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Posted by basvh on Jun-27-2007 12:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Aristronica
your career is straight until you do something like this -



Haha Sven, crazy crazy. Still doing afters while being in his 40ties.


Posted by grandmaster on Jun-27-2007 20:03:

Dj's are musicians. As long as they are able to make or play music that people want to hear, then they will continue to play. The demographic of the crowds will differ between the older dj's and the newer ones, but there will still be a crowd. I'm still going to see my favorite dj's as long as they're playing.


Posted by DJMaytag on Jun-28-2007 04:35:

PVD ought to be the reference, since he's been huge since at least 1992 if not longer, AND he's been doing the same thing the whole time (well, trance, but trance has changed so much in 15 years). Oakenfold should be considered as well, love him or hate him.


Posted by Az on Jun-28-2007 04:42:

quote:
Originally posted by DJMaytag
PVD ought to be the reference, since he's been huge since at least 1992 if not longer, AND he's been doing the same thing the whole time (well, trance, but trance has changed so much in 15 years). Oakenfold should be considered as well, love him or hate him.

the idiocy in this post astounds me.

I'm just going to say Francois Kervokian, 53 and still amazing


Posted by Clovis on Jun-28-2007 05:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Az
the idiocy in this post astounds me.

I'm just going to say Francois Kervokian, 53 and still amazing



+1, even Sasha's been spinning since 89'


Posted by DJMaytag on Jun-28-2007 12:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
+1, even Sasha's been spinning since 89'


super, doesn't mean he's been a GLOBAL superstar since 89 though (that's when Sasha STARTED). I hadn't heard of him until 1996 and didn't even know he was a DJ then (first time I'd heard of him was "Be As One" on a Deconstruction CD compilation). I had heard of Digweed as early as 1994 though (Journeys By DJ's Vol. 4).

PVD OTOH, was playing the world by 1992 (hitting the States in 1993... when did Sasha & Digweed do that? 1996/1997?). Look at the last 15 years, who else has sustained a career at the level of PVD and Oakie in that same time?


Posted by Az on Jun-28-2007 15:21:

quote:
Originally posted by DJMaytag


PVD OTOH, was playing the world by 1992 (hitting the States in 1993... when did Sasha & Digweed do that? 1996/1997?). Look at the last 15 years, who else has sustained a career at the level of PVD and Oakie in that same time?

francois kervorkian


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jun-28-2007 16:11:

quote:
Originally posted by DJMaytag
super, doesn't mean he's been a GLOBAL superstar since 89 though (that's when Sasha STARTED). I hadn't heard of him until 1996 and didn't even know he was a DJ then (first time I'd heard of him was "Be As One" on a Deconstruction CD compilation). I had heard of Digweed as early as 1994 though (Journeys By DJ's Vol. 4).

PVD OTOH, was playing the world by 1992 (hitting the States in 1993... when did Sasha & Digweed do that? 1996/1997?). Look at the last 15 years, who else has sustained a career at the level of PVD and Oakie in that same time?


Sasha was on the first cover of Mixmag, and his and Diggers' Renaissance mix was one of the first major DJ mixed compilations. Both were much more famous than Paul Van Dyk at the time, even if you hadn't heard of them. I don't see any evidence that PVD was a "global superstar" in any form in the early 90s.


Posted by PETRAN on Jun-29-2007 01:50:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Sasha was on the first cover of Mixmag, and his and Diggers' Renaissance mix was one of the first major DJ mixed compilations. Both were much more famous than Paul Van Dyk at the time, even if you hadn't heard of them. I don't see any evidence that PVD was a "global superstar" in any form in the early 90s.





Sasha and Diggers were no more famous then PVD back in the early 90s IMO. They were maybe known in U.K.'s EDM/Clubbing community but thats all about it really, in much the same way Paul Van Dyk was famous in the trance circles as both a producer and DJ. EDM was much more underground those days. Yes, you got the famous names like Prodigy, Underworld and Orbital but these were far away from the "global superstar" think, at least as we mean it today.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jun-29-2007 01:53:

quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
Sasha and Diggers were no more famous then PVD back in the early 90s IMO. They were maybe known in U.K.'s EDM/Clubbing community but thats all about it really, in much the same way Paul Van Dyk was famous in the trance circles as both a producer and DJ. EDM was much more underground those days. Yes, you got the famous names like Prodigy, Underworld and Orbital but these were far away from the "global superstar" think, at least as we mean it today.


Mixmag and Renaissance are both global brands, and even when they were more localised in the early 90s, what German equivalent did PVD feature for?


Posted by PETRAN on Jun-29-2007 02:07:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Mixmag and Renaissance are both global brands, and even when they were more localised in the early 90s, what German equivalent did PVD feature for?





Ehmmm countless trance and techno compilaitons like trance-master, raver-master, techno-master, whatever-master, trance europe express, trance nation,tran ce-this, techno-that, MFS compilations etc. etc. etc. Too many to remember. His name was heavily featured in techno and trance compilations, more then sasha and digweed (since the last ones were not even producers). Sasha and Digweed were probably just (well?)-known DJs in the UK. Nothing more nothing less.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jun-29-2007 02:29:

quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
Ehmmm countless trance and techno compilaitons like trance-master, raver-master, techno-master, whatever-master, trance europe express, trance nation,tran ce-this, techno-that, MFS compilations etc. etc. etc. Too many to remember.


None of these equate to the Renaissance Mix, which was the first DJ mixed compilation to recieve a Gold disc for sales. Obscure little compilations lost in the mists of times do not compare.

I also ask you to equate something to front-covering Mixmag.

quote:
His name was heavily featured in techno and trance compilations, more then sasha and digweed (since the last ones were not even producers)


Actually, Sasha had two Top 20 hits in the UK pop charts in the early 90s. Both artists also featured regularly on the Essential Mix- a peaktime broadcast on Radio 1.

Alongside Oakenfold, they were probably the most well-known DJs of the early 90s.


Posted by DJMaytag on Jun-29-2007 13:41:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Alongside Oakenfold, they were probably the most well-known DJs of the early 90s.


If you look at that time period, you're probably talking about THE most well known DJ by far of the time being Sven Vath. Vath was so huge that there was him and then the rest... which is probably why many others like Sasha & Digweed had been overshadowed.


Posted by PETRAN on Jun-29-2007 21:02:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
None of these equate to the Renaissance Mix, which was the first DJ mixed compilation to recieve a Gold disc for sales. Obscure little compilations lost in the mists of times do not compare.

I also ask you to equate something to front-covering Mixmag.



Actually, Sasha had two Top 20 hits in the UK pop charts in the early 90s. Both artists also featured regularly on the Essential Mix- a peaktime broadcast on Radio 1.

Alongside Oakenfold, they were probably the most well-known DJs of the early 90s.




Radio 1, Mixmag...these are all UK brands/media. I doubt that anyone else in Europe knew anything about these media. Paul Van Dyk was not unknown. He was a quite good full-time producer and due to some of his productions, coupled with intense Djing activity got global exposure, at least to those target groups who were into techno and trance. He also mixed the first MFS compilation (first trance compilation?) X-MIX and many other techno and trance compilations like the Trancemaster series, which IMO were no obscure and little. They were quite famous back in the day. And anyway, Renaissance may received a "gold disc" award or whatever but, chill-out, that was just one compilation. It was not like the early 90s EDM Olympics or something...


But anyway, you know these pissing competitions are very boring and useless, since no one will ever come with some stats from the early 90s sales department.


Posted by Clovis on Jun-30-2007 01:09:

quote:
Originally posted by DJMaytag
super, doesn't mean he's been a GLOBAL superstar since 89 though (that's when Sasha STARTED). I hadn't heard of him until 1996 and didn't even know he was a DJ then (first time I'd heard of him was "Be As One" on a Deconstruction CD compilation). I had heard of Digweed as early as 1994 though (Journeys By DJ's Vol. 4).

PVD OTOH, was playing the world by 1992 (hitting the States in 1993... when did Sasha & Digweed do that? 1996/1997?). Look at the last 15 years, who else has sustained a career at the level of PVD and Oakie in that same time?



Re-read the thread title.


Posted by Andr�meda on Jun-30-2007 06:01:

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