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a couple im very friend with gonna have a baby in a couple of months ,and do plan to get married soon afterwards
they fit very well together and are already living and are engaged to each other , i guess getting married wont change anything to them just for the taxes and a new name for my friend
but i think like some of u said , when people are feeling good together getting married is like the last step in the committement scale ....a really beautiful thing to me
i do plan to get married in few years.....
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| Originally posted by Ygrene ...,got to do with it What's love but a second hand emotion EDIT: I WIN THIS ROUND JAMIE!!! |
I think individualism is the root cause of much of the divorce we see today. Too many people believe that their wants and needs are all that is important or at best they are of paramount importance thus they give too little consideration to their partner or the family unit. This leads to people acting in their own interest, which often conflicts with their partners... if both are acting for their own interests then when they conflict the marriage will be dissolved.
Nietzsche stated "the will to marriage is the will of two creators to create something greater then those who created it, and in doing so go under." (thus spoke zarathustra part II). What he's stating here is that marriage is and must be a choice by the two individuals to create a new entity that is greater then each of the individuals... this new entity is the couple. In forming the couple the two individuals must give up their individual will in favour of the couple's will. I agree with this completely. Once married, individuals need to give greater consideration to what is in the best interest of the combined couple then what is in the best interest of each of the individuals. If each person always acts in the best interest of the couple then the marriage will be a success and both partners will share in that success and happyness. As soon as one of the partners puts their will above the best interest of the couple then the marriage suffers.
Re: Getting married
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| Originally posted by Lira My relationship with my girlfriend's come to a point where it feels we're going to get married any time soon. |
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| Originally posted by Moral Hazard |
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| Originally posted by Moral Hazard I think individualism is the root cause of much of the divorce we see today. Too many people believe that their wants and needs are all that is important or at best they are of paramount importance thus they give too little consideration to their partner or the family unit. This leads to people acting in their own interest, which often conflicts with their partners... if both are acting for their own interests then when they conflict the marriage will be dissolved. Nietzsche stated "the will to marriage is the will of two creators to create something greater then those who created it, and in doing so go under." (thus spoke zarathustra part II). What he's stating here is that marriage is and must be a choice by the two individuals to create a new entity that is greater then each of the individuals... this new entity is the couple. In forming the couple the two individuals must give up their individual will in favour of the couple's will. I agree with this completely. Once married, individuals need to give greater consideration to what is in the best interest of the combined couple then what is in the best interest of each of the individuals. If each person always acts in the best interest of the couple then the marriage will be a success and both partners will share in that success and happyness. As soon as one of the partners puts their will above the best interest of the couple then the marriage suffers. |
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| Originally posted by Moral Hazard I think individualism is the root cause of much of the divorce we see today. Too many people believe that their wants and needs are all that is important or at best they are of paramount importance thus they give too little consideration to their partner or the family unit. This leads to people acting in their own interest, which often conflicts with their partners... if both are acting for their own interests then when they conflict the marriage will be dissolved. Nietzsche stated "the will to marriage is the will of two creators to create something greater then those who created it, and in doing so go under." (thus spoke zarathustra part II). What he's stating here is that marriage is and must be a choice by the two individuals to create a new entity that is greater then each of the individuals... this new entity is the couple. In forming the couple the two individuals must give up their individual will in favour of the couple's will. I agree with this completely. Once married, individuals need to give greater consideration to what is in the best interest of the combined couple then what is in the best interest of each of the individuals. If each person always acts in the best interest of the couple then the marriage will be a success and both partners will share in that success and happyness. As soon as one of the partners puts their will above the best interest of the couple then the marriage suffers. |
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| Originally posted by igottaknow thx dr phil |
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| Originally posted by Moral Hazard "Ya'll can't be behaving like you're single. Ya can't win a tug of war if everybody on the team is pulling the rope in different directions. Fruit salad ain't a salad unless it's all in one cup, the way ya'll are acting yer just peachs and pineapples in different bowls." |
yea but a majority of society is on that level, so dr. phil is actually a genius for knowing how to talk their language, and still get his point across.
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| Originally posted by Slylee yea but a majority of society is on that level, so dr. phil is actually a genius for knowing how to talk their language, and still get his point across. |
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| Originally posted by Slylee yea but a majority of society is on that level, so dr. phil is actually a genius for knowing how to talk their language, and still get his point across. |
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| Originally posted by Moral Hazard Indeed, that is the key to his success. Playing to the lowest common denominator always gets you the largest following. |
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| Originally posted by igottaknow for a second there i thought you were talking about george bush |
marriage isnt worth it, imo
I don't think it makes a difference whether you get married or not, in the long run..
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| Originally posted by Moral Hazard I think individualism is the root cause of much of the divorce we see today. Too many people believe that their wants and needs are all that is important or at best they are of paramount importance thus they give too little consideration to their partner or the family unit. This leads to people acting in their own interest, which often conflicts with their partners... if both are acting for their own interests then when they conflict the marriage will be dissolved. Nietzsche stated "the will to marriage is the will of two creators to create something greater then those who created it, and in doing so go under." (thus spoke zarathustra part II). What he's stating here is that marriage is and must be a choice by the two individuals to create a new entity that is greater then each of the individuals... this new entity is the couple. In forming the couple the two individuals must give up their individual will in favour of the couple's will. I agree with this completely. Once married, individuals need to give greater consideration to what is in the best interest of the combined couple then what is in the best interest of each of the individuals. If each person always acts in the best interest of the couple then the marriage will be a success and both partners will share in that success and happyness. As soon as one of the partners puts their will above the best interest of the couple then the marriage suffers. |
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| Originally posted by Moral Hazard nigga please... that idiot wouldn't, nay couldn't, be quite so elequent or relevent... and certainly he couldn't possibly understand Nietzsche. If it were Dr. Phil talking he would have said something more like this..... "Ya'll can't be behaving like you're single. Ya can't win a tug of war if everybody on the team is pulling the rope in different directions. Fruit salad ain't a salad unless it's all in one cup, the way ya'll are acting yer just peachs and pineapples in different bowls." |
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| Originally posted by gehzumteufel ROFL and mr hazard its ELOQUENT not ELEQUENT. |
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| Originally posted by Moral Hazard We all know I fail at spelling |
Re: Getting married
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| Originally posted by Lira I do like my girlfriend a lot |
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| Originally posted by Lira I'm probably going to live in Japan for a year in September |
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| Originally posted by gehzumteufel although it is still very important to have your time away from each other too. ie have your own groups of friends and doing things with them without your so. ROFL and mr hazard its ELOQUENT not ELEQUENT. |
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| Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY yes its very important, but when u do that, one of u will always get jealous eventually and all hell breaks loose...this marriage thing just doesn't work anymore these days. Its bad enough having a girlfriend/boyfriend living with u, and not having a legal agreement where u can walk away easily |
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| Originally posted by gehzumteufel not true. if they are spending a healthy amount of time with their so/fiancee/wife then it will not be a problem. also if it is a healthy marriage it wont be a problem as they talk to each other and also let each other know what is bothering them. if your getting jealous then there is a communication problem. and we all know communication is key to a healthy marriage. |
it depends on the people i think, but yea having time apart and separate hobbies is a pretty good thing. my last relationship was like that. it ended for other reasons, but as far as the topic being discussed here, i had no problem going out with my group of friends while he went out with his group of friends and i honestly wouldn't give him a thought the entire night. i actually went out and was able to have fun and do my own thing because i completely trusted him and knew he was behaving, as was i. i think when couples can't do that, it's because of trust issues.
but we were also perfectly content spending an entire weekend together attached at the hip without ever bickering or arguing. my partner has to be my best friend before anything. i never understood couples, or actually men who insist on keeping their wife or girlfriend separate from their other life or separate from their friends. it's like, why are u guys together and spening your life together if u can't even have the same crew of friends or the same interests, etc...?
it's healthy to have girls and guys night out or even separate vacations and stuff, but there should be a happy medium.
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| Originally posted by Moral Hazard I have to agree... Mrs. Hazard and I spend a respectable amount of time apart from each other. This is a good thing, as it affords us much in the way of conversation material. The key is to ensure neither party feels as though they are receiving insufficient attention from the other. As long as both persons want time apart and the time apart does not overshadow the time together then all will be well. |
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| Originally posted by Slylee it depends on the people i think, but yea having time apart and separate hobbies is a pretty good thing. my last relationship was like that. it ended for other reasons, but as far as the topic being discussed here, i had no problem going out with my group of friends while he went out with his group of friends and i honestly wouldn't give him a thought the entire night. i actually went out and was able to have fun and do my own thing because i completely trusted him and knew he was behaving, as was i. i think when couples can't do that, it's because of trust issues. but we were also perfectly content spending an entire weekend together attached at the hip without ever bickering or arguing. my partner has to be my best friend before anything. i never understood couples, or actually men who insist on keeping their wife or girlfriend separate from their other life or separate from their friends. it's like, why are u guys together and spening your life together if u can't even have the same crew of friends or the same interests, etc...? it's healthy to have girls and guys night out or even separate vacations and stuff, but there should be a happy medium. |
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