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Posted by oDrori on Oct-16-2002 15:51:

That's kinda hard to explain... You have beats and you have quarters of them. Now, in 6/8 (IE Scot Project - O), the beats (Kicks) go 1-2-3-4, but the quartes (inside every kick there are 3) go 1-2-3 1-2-3.

For easier difference listen to (Once more a warm recommendation)
Miss Thunderpussy vs. The Club Invaders - Mirage

Posted by Xenius on Oct-16-2002 16:34:

I'm not positive about exactly how to explain this, but maybe I could help.

For those of you who don't understand at all, listen to the already recommended Club Invaders vs Miss Thunderpussy song. In the very beggining you hear what you is a standard 4/4 beat right? Then listen to the snare as it comes in. Doesn't sound like it matches a 4/4 pattern does it?

I don't think what I said will help you understand, because I don't entirely, but I hope it helps you see the difference.

BTW, this thread is cool as shit.

Posted by Survion on Oct-16-2002 17:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Xenius
I'm not positive about exactly how to explain this, but maybe I could help.

For those of you who don't understand at all, listen to the already recommended Club Invaders vs Miss Thunderpussy song. In the very beggining you hear what you is a standard 4/4 beat right? Then listen to the snare as it comes in. Doesn't sound like it matches a 4/4 pattern does it?

I don't think what I said will help you understand, because I don't entirely, but I hope it helps you see the difference.

BTW, this thread is cool as shit.

ok, i listened to this Thunderpussy song and now i know about what you are talking about. GOT IT! Now this makes me happy!!

Thanks for your explanation!

Posted by dj_mdma on Oct-16-2002 18:30:

DJ Scot Project - 0 (arome remix), the actual main synth sound is following a 6/8 rhythm against the 4/4 bass beat.

If the synth was following a 3/4 time rhythm against the 4/4 rhythm, it wouldnt work, as the sequence would be going slower than the beat and eventually lag behind. If it was a 3/4 beat, the sequence would ,match the 4/4 beat but the sound would lag behind, so after 16 beats (4 lots of 4 beats), the 3/4 sequence would have progressed 12 beats. Therefore, to catch up, it has adopted the 6/8 rhythm.

As a classically trained musician in both violin and piano I thought "A thread where i can contribute my life long learning!"

Its complicated, but once u know what u r listening for, then u find many subtle tings like this embedded into the music. E.g in 0 (again), the main cymbal synth is syncopated against the bass drum. I.e the symbal sound is immediately after the bass drum, but still remains in time.

Posted by Xenius on Oct-16-2002 19:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Survion
ok, i listened to this Thunderpussy song and now i know about what you are talking about. GOT IT! Now this makes me happy!!

Thanks for your explanation!

Glad I could help!

Now if only I could completely understand, not just hear the difference.

Posted by oDrori on Oct-16-2002 22:20:

I think I have a really good diea on it, but to completely understand, you need a few years of Music theory...

Posted by oDrori on Dec-26-2002 15:30:

Check out this track:

Master and Servant - Dreaming

It does a nice use of 6/8 synths over a 4/4 beat!

::edit::

This isn't relesed yet but 4X4 - Indigo also does the same use of 6/8 on 4/4!

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