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Originally posted by Trancer-X To be honest, there really doesn't need to be much more explaining. This all has been said and expounded upon literally hundreds or thousands of times but all of the people who are living in a bubble (most everyone) are still too busy trying to decide whether or not it's legitimate or not to make any kind of dent in the steamroller that's about to roll over all of our a$$es.

Haha, so how are you going to educate us if you refuse to explain anything? You are pure comedic gold my friend. The guy asked a legitimate question and you flat-out refused to answer it.

Documentary: CIA Covert Ops and Military Interventions Since WWII

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Originally posted by Trancer-X I guess one of my reasons is because they're admittedly part of the cabal that's trying to take over the world.

I got the rest of the quote.

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memoirs pg 405 The anti-Rockefeller focus of these otherwise incompatible political positions owes much to populism. "Populists," believe in conspiracies, and one of the most enduring is that a secret group of international bankers and capitalists, and their minions, control the world's economy. Because of my name and prominence as the head of the Chase for many years. I have earned the distinction of "conspirator in chief" from some of these people.

I have been reading the book and I have to believe that he isn't planning anything other than a world with free trade which leads to more money for the majority of the people. You are aware that is a good thing, right?

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru I got the rest of the quote. I have been reading the book and I have to believe that he isn't planning anything other than a world with free trade which leads to more money for the majority of the people. You are aware that is a good thing, right?

Considering much of what the Rockefeller's enterprises have done in the past, I sincerely doubt that they are at all interested in anything that really helps people, let alone the majority of them.

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru I got the rest of the quote. I have been reading the book and I have to believe that he isn't planning anything other than a world with free trade which leads to more money for the majority of the people. You are aware that is a good thing, right?

Did you finish reading Rockefeller's book?

Jesse Ventura: "The Secret Government"

Part I


Part II

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Originally posted by Trancer-X Did you finish reading Rockefeller's book?

Yes.

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru Yes.

Were there any new revelations?

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Originally posted by Trancer-X Were there any new revelations?

no, he is not a dangerous person at all. just a freak caused by his childhood/parents.

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru no, he is not a dangerous person at all. just a freak caused by his childhood/parents.

And you managed to deduce that simply from reading his book? lol

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"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and communism under the same tent, all under their control. Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent." - Congressman Larry Patton McDonald

Larry P. McDonald debating with Pat Buchanan
and Tom Braden on Crossfire in May of 1983:

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"Everything is in place - after 500 years - to build a true 'new world' in the Western Hemisphere." - David Rockefeller, A Hemisphere in the Balance, Wall Street Journal, October 1, 1993 pg. A-10

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Originally posted by Trancer-X ...create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and communism under the same tent... - Congressman Larry Patton McDonald

dumbest thing ive ever read.

Norman Dodd, chief investigator on the Special Committee on Tax Exempt Foundations (Reece Committee) definitely seems to agree with Congressman McDonald in this 1983 interview

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excerpted from the transcript: ED GRIFFIN: How would you describe the motivation of the people who created the foundations, the big foundations, in the very beginning? What was their motivation? NORMAN DODD: Their motivation? Well, let's take Mr. Carnegie as an example. He has publicly declared that his steadfast interest was to counteract the departure of the colonies from Great Britain. He was devoted to just putting the pieces back together again. ED GRIFFIN: Would that have required the collectivism that they were dedicated to? NORMAN DODD: No, no, no. These policies, the foundations� allegiance to these un-American concepts, are all traceable to the transfer of the funds into the hands of trustees, Mr. Griffin. It's not the men who had a hand in the creation of the wealth that led to the endowment for what we would call public purposes. ED GRIFFIN: It's a subversion of the original intent, then? NORMAN DODD: Oh, yes, completely, and that�s how it got into the world traditionally of bankers and lawyers. ED GRIFFIN: How do you see that the purpose and direction of the major foundations has changed over the years to the present? What is it today? NORMAN DODD: Oh, it�s a hundred percent behind meeting the cost of education such as it is presented through the schools and colleges of the United States on the subject of our history as proving our original ideas to be no longer practicable. The future belongs to collectivistic concepts, and there's just no disagreement on that. ED GRIFFIN: Why do the foundations generously support Communist causes in the United States? NORMAN DODD: Well, because to them, Communism represents a means of developing what we call a monopoly, that is, an organization of, say, a large-scale industry into an administerable unit. ED GRIFFIN: Do they think that they will be the ones to benefit? NORMAN DODD: They will be the beneficiaries of it, yes.

Here's some more on the Reece Committee's (and other related) findings:

http://www.oldthinkernews.com/Artic...e_committee.htm

http://www.garynorth.com/products/item9.cfm

http://www.capitalresearch.org/news/news.html?id=213

http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/regionalism/dodd.htm

http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/2340361

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The Reece Committee learned that the Rockefeller Foundation and Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, were, with tax-exempt dollars, funding leftist propaganda operations, aimed at changing America through the brain, not the battlefield. Patriotism, national sovereignty, individual responsibility, and Christian beliefs were belittled while the concepts of a one world government, socialism, collectivism and humanism were deemed essential for peace in the modern age. Although not included in the text of the record of the congressional hearings, it was during the course of the hearings that the President of the Ford Foundation, Rowan Gaither, summoned Norman Dodd, the Research Director for the Reece Committee�s Investigation, to New York City. During the course of their meeting Gaither said: "Mr. Dodd, all of us here at the policy making level of the foundation have at one time or another served in the OSS (the Office of Strategic Services, the forerunner of the CIA) or the European Economic Administration, operating under directives from the White House. We operate under those same directives� The substance of the directives under which we operate is that we shall use our grant making power to so alter life in the United States that we can be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union." http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.co...ew_Year_06.html

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One of the most sophisticated pieces of right-wing muckraking in this era was undertaken by the Reece Committee of the House to investigate tax-exempt foundations during 1953�54. Staffed by such leading conservatives as attorney Ren� Wormser (brother of Felix E. Wormser, Eisenhower�s Secretary of Interior) and Norman Dodd, the Reece Committee zeroed in on alleged Communist and also liberal and socialist tie-ins with the large foundations: Rockefeller, Carnegie, Ford, etc. http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/betrayal/10.html

What they're doing definitely sounds a lot like Fabian Socialism to me.



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Dear love, couldst though and I with fate conspire To grasp this sorry scheme of things entire Would we not shatter it to bits, and then Remould it nearer to the heart's desire!

You have to love the wolf in sheep's clothing

i used to be a bit of a socialist back in the day, if there's really a fabian socialist conspiracy for world domination i might want to sign up to help. where do i get an application form?

The Rise of the National Security State: FEMA and the NSC

by Diana Reynolds

CIVIL SECURITY PLANNING
Since WWII, the U.S. government has had contingency plans in preparation for a large scale disaster or attack. However, during the last twenty-five years--beginning with civil unrest at the height of the Vietnam War--the government's plans have increasingly on focused ways of controlling political dissent.

On October 30, 1969 President Richard Nixon issued Executive Order 11490, "Assigning Emergency Preparedness Functions to Federal Departments and Agencies," which consolidated some 21 operative Executive Orders and two Defense Mobilization Orders issued between 1951 and 1966 on a variety of emergency preparedness matters.

In 1976 President Gerald Ford ordered the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency (FEPA) to develop plans to establish government control of the mechanisms of productions and distribution of energy sources, wages and salaries, credit and the flow of money in American financial institutions in any (heretofore undefined) "national emergency." This Executive Order (EO 11921) also indicated that, when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress could not review the matter for a period of six months.

Even arch-conservative activist Howard J. Ruff was quick to point out that, since the enactment of EO 11490, "The only thing standing between us and a dictatorship is the good character of the President and the lack of a crisis severe enough that the public would stand still for it."

While Ruff thought a national emergency might be used to destroy the free markets in the U.S. and take away the C.B. radios and guns of Americans, was alarmed for more rational and obvious reasons. In an editorial, the paper repeated Ruff's warning:[list]"Executive Order No. 11490 is real, and only the lack of a crisis big enough, a president willing enough, and a public aroused enough to permit it to be invoked, separates us from a possible dictatorship, brought about under current law, waiting to be implemented in the event of circumstances which can be construed as a `national emergency.'"/list]
President Carter evidently did not share this concern and, [in 1979], he signed Executive Order 12148 which created the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to replace the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency. This Presidential Directive mandated an interface between the Department of Defense (DOD) and FEMA for civil defense planning and funding.

When Ronald Reagan came to power he gave FEMA vastly expanded executive emergency powers and appointed retired National Guard General Louis O. Giuffrida as his "emergency czar." Giuffrida's creation of contingency emergency plans to round up "militant negroes" while he was at the Naval War College caught the attention of then-Governor of California Reagan and his executive secretary Edwin Meese III.

As Governor, Reagan called on Giuffrida to design Operation Cable Splicer. Cable Splicer I, II and III were martial law plans to legitimize the arrest and detention of anti-Vietnam war activists and other political dissidents.

In 1971, Governor Reagan, with a $425,000 grant from the Federal Law Enforcement Assistance Administration, established a counterterrorism training center--the California Specialized Training Institute (CSTI)--and made Giuffrida its commandant.

Shortly after he assumed the directorship of FEMA in 1981, Giuffrida had flooded high-level FEMA posts with friends from CSTI and the military police, had created a Civil Security Division of FEMA, and had established a Civil Defense Training Center in Emmitsburg, Maryland--based on the CSTI model. By 1984, the Center had trained one thousand civil defense personnel in survival techniques, counterterrorism and military police methods.

From February to July of 1982, President Reagan signed a series of National Security Decision Directives (NSDD)--presidential decisions on national security objectives--on civil defense policy and emergency mobilization preparedness. While Reagan's real U.S. civil defense policy is contained in the classified NSDD 26, some of the law enforcement and public safety provisions of the policy are made public in NSDD 47. This National Security Decision Directive provides for an intensified counterintelligence effort at home and the maintenance of law and order in a variety of emergencies, particularly terrorist incidents, civil disturbances, and nuclear emergencies.

Reagan gave the National Security Council (NSC) authority over the planning for civil defense policy with its expanded civil security powers. He mandated the creation of a senior-level interdepartmental board, the Emergency Mobilization Preparedness Board (EMPB), and charged it with responsibilities for policy and planning guidance, coordination of planning, resolution of issues, and monitoring progress.

The members of the EMPB were the Assistant for National Security Affairs (as its Chair), the DOD's Secretary of Defense for Policy, the Director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and representatives from 10 other federal agencies. FEMA provided the staff, support secretariat and operational supervision for the EMPB and their working group on civil defense. According to then Secretary of Defense Caspar W. Weinberger, by February 1983, the EMPB had prepared--and the President had approved--a national policy statement on emergency mobilization preparedness.

Oliver North served on the EMPB, having been assigned there from 1982 to 1984 by former National Security Advisor Robert McFarlane. General Giuffrida was there too, providing operational supervision. By forming the EMPB, Ronald Reagan made it possible for a small group of people, under the authority of the NSC, to wield enormous power. They, in turn, used this executive authority to change civil defense planning into a military/police version of civil security.

http://www.publiceye.org/liberty/fema/Fema_2.html

10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists
A useful guide by Donna Ferentes

addendum: A person who always says the same thing, and says it over and over again is, of course, commonly considered to be, if not a monomaniac, then at very least, a bore.

Study your history

"This [Federal Reserve Act] establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President [Wilson} signs this bill, the invisible government of the monetary power will be legalized....the worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill."

- Congressman Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr., 1913



"In the united States we have, in effect, two governments. We have the duly constituted Government. Then we have an independent, uncontrolled and uncoordinated government in the Federal Reserve System, operating the money powers which are reserved to Congress by the Constitution."

- Congressman Wright Patman, Chairman of the House Banking & Currency Committee
(From a speech on the House floor, 1967)

How can one so passively forget that Standard Oil/Esso/Exxon and the Bush family were invested in Hitler's rise to power?

Of course Rockefeller and Co. has ulterior motives, how could you think otherwise? Do your fockin' history.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN for the 1,377,337th time 10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists A useful guide by Donna Ferentes addendum: A person who always says the same thing, and says it over and over again is, of course, commonly considered to be, if not a monomaniac, then at very least, a bore.

Are you being ironic?

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} Are you being ironic?

Nah it's just ignorance, coupled with some retarded list that is regarding as a bible from a JREF forum.

Trolls will be trolls.

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Originally posted by culorut Nah it's just ignorance, coupled with some retarded list that is regarding as a bible from a JREF forum. Trolls will be trolls.

Aye. In my defense, I was being ironic.

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Originally posted by Trancer-X "This [Federal Reserve Act] establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President [Wilson} signs this bill, the invisible government of the monetary power will be legalized....the worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill." - Congressman Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr., 1913

Charles Lindbergh's - September 11, 1941 Des Moines Speech

Charles Lindbergh's speech to the America First Committee on September 11, 1941
(same day as the ground-breaking ceremony for the Pentagon). Hidden history repeats!




As a correction to Charles Lindbergh's speech:

Bill Cooper - It's not the Jews

Ron Paul on the latest financial bailouts:

"It's done by secret government"

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