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i just cant believe you would think i have the ability to distinguish wrong from right. I'll send pics to your dad too if you aren't careful

Where i live, the minimum wage is 6.15/hr, but for waiters and others who earn a large part of their income from tips the minimum wage is only 3.13/hr. Therefore, when you don't tip me i am not making anywhere near minimum wage. This is why you are expected to tip. If you weren't expected to tip, the cost of your meal would go up by at least $5 anyway.

20% standard.

25% is higher than average, and 15% is so 1990's.

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Originally posted by EXTREMUM 20% standard. 25% is higher than average, and 15% is so 1990's.

You'd be surprised. Most people tip under 20%. 15% or so is about average and it is not uncommon, especially on large checks, for people to tip under 10%.

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Originally posted by Enigmatic XTC You'd be surprised. Most people tip under 20%. 15% or so is about average and it is not uncommon, especially on large checks, for people to tip under 10%.

Possibly where you live (Carolinas, right?), the cost of living and earning potential is lesser than average - so is the common tipping percentage out there.

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Originally posted by EXTREMUM Possibly where you live (Carolinas, right?), the cost of living and earning potential is lesser than average - so is the common tipping percentage out there.

Perhaps

When I was in Miami Beach for WMC, a lot of places I went to had included the tip into the bill. Their reason was "We get a lot of European tourists and they don't understand the concept of tipping."

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Originally posted by Jake Benson When I was in Miami Beach for WMC, a lot of places I went to had included the tip into the bill. Their reason was "We get a lot of European tourists and they don't understand the concept of tipping."

In Miami Beach, you're expected to drop heavy cash. The tip INCLUDED in a bill is called "gratuities", which is usually 25% of the actual bill. It's basically, a gentler version of "fuck you - have a nice day", because gratuities are meant to be paid separately from an actual tip.

CliffNotes: With gratuities at restaurants, you're tipping the server on the bill. Then, you're commonly expected to leave a separate "tip" to the server, as well.



This is common in some chain and most finer restaurants. With chain restaurants, gratuities may be required and added to your bill, when you have many guests seated at your table - every restaurant has their standards. Finer restaurants require gratuity like it's tradition, since spending money is the only thing rich people know how to do with their lives.

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Originally posted by EXTREMUM CliffNotes: With gratuities at restaurants, you're tipping the server on the bill. Then, you're commonly expected to leave a separate "tip" to the server, as well.

Wow, glad I decided not to tip on top of the "bill tip" then. Guess they must've thought I was an asshole, lol.

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Originally posted by Jake Benson When I was in Miami Beach for WMC, a lot of places I went to had included the tip into the bill.

So, that's exactly how it works here.

usually, places only throw the minimum gratuity on the bill if you're in a fairly large party (6 or more), just in case. I think they usually make it about 18%.

I guess its a custom in america to tip, but anywhere else in the world..i dont think tipping is a norm.

stupid custom of course.

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Originally posted by echosystm ive never tipped anyone in my life i think its just an american thing

Yeah, as I said before, it's just not the custom here. I do it sometimes, but mostly just if it's in a taxi or something, the fare is $19, I hand over a twenty and just say "keep the change mate." Maybe in a restaurant if everything was absolutely awesome (and well priced for that awesomeness ), but not that often, and I know that the waiter/bartender/whoever's wages are not too bad.

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Originally posted by ZeJayMan "I'm very sorry the government taxes their tips, that's fucked up. That ain't my fault. It would seem to me that waitresses are one of the many groups the government fucks in the ass on a regular basis. Look, if you ask me to sign something that says the government shouldn't do that, I'll sign it, put it to a vote, I'll vote for it, but what I won't do is play ball. And as for this non-college bullshit I got two words for that: learn to fuckin' type, 'cause if you're expecting me to help out with the rent you're in for a big fuckin' surprise."

MR BLONDE!!!!

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Originally posted by Jake Benson When I was in Miami Beach for WMC, a lot of places I went to had included the tip into the bill. Their reason was "We get a lot of European tourists and they don't understand the concept of tipping."

When i was in germany, i tipped this one waitress and she freaked out that i gave her too much - she ended up catching me on the street right outside the bar to give me money back. it was kinda weird, but humbling at the same time.

we dont tip or jus ton extra occasion since bartenders , waitress ...have all the legal minimum wage ....all the tips they get are extra money

on the contrary when i do travel , i usually tip because i know the system can be different from france

If you have to ask yourself, "should I tip?"...TIP.

I work at a chocolate shop where we make lattes, hot drinks, milkshakes, etc. Our owner thinks it's tacky to have a tip jar...and because of that, people rarely tip on their own. However, most of the drinks take a while to make and I think it's extremely rude when people come in and order multiple drinks without tipping.

Also, if you are at a place where the staff brings your drink/food over to you, or if you are leaving your dishes behind for them to clean up...for Christ's sake: TIP!!!

i don't have as much experience as theresa, but i've worked at starbucks, and am currently working delivery for wings.

starbucks: we got paid (when you're first hired) $7 iirc, and you're guaranteed at least $1 in tips per hour you work. usually tips don't amount to much. you work 15 hours in a week (thats why i quit, fucking impossible to get hours under that management) i'd end up with like 22 bucks in tips at the end of the week or something like that. its all divided up at the end of every shift and proportioned between the employees and how long they worked. nice lil bonus, but nothing you count on or expect.


wings: i get paid $5/hour, and at the end of every night have to report at least $6.75/hour (i think) which is the minimum wage. not a problem though, i make a good amount more than that. the average order's probably about $15 total, and the average tip is usually $2. however, we do a lot of $5-6 orders and you usually get 1-2 bucks on those, and then sometimes you'll take out a $100 order and still just get $2. hell one time i took a $180 order and got fucking stiffed. but yeah, its a college town, if its under 20 bucks usually people will throw you a couple dollars.

the weird thing with delivery is that you gotta figure in gas. so i'll walk away from a good friday with $150 in tips alone, but i'll spend $30 of that on gas. people rarely take this into account, we got one college way on the other side of town that when gas is at its highest can cost like $.50 in gas just to drive there and back, and if you get stiffed you're essentially losing money.


as for how i tip, $1 for a drink at a bar etc, 15% minimum at restaurants, upwards of 25-30% if the service is really fucking good/i'm a regular and like the person etc. and yeah, never really use valet or any of those things and whatnot

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Originally posted by mezzir i don't have as much experience as theresa, but i've worked at starbucks, and am currently working delivery for wings. starbucks: we got paid (when you're first hired) $7 iirc, and you're guaranteed at least $1 in tips per hour you work. usually tips don't amount to much. you work 15 hours in a week (thats why i quit, fucking impossible to get hours under that management) i'd end up with like 22 bucks in tips at the end of the week or something like that. its all divided up at the end of every shift and proportioned between the employees and how long they worked. nice lil bonus, but nothing you count on or expect.

i still don't understand why you would even get tips? it's your job to make coffee and give it to me. me not returning it and saying, "this coffee sucks" should be tip enough

do you tip your bartender?
half the drinks we make are as complex and time consuming, if not moreso, than any drinks you'd order at a bar

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Originally posted by Sushipunk Dunno. Here in Australia hardly anyone tips, ever. It's really not customary.

yeah, pretty much the only time i've seen it is in a couple of cafes where theres a jar for change at the register if you want. Or yeah if its a cabbie or something I might just let them keep the change if its close to the amount.

The employer is responsible for paying wages, not the customer.

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Originally posted by tubularbills i still don't understand why you would even get tips? it's your job to make coffee and give it to me. me not returning it and saying, "this coffee sucks" should be tip enough

Two words: Common Courtesy. Besides, it's not the servers fault, that he coffee sucks. You expect to do a taste test for you, upon giving you the coffee? I didn't think so...

^ Triple post!

(Looks like I wasn't the only one with slow internets, lol).

If they get an hourly wage that isnt below minimum wage, then I dont tip. In America I tip waiters and waitress and bar people (but not every drink). In Australia, nothing. The minumum wage is more than enough and to be honest the service kind of sucks compared to American service.

what's everyone think about tipping people at chipolte and the like? seems like tip jars are popping up lots of places that they used to not be...

i always tip... but seriously why fucking pay someone extra for doing their job. everytime i tip it makes me mad

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