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Posted by jerZ07002 on Apr-17-2007 18:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Stassi
what about people who walk around with tons of cash because they deal in a, you know, cash business.
If I were walking around with 10k in my pocket on the way to the bank you bet your ass I would want some sort of a concealed weapon.


Feeling safe doesn't actually make you safe. If someone surprised you with a gun in your face, there is nothing you can do despite you having a gun in your pocket.


Posted by Greedy on Apr-17-2007 21:40:

hey guys, Im actually a student here at VT and a big thanks to Erin for checking up on me. It was really hard to get a hold of anyone since cell phones were jammed from everyone trying to call home at the same time. You can imagine some of the panic that we all felt down here when we couldnt reach friends to see if theyre OK.

This incident hit close to home for me. One of my friends live on the same floor where the first shooting took place, and I walk by the dorm every morning before going to work. Not only that, the second shooting took place in my engineering building.

Rather than focusing entirely on the shooter or the faults of the police authority, we should remember those that died, still in the hospital, and the heroes that risked their lives yesterday. One professor, a holocaust survivor who was killed, blocked the doorway so that his students could jump out the windows.

VT is a great school with great ppl. Ask anyone thats come down here, theyll say that we're a lot of fun and laid back.

Please show some support for us down here and keep us in your prayers!


Posted by phuzzyfish12 on Apr-17-2007 21:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Greedy


VT is a great school with great ppl. Ask anyone thats come down here, theyll say that we're a lot of fun and laid back.

Please show some support for us down here and keep us in your prayers!


I agree VT is a great school.

Glad to hear that you are doing OK. Our thoughts and prayers are with all of you.


Posted by yankeeBaby on Apr-17-2007 22:14:

quote:
Originally posted by phuzzyfish12
I agree VT is a great school.

Glad to hear that you are doing OK. Our thoughts and prayers are with all of you.


+1!


btw: you know whats complete bullshit? I heard that that stupid west baptist church .......(or whatever they are called....the one's who protest at the soldier's funeral's)........ are going to PROTEST at several VT student's funerals!! WTF I HATE those people!! I really can not believe noone has f*cked those people up.....I would if I had the chance, believe you me!


Posted by phuzzyfish12 on Apr-17-2007 22:19:

^^^ What? Why? I haven't heard about this? That totally sucks!!!!


Posted by yankeeBaby on Apr-17-2007 22:22:

quote:
Originally posted by phuzzyfish12
^^^ What? Why? I haven't heard about this? That totally sucks!!!!


They said: the students deserve to die, because our soldiers are shooting at servants of god, and thus god had sent a madman in return for our actions. or some bullshit like that. Now these fockers are gonna be outside students funerals (like the soldiers) saying that they deserve to die and should rot in hell and BULLSHIT like that.

I need to find that goddamn link but i dont remember where I saw it.


Posted by phuzzyfish12 on Apr-17-2007 22:25:

WTF!!! That is total BS, way to make a bad situation worse, you know?


Posted by jerZ07002 on Apr-17-2007 22:29:

THis is the website of those sick fuks where it says they are going to protest. They also protested at the funerals of those little amish girls. What horrible people.

http://www.godhatesamerica.com/


btw, Greedy, glad to hear you and your friends are okay.


Posted by ReenTeenTeen on Apr-17-2007 22:30:

quote:
Originally posted by phuzzyfish12
WTF!!! That is total BS, way to make a bad situation worse, you know?


There is a Russian proverb for people like that:

"There are so little fools in this world, but they are spread around the world so correcly, that you run into them on every step you make."


Posted by yankeeBaby on Apr-17-2007 22:40:

source: http://www.towleroad.com/2007/04/virginia_tech_f.html


Posted by Stassi on Apr-18-2007 00:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Greedy


Rather than focusing entirely on the shooter or the faults of the police authority, we should remember those that died, still in the hospital, and the heroes that risked their lives yesterday. One professor, a holocaust survivor who was killed, blocked the doorway so that his students could jump out the windows.

Wow, im more shocked that the news did not mention this at all as it is a true display of courage and character. After all the shit he has already gone thru in his life he still sacrificed himself for the good of others.
Aside from that I hope you are ok..


Posted by Stassi on Apr-18-2007 00:48:

quote:
Originally posted by ReenTeenTeen
There is a Russian proverb for people like that:

"There are so little fools in this world, but they are spread around the world so correcly, that you run into them on every step you make."

It couldn't be any truer.
I am glad I surround myself with people who help me through this crazy world.


Posted by yankeeBaby on Apr-18-2007 00:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Stassi
Wow, im more shocked that the news did not mention this at all as it is a true display of courage and character. After all the shit he has already gone thru in his life he still sacrificed himself for the good of others.
Aside from that I hope you are ok..


I've seen it on the news a few times. what a brave man, in every sense of the word.


Posted by phuzzyfish12 on Apr-18-2007 01:01:

One of the professors that was lost. It just really touched me to see that he was one of the top five biomechanic researcher in the country, working on stuff for cerebral palsy:

Entire Article:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18143312/

Kevin Granata, 45, an engineering science and mechanics professor who was married and had three children. He had served in the military and later conducted orthopedic research in hospitals before going to Virginia Tech, where he and his students researched muscle and reflex response and robotics.

Virginia Tech Department chief Ishwar Puri said Granata was one of the top five biomechanics researchers in the country, working on movement dynamics in cerebral palsy.

Engineering professor Demetri Telionis said Granata was successful, but also kind. "With so many research projects and graduate students, he still found time to spend with his family and he coached his children in many sports and extracurricular activities," Telionis said. "He was a wonderful family man. We will all miss him dearly."


Posted by jerZ07002 on Apr-18-2007 04:18:

quote:
Originally posted by phuzzyfish12

Entire Article:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18143312/


man....reading that article was pretty difficult, especially with the pictures of all the ppl who died.


Posted by phuzzyfish12 on Apr-18-2007 04:37:

^^^ I know I saw it this morning and I couldn't even look at the pictures it was to hard.


Posted by vtec junkie on Apr-18-2007 05:50:

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
THis is the website of those sick fuks where it says they are going to protest. They also protested at the funerals of those little amish girls. What horrible people.

http://www.godhatesamerica.com/


btw, Greedy, glad to hear you and your friends are okay.



These fucking assholes fall under the same category of the monster that killed all these people......what the fuck makes people think in such ways???


Posted by jerZ07002 on Apr-18-2007 06:40:

quote:
Originally posted by vtec junkie
These fucking assholes fall under the same category of the monster that killed all these people......what the fuck makes people think in such ways???


Almost worse in my mind....its like they're twisting the knife in the hearts of the distraught family members. It's terrible. Laws should be made to prevent such things.


Posted by BloodfIower on Apr-18-2007 11:35:

quote:
Originally posted by vtec junkie
^ It is....I can't believe the guy had time to shoot so many people. It deff did not sound like an automatic weapon....he had to re-load at some point....unless he was carrying more than one weapon.


me catched a few cnn comments yesterday and they said he had 2 9mm handguns and that one of them was a common 92fs. i dont know how to say it to not praise him or to not sound harsh. but thats incredible...
the chief (?) of the hospital said, they have noone in there who not atleast got injured from 3 bullet impacts...
killing 32 ppl and wound (how much are confirmed atm?) around 20 other ppl with 2 berettas (remember there are 'only' 15rounds per clip each) is like, wtf, how could he be trained so precisly?
i mean, an unmodified 92fs is abselutly not even close to the type of firearm that could be called a massdestruction handgun ...


quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
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Lastly, regardless if he was defending a position, he was using a tragedy to promote his position.


which was the most pervert comment i heared out of the whole virginia-tech case.
its just so wrong, imagine f.e. someone say: "everyone has the right for alkohol, i like alkohol, but ofcourse the laws must be followed!..."
on a crimescene where a group of kindergarten kids where killed by an boozed teenager street race! he would be slaughtered while not even finished the sentence...

anyway, the australien minister (?) had summed it up pretty precisly on the gun/law-siutation in the states. its just as dishonourable as these godhatesamerica sect...



quote:
Originally posted by Stassi
what about people who walk around with tons of cash because they deal in a, you know, cash business.
If I were walking around with 10k in my pocket on the way to the bank you bet your ass I would want some sort of a concealed weapon.


dude u are hollywoodized

quote:
Originally posted by Miss Bliss
So that you could... shoot... and possibly kill... someone... and possibly innocent bystanders... because he was trying to rob you? Do you live in Gothamland? A little bit implausible, puzzling, and completely off-topic anyway...


MUUUUHHAHAHAA lol @ gothamland
+1


Posted by kaykay on Apr-18-2007 13:37:

I send my prayers and condolences to the friends and family of the victims of this terrible tradgedy.


Posted by das_Mario on Apr-18-2007 22:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Greedy
VT is a great school with great ppl. Ask anyone thats come down here, theyll say that we're a lot of fun and laid back.

Please show some support for us down here and keep us in your prayers!


Pete...I'm glad to know you're ok!

My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and to the friends and families of the victims of this massacre.

I never imagined that something so terrible would ever happen at Virginia Tech!


Posted by das_Mario on Apr-18-2007 22:16:

Here is the full article on Liviu Librescu. This is a fine example of someone who was heroic and selfless.

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Holocaust survivor killed in Va shooting
By MATTI FRIEDMAN, Associated Press Writer
Tue Apr 17, 6:02 PM ET

Liviu Librescu survived the Nazi Holocaust. He died trying to keep a gunman from shooting his students in a killing spree at Virginia Tech � a heroic feat later recounted in e-mails from students to his wife.

Librescu, an aeronautics engineer and teacher at the school for 20 years, saved the lives of several students by using his body to barricade a classroom door before he was gunned down in Monday's massacre, which coincided with Holocaust Remembrance Day.

His son, Joe Librescu, told The Associated Press on Tuesday that his mother received e-mails from students shortly after learning of her husband's death.

"My father blocked the doorway with his body and asked the students to flee," Joe Librescu said in a telephone interview from his home outside of Tel Aviv. "Students started opening windows and jumping out."

Joe Librescu told CNN that one of the e-mails was from the last student left in the room. The student said he looked back and saw his teacher struggling to hold the door, and "he was torn between jumping out the window and coming and helping my dad."

"He chose, and possibly made the right decision, to jump out the window," the son said.

The gunman, identified as 23-year-old Cho Seung-Hui, an English major and native of South Korea, killed 32 people before committing suicide, officials said, in what was the deadliest shooting rampage in modern U.S. history.

Librescu, 76, had known hardship since his childhood.

When Romania joined forces with Nazi Germany in World War II, he was first interned at a labor camp in Transnistria and then deported along with his family and thousands of other Jews to a ghetto in the Romanian city of Focsani, his son said.

According to a report compiled by the Romanian government in 2004, between 280,000 and 380,000 Jews were killed by Romania's Nazi-allied regime during the war.

"We were in Romania during the Second World War, and we were Jews there among the Germans, and among the anti-Semitic Romanians," Marlena Librescu told Israeli Channel 10 TV on Tuesday.

After the war, Librescu became a successful engineer under the postwar communist government and worked at Romania's aerospace agency. But his career was stymied in the 1970s because he refused to swear allegiance to dictator Nicolae Ceausescu's regime, his son said, and he was later fired when he requested permission to move to Israel.

After years of government refusal, according to his son, Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin personally intervened to get the family an emigration permit. They moved to Israel in 1978.

Librescu left Israel for Virginia in 1985 for a year sabbatical, but eventually made the move permanent, said Joe Librescu, who himself studied at Virginia Tech from 1989-1994. The elder Librescu, who was an engineering and math lecturer at the school, published extensively and received numerous awards for his work.

"His work was his life in a sense," his son said.

In Romania, the academic community mourned Librescu's death.

"It is a great loss," said Ecaterina Andronescu, rector of the Polytechnic University in Bucharest, where Librescu graduated in 1953. "We have immense consideration for the way he reacted and defended his students with his life."

At the university, where Librescu received an honorary degree in 2000, his picture was placed on a table and a candle was lit. People lay flowers nearby.

Professor Nicolae Serban Tomescu described Librescu as "strong and dignified."

"He had a huge affection for his students and he sacrificed his life for them," Tomescu told AP Television News.


Posted by Stassi on Apr-19-2007 13:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Bloodflower

dude u are hollywoodized

im not saying i walk around with that kind of cash, but all the people that run super markets or resturants; they can make 10k a night easy. No hollywood no BS, it is law they are allowed to carry concealed weapons.
edit: my lawyer buddy just confirmed its 25k in new york for the concealed carry permit.


Posted by Dirichlet on Apr-19-2007 15:10:

quote:
Originally posted by phuzzyfish12
^^^ I know I saw it this morning and I couldn't even look at the pictures it was to hard.


I made the mistake of looking up some profiles on myspace... so incredibly tragic...


Posted by filoandperi on Apr-19-2007 19:33:

Our hearts go out to all the victims and their families. R.I.P
-b&d


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