheel (in vinyl mode) it plays from the cue point, so you could tap it over and over again and it would play from the cue point every time

if you cued up a "waaa" vocal or something every time you held the jog wheel it would stop and go back to the cue point, then when you released it it would play

spawnmaster - how do you use the quick return? i dont use it on my 800s was just wondering if theres any benefit over the standard cue/play

Stu, you definately raise some good points. I was not aware that the 1000's have internal memory in addition to the memory card and thats definately a plus. With the quick return it's best to hold your hand on the platter to return to your cue point and then release when you actually want to drop that point rather than tapping it like a hot cue on the 1000's. I wouldn't praise it for being used like the hot cues on the 1000's, but rather when mixing instead of tapping the cue button (how I use it mostly)...so in that regard the 1000's are sick because they have the hot cues. Don't get me wrong, I definitely know how awesome the 1000's are I just think the 800mk2's are just as sick and as a new owner am nothing but happy with how they compare to 1000's.

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Originally posted by Stu Cox A few points to pick up on - as far as I'm aware, CDJ1000s have got the same internal memory as a CDJ800, plus the option to dump it onto a memory card - that's not something exclusive to the CDJ800. Also, as I said in another thread, the Quick Return is a nice idea but is gashly implemented - as it needs to be in vinyl mode and the CDJ800's response isn't perfect there's always a slight lag between you tapping the platter and it starting playing from the cue point. Why you think this "pwns the hell out of the 1000's" I have no idea, seeing that you can do exactly the same by simply sticking a hot start on the cue point, only hot starts respond instantly so you can do SO much more with them - plus there are 3 of them.

plus,

black is damn sexy

Aren't 1000mk2's alot cheaper these days?

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Originally posted by Clovis Aren't 1000mk2's alot cheaper these days?

yes if u can find them brand new that is

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Originally posted by SPAWNmaster Stu, you definately raise some good points. I was not aware that the 1000's have internal memory in addition to the memory card and thats definately a plus. With the quick return it's best to hold your hand on the platter to return to your cue point and then release when you actually want to drop that point rather than tapping it like a hot cue on the 1000's. I wouldn't praise it for being used like the hot cues on the 1000's, but rather when mixing instead of tapping the cue button (how I use it mostly)...so in that regard the 1000's are sick because they have the hot cues. Don't get me wrong, I definitely know how awesome the 1000's are I just think the 800mk2's are just as sick and as a new owner am nothing but happy with how they compare to 1000's.

Yeah I see what you mean, probably something I'd use the cue button for myself, but for a last minute "OhShitIveMissedMyCuePoint" it's probably a little bit quicker lol or as '' said, using it for scratching-esque effects when you can't be arsed to scratch properly.

And yeah, I don't really mean to knock it - I absolutely love mine, I just like people to know the benefits and limitations of the kit they could potentially be spending a lot of their hard earned cash on.

You definitely get a lot for your money with a CDJ800, seeing that it's 30% cheaper than the 1000 it's not particularly stripped down - in fact I tend to think that �250 for the extra features you get with a 1000 is a bit excessive and they might as well have just included them in the 800. It's probably actually cheaper for them to stick hot cues in a deck than the auto beat loops tbh... I know the overall build quality's better on a 1000 though.

From what I've been reading, I would defo choose 3 Hot Cue's over Quick Return, and I also think that external memory (memory card) is much better than internal.

I've got a few tunes where it took quite a while to set the cue point (due to a weird intro) just right and I am so glad that I've now got those cue points saved to an SD card. As I probably wouldn't try and play those particular tunes out if I had to re-set the cue points.

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