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Alright.. My Review..

Preparty at my house with Jager to start the night.. We got to HOB at about 10:45 and Jimmy Joslin is dropping some heavy electro-breaks which the crowd was going wild to.. Took a few shots before muscling my way in the sardine can-dance floor..

Tiesto comes on stage at 11:30 and opens with 10 Seconds to Sunrise.. At this point I was very hopeful and excited.. He banged out some hardcore sh** for the first hour or so, dropping Break my fall, In the Dark, Adagio for Strings, Lethal Industry, Bright Morningstar and other favorites.. then in the middle of the set he drops an "intermission" or sorts, which totally kills the crowd, my buzz, and just about ended the show for me..

After that point he basically started the show over again with some really deep house/prog house shit that didn't belong there, which progressed for the last hour, with the only climax being He's a Pirate toward the end.. He ends his at 2am, which the crowd proceeds to cheer him out for an enocre.. Finally, the last track of the night he drops Platinum, something of what he should of played all night, but I am still so motherf***ing suprised he played it..

All in All.. Awesome Club Vibe, Amazing Crowd, Good Friends and Fans.. Trackselection was good for half the night.. but now all I want to see in Sander destroy main room at Space..

Good seeing Pimpis, Stan, Wilyruk and the other TA's also..

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Originally posted by Mattivi the only way you get your moneys worth with Tiesto these days is if he throws down an extended set where he cant whore out his own shitty tunes for the whole show.

^^ is why i think the Atlanta show will be different.. 5hr set, 5000 people convention center...

the music selection might be the same, but i feel the Atlanta show will be a much better overall vibe b/c of how huge the venue is and how they are making it a much bigger event with the huge video screens etc...

better track selection or not his technical abilities as a dj blow.

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Originally posted by Mattivi the only way you get your moneys worth with Tiesto these days is if he throws down an extended set where he cant whore out his own shitty tunes for the whole show. its been that way for over 2-3 years now. who wants to put money that he will follow ISOS6 with ISOS7 within six months? the guy is addicted to putting out shitty mixtapes and horrible artist albums. nyana was his last tolerable release cd, that was over four friggin years ago. jesus tijs, youve made your fortune, put on a decent set every now and again.

hey i fucking love isos6. i think he did a fucking awesome job on it. its not isos3 of course, but i cant stop jamming to it. i think he tried really hard on it and it shows.

WOW! the tracklist looks horrible...

01. Tiesto - Ten Seconds Before Sunrise
Tiesto ft BT - Break My Fall (Original Mix)
Tiesto ft Christian Burns - In The Dark (Original Mix)
Tiesto - Adagio For Strings (Original Mix)
Tiesto - Lethal Industry (Richard Durand Remix)
Tiesto - Bright Morningstar (Original Mix)
Tiesto - He's A Pirate (Album Version)
Daft Punk - Harder Faster Stronger (Deadmau5 Edit)
Maruo Picotto - Evribadi (Fonzerelli Remix)
Nenes & Pascal Feliz - Platinum (Oringal Mix)

that fucking terrible. worst tracklist ive seen from his US gigs so far.

You have enough brains to know its not finished, or a true reflection of what was played. I'm shocked by Evribadi creeping into the playlist but lol @ bitching his bad performance on knowing 1/3 of the unordered tracklist.

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Originally posted by infinitetrance .. then in the middle of the set he drops an "intermission" or sorts, which totally kills the crowd, my buzz, and just about ended the show for me..

what was that shit!!! i was at least enjoying myself and then i heard that i was like drink time... left my front row perfect spot for a shot.

A friend of mine who knows him said he was exhausted and incoherent tired. Im sure that played in to the whole night.

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Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd! You have enough brains to know its not finished, or a true reflection of what was played. I'm shocked by Evribadi creeping into the playlist but lol @ bitching his bad performance on knowing 1/3 of the unordered tracklist.

That tracklist is the 'highlight' of the night. I don't even want to see the other tracks and be reminded of what a pitiful selection it was, for fuck sakes.

i can see how you guys are jumpy when someone says something bad about tiesto but sooner or later you have to realize the utter garbage that he is. i use to think greatly of him 2 but now i know better.

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Originally posted by infinitetrance Alright.. My Review.. Preparty at my house with Jager to start the night.. We got to HOB at about 10:45 and Jimmy Joslin is dropping some heavy electro-breaks which the crowd was going wild to.. Took a few shots before muscling my way in the sardine can-dance floor.. Tiesto comes on stage at 11:30 and opens with 10 Seconds to Sunrise.. At this point I was very hopeful and excited.. He banged out some hardcore sh** for the first hour or so, dropping Break my fall, In the Dark, Adagio for Strings, Lethal Industry, Bright Morningstar and other favorites.. then in the middle of the set he drops an "intermission" or sorts, which totally kills the crowd, my buzz, and just about ended the show for me.. After that point he basically started the show over again with some really deep house/prog house shit that didn't belong there, which progressed for the last hour, with the only climax being He's a Pirate toward the end.. He ends his at 2am, which the crowd proceeds to cheer him out for an enocre.. Finally, the last track of the night he drops Platinum, something of what he should of played all night, but I am still so motherf***ing suprised he played it.. All in All.. Awesome Club Vibe, Amazing Crowd, Good Friends and Fans.. Trackselection was good for half the night.. but now all I want to see in Sander destroy main room at Space.. Good seeing Pimpis, Stan, Wilyruk and the other TA's also..

look forward to meeting you infinitetrance what time do u plan on arriving at space?

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Originally posted by Coastie look forward to meeting you infinitetrance what time do u plan on arriving at space?

Me, Wilyruk, and Diego are headed down to Miami early.. Hopefully we will be able to do a TA Meetup of some sorts before the show because I have still yet to meet everyone.. If I don't catch you before hand we should be at Space around 12...

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Originally posted by DiegoParra32 better track selection or not his technical abilities as a dj blow.

people, tiesto has never been known for his technical abilites. in fact he is on record saying that he is a "risky mixer" and that track selection is more part of his game. the thing that used to set tiesto apart from the rest of your euro trance djs was the "magik journey". what i mean from this was the set structure and track selection. the guy used to take you on journey with his sets.

he ALMOST never does that anymore, i dare to say there might be only 1-2 gigs a year where he does it. its a damn shame. it used to be DJ Tiesto the DJ, now its just Tiesto, the artist and enertainer. what i notice now is that he tries to appease the noob masses at most sets with cheesy hits from Just Be and more of the newer cheese bombs he has put out, and than btween alll the wack tracks he will mix in a real track to try to appease and really TEASE the older fans, who for whatever havent moved on and realized he is 95percent garbage now.

he really just has to make a simple choice, spin for the noobs, or spin for the real music heads. quit all this vacillating bullshit and just admit that you are a full blown commercial pop dj, and not a real dj in the sense of you what once were. or if you want to be real dj again, quit spinning with a traveling circus at theatres and concert halls, and come back to clubs and music festivals, like a real dj does. make a choice, because your not fooling me. be a dj or be pop. dont try to please both sides, because its not working and you can feel the vibe here on TA, for what three to four years? he has totally alienated his original fanbase that brought him the fame in the first place. make a choice tijs.

what i meant is at least the basic shit. i've listened toa few of his old sets and his beatmatching was on spot and sometimes he was doing some interesting in key phrase matching. so what i mean is that before he at least had the basics down, now his sets sounds like nothing different than what someone who used virtual dj to record a set sound like.

If Tiesto is phrase matching, it is by accident.

He spins from instinct, not from technical knowledge like some like Buuren.

haha, it probably was lol

mattivi said it to the TEE!!! Tiesto used to take you on a journey. where even if you werent emotional you became that way ... through structure and track selection. Its sad that he has let that aside only to please the mainstream. I hope that one day he will realize that he has set all that aside and will come back to it. Until then im not paying more than 40 to see him ever again.

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Originally posted by raverchikadee Until then im not paying more than 40 to see him ever again.

it's the set length (and location, though the two are usually commensurate), not the price, that should be the determinant metric.

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Originally posted by Konijn it's the set length (and location, though the two are usually commensurate), not the price, that should be the determinant metric.

actually it should be the "bang for the buck." At the very least the utility you get from attending the event should be equal to the dollar value you spent.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 actually it should be the "bang for the buck." At the very least the utility you get from attending the event should be equal to the dollar value you spent.

the "bang for the buck" is determined by the variables Konijn listed. If you have a long set, in a decent city, you don't need to worry about getting your "bang" it'll be there at some point over the 5-6 hours.

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Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd! the "bang for the buck" is determined by the variables Konijn listed. If you have a long set, in a decent city, you don't need to worry about getting your "bang" it'll be there at some point over the 5-6 hours.

So if he plays for 24 hours straight he is bound to play something good at some point

And for that he will only charge the venue a million and litter the crowd with 23 hours of COMPLETE CRAP compared to 1 hour of good stuff

And Miami is a decent city, where Tiesto has sucked ass 3 straight times, including WMC. So again you are 100% wrong

So quit making excuses for the clown, Tiesto went to complete shit, with flat-liner no energy crap sets all around, end of story, period. GET OVER IT

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Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd! the "bang for the buck" is determined by the variables Konijn listed. If you have a long set, in a decent city, you don't need to worry about getting your "bang" it'll be there at some point over the 5-6 hours.

Chris i agree with what you and nick are saying, but from the tracklist you guys have recently compiled, the sets really look pretty damn lame. Usually the first half to 3/4 quarters of set is comprised of insipid artist tracks from Just Be and EOL, and other abhorrent tracks like "Hes a Pirate" or "Dance for Life" and some new inane remix of an older classic, ie Lethal IndustryVIII, etc. its as predictable as a june shower. than as the noobs clear the concert hall to get home in time for curfew than he will bang out some decent tunes with proper tech stompers and occassionally go on a tear.


The thing is before putting out two albums a month became the tour de force, and subsequently going on the ensuing promotional tour for that album; he used to just tour, the old fashioned way. no new albums, no concerts, no circus, no win over the planet aspirations. and when you saw him it was just magik, and you didnt have to worry that if you saw him for 5-6 hours, there would be a little bite size morsel for you towards the end, or middle, or whatever. you used to get the whole damn cookie, you got the bang for your buck the whole show. that means if he spun for 5-6hours or even 2-3, he only whored out one of his own productions at like a clip of 1 per hour. it was a beautiful thing.

now when i see a tracklist of his its pretty much just tiestos greatest hits and the latest cheese list. its disgusting.
dont get me wrong it would be disingenuous to think that tijs or anyone else wouldnt throw in a few of his own tracks into a set, new or old, but to dilute 75% with it?! totally unnecessary.

another thing i find disconcerting is his recent habit of cutting his gigs short, the Atlanta gig was advertised to be five hours, instead he played 3-4, he should be ashamed of himself. personally i wouldnt tolerate such bait n switch tactics, i find this to be totally unscrupulous behavior. and i dont want to hear it was the promoters fault, as im sure team tiesto has a hand in any promotions for these EOL events that go out. dont promise what you cant deliver, its misrepresentation and catergorically dishonest.

at any rate, i give you guys over at tiesto tracklist your props, despite all the crap you remain ardent fans is a true testament of loyalty and fandom.

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Originally posted by av1 So if he plays for 24 hours straight he is bound to play something good at some point And for that he will only charge the venue a million and litter the crowd with 23 hours of COMPLETE CRAP compared to 1 hour of good stuff And Miami is a decent city, where Tiesto has sucked ass 3 straight times, including WMC. So again you are 100% wrong So quit making excuses for the clown, Tiesto went to complete shit, with flat-liner no energy crap sets all around, end of story, period. GET OVER IT

as much as i hate to admit it, your pretty much on the money.

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Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd! If Tiesto is phrase matching, it is by accident. He spins from instinct, not from technical knowledge like some like Buuren.

now that has got to be the funniest post of the year maybe decade.

If you're saying that Armin is a technical DJ then you just failed...If you wanna talk technical and good it would have been better for you to say Markus Schulz by a fucking LONG shot and even PvD.

Armin might be more technical than Tijs but he doesn't have this knowledge you speak of.

wow now that was just amusing.

Liz i think he was being a bit sarcastic if there is anyone who knows the art of djing and edm its chris

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Originally posted by Mattivi as much as i hate to admit it, your pretty much on the money.

Y'know Neil i was thinking yesterday and couldnt it be the fact that Tiesto plays at really trendy venues for the most part nowadays???
I mean i think that if Tiesto played Space or Nocturnal and it wasnt one of his theatric shows then i bet he would do some serious damage.He does know how to select the sick tech trance that made him famous.(Trust me when i say im not a fan of Tiesto or even 95% of trance for that matter)
However, from what i see on other file sharing websites that i frequent,Tiesto doesnt really record many sets.This leads me to believe or give a semblance of belief, that he may still be able to rock the more underground venues that he makes extra provisions not to have recorded like i've herd on other file sharing websites forums.
Just wnated to give out some hope to all trancers.Thats what i do around here.

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