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Posted by Andryuha on Jun-22-2007 18:33:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
no offense man, but after a certain point you are going to have to just learn on your own things like this. It's pretty much common sense business. Ask your parents


Honestly I have no idea how this business really works. It's not the same as applying for any other job. It's not like I'm going to get a residency out of this. As I mentioned in the first post, this whole situation is completely random


Posted by Tony Morello on Jun-22-2007 21:05:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
no offense man, but after a certain point you are going to have to just learn on your own things like this. It's pretty much common sense business. Ask your parents


in a way he has a point

in the world of the working dj, you kinda either get it or don't

it's about going out and talking to people, making yourself known, supporting the nights you'd like to play at one day (i was going to our afterhours club for a couple years before i played)

make contacts

you have to be a familiar face with a large group of friends that will support you

if you can't get people in the club and get them drinking, you're not worth a lot

i can pay any monkey to stand there and mix, it's the ones that help make money that get the nod


Posted by Andryuha on Jun-22-2007 21:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Tony Morello
in a way he has a point

in the world of the working dj, you kinda either get it or don't

it's about going out and talking to people, making yourself known, supporting the nights you'd like to play at one day (i was going to our afterhours club for a couple years before i played)

make contacts

you have to be a familiar face with a large group of friends that will support you

if you can't get people in the club and get them drinking, you're not worth a lot

i can pay any monkey to stand there and mix, it's the ones that help make money that get the nod


That's essentially what I've been doing and that's how I originally met this promoter. However, I haven't been out very often recently. All I know is that he told me to send him a demo, which I did. Do you think I should wait for his response or send him another email?


Posted by Nemesis44 on Jun-22-2007 21:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Andryuha
That's essentially what I've been doing and that's how I originally met this promoter. However, I haven't been out very often recently. All I know is that he told me to send him a demo, which I did. Do you think I should wait for his response or send him another email?


Stop hassling with e-mails. Go to the club where he works, even if it's just to say hi. But don't make it look like you are stalking him. Go out, take some friends with you and have a good time and slip him another demo (Not the same one obviously), also give them to clubbers. People like being given free stuff and you can be sure that at least one of your CDs will be played at an after party.

Cardinal sin of any demo is to not include your contact details and who you are... remember name and number at the very least.

Also don't limit yourself to one night, work the whole field. Make sure you get an offer from somewhere else, or better still, try and get a pre club bar to play at too. Will give you some valuable experience because it all counts in the end.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by Tony Morello on Jun-22-2007 22:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44
Stop hassling with e-mails. Go to the club where he works, even if it's just to say hi. But don't make it look like you are stalking him. Go out, take some friends with you and have a good time and slip him another demo (Not the same one obviously), also give them to clubbers. People like being given free stuff and you can be sure that at least one of your CDs will be played at an after party.


that's what i mean about being a familiar face

you shouldn't be waiting 10 days in the first place, you should be talking to them the next time you're out

go up and shake hands, casually ask if they've had a chance to listen to your mix yet

be short and sweet, don't stand there and tell them your life story, they're busy with bigger fish to fry

bring friends, have fun

and yes, give cds out to the clubbers, they're the ones that are going to want to hear you play, the promoter only cares if you can play and get people through the door

it's your cd that gets slapped on at an afterparty and gets people talking (who is that? where can i hear more?)

you need to make friends with anyone and everyone

above all know, it takes time in this industry before you're at a place where you can confidently walk into a club night after night and rock it out

just like it takes at least 5 years in comedy before you're funny, it takes years of practice and paying your dues before you're a good dj

hit the decks and keep practicing, save the jesus pose practice until after you have a few good shows under your belt


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