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Posted by winston on Aug-29-2007 19:43:

quote:
Originally posted by progressiveMOJO
it's still no reason to waste money on a shit event. I'd rather just go to sleep and save the $60 on tickets/drinks/parking, or watch a movie, or play video games, or hundreds of other things. Saying "well nothing else is happening tonight" is still terrible logic.


yeah me too, I'm on this page right now.

I have my list of events planned, I can't wait to hear Animal Collective instead of A________ C__E.

There. Die.


Posted by shaw on Aug-29-2007 19:44:

quote:
Originally posted by progressiveMOJO
it's still no reason to waste money on a shit event. I'd rather just go to sleep and save the $60 on tickets/drinks/parking, or watch a movie, or play video games, or hundreds of other things. Saying "well nothing else is happening tonight" is still terrible logic.


going out & spending a night socializing still has value. otherwise nightclubs wouldn't exist. after all, at the most basic level, superstar DJs serve no different a function than do crazy decorations or super-cheap drinks. they're all just ways to get more people to spend more money at a nightclub. Some people value different components of these nights more highly than others. Most people don't think of it as a concert that happens to be at a club.


Posted by shaw on Aug-29-2007 19:47:

quote:
Originally posted by diggerz
yeah me too, I'm on this page right now.

I have my list of events planned, I can't wait to hear Animal Collective instead of A________ C__E.

There. Die.


I have no clue as to what letters are missing, but I'll figure it out eventually.


Posted by winston on Aug-29-2007 19:48:

quote:
Originally posted by inconspicuous
I have no clue as to what letters are missing, but I'll figure it out eventually.


Good luck, britters


Posted by shaw on Aug-29-2007 19:49:

quote:
Originally posted by diggerz
Good luck, britters


My initial thought was "Aoki!" Then I was disappointed when I realized I couldn't count underscores...or read good.


Posted by evil2in87 on Sep-01-2007 21:19:

quote:
Originally posted by progressiveMOJO
it's still no reason to waste money on a shit event. I'd rather just go to sleep and save the $60 on tickets/drinks/parking, or watch a movie, or play video games, or hundreds of other things. Saying "well nothing else is happening tonight" is still terrible logic.


its all about having fun and enjoying yourself. if everyone had the same logic as you, every club would go outta business.


Posted by progressiveMOJO on Sep-01-2007 21:50:

quote:
Originally posted by evil2in87
its all about having fun and enjoying yourself. if everyone had the same logic as you, every club would go outta business.

no, if everyone had the same logic as I do, clubs would put a lot more effort into actually being fun places to go, "DJ's" like Tiesto would slowly stop getting booked, real musical talent would get better recognition, etc. It's called "competition," it generally motivates people to generate better products and services.


Posted by Aeryn on Sep-11-2007 00:09:

Dont waste your time

"Club Nasa" is a joke...the entire scene in Clear Lake is Hip Hop, and Houston follows closely behind. There is NO market for trance in the area...zero...ZILCH...NADA.
I have been in this area for the past 12 years, I was / am an avid raver, and I was actually contracted (thru the production company who started with the club) to play at "Club Nasa"...I wouldn't waste the gasoline it takes to get there. I wont even go into the diatribe concerning the owner of the club being a complete and utter money grubbing idiot.
Trust me when I say this..."There is NO trance scene anywhere within 100 miles of Houston"...I have been relentless in my search...I have attended virtually every major event that Houston has had to offer (Tiesto, Armin, Oakenfold, G&D, and various others) and have been repeatedly disappointed both in the quality of talent and every single venue to date. Houston is interested in ONE thing and one thing only...$$$! Clubs rape you with the admission fee (Anyone check out the scar-pricing on Van Dyk?)...drinks? lets not even go there...and parking in downtown Houston is a nightmare...but by far the largest complaint (i hear this one after every show I attend) is that club pack 200% capacity crowds in for every big name...it's hard to breathe, let alone dance when you have less than one square foot to move. (M-bar and Rich's come to mind)
In short, mes ami...H-town is down with the ghetto-ass bullshit called rap...and nothing else.
I fucking hate the scene here now...and I punish myself repeatedly by attending every show by a big name that I used to enjoy.
I'm not a hater...I just can't think of anything positive about being in Houston and enjoying electronica at the same time.

Aeryn


Posted by DJSpectre on Sep-11-2007 02:47:

Respect..Trance needs to florish in the town. It's my most favorite genre. I just moved into and I just started lookin for some gigs while i am living here anyone want to get a trance night on the go in for join in h town?


Posted by ksu1212 on Sep-11-2007 03:01:

Re: Dont waste your time

quote:
Originally posted by Aeryn
Trust me when I say this..."There is NO trance scene anywhere within 100 miles of Houston"...I have been relentless in my search...I have attended virtually every major event that Houston has had to offer (Tiesto, Armin, Oakenfold, G&D, and various others) and have been repeatedly disappointed both in the quality of talent and every single venue to date. Houston is interested in ONE thing and one thing only...$$$! Clubs rape you with the admission fee (Anyone check out the scar-pricing on Van Dyk?)...drinks? lets not even go there...and parking in downtown Houston is a nightmare...but by far the largest complaint (i hear this one after every show I attend) is that club pack 200% capacity crowds in for every big name...it's hard to breathe, let alone dance when you have less than one square foot to move. (M-bar and Rich's come to mind)
In short, mes ami...H-town is down with the ghetto-ass bullshit called rap...and nothing else.
I fucking hate the scene here now...and I punish myself repeatedly by attending every show by a big name that I used to enjoy.
I'm not a hater...I just can't think of anything positive about being in Houston and enjoying electronica at the same time.


i just want to say you are close to 100% right. i personally manage to have fun at every event i go to. i meet new people everytime i go out, i became good friends with a few and i have short conversations with others. and since clubbing here will never compare to clubbing abroad or on the american coasts, houston scene will have to do for now and i shall make the best of it while it lasts.

dj's performances here are less than stellar which is very unfortunate. i would like to see so many dj's who would far outperform any $30 cover charge on a wed. night with a first letter name starting with an A, P or a T. but i think houston promoters will be scratching their heads over that one. (not dissing the promoters here but i'm tired of seeing the usual suspects.)

cheers.


Posted by Aeryn on Sep-11-2007 03:44:

Too right

I have been involved with several "promotional" entities in and around the Houston area, and never have I been more frustrated than while trying project a more positive light on the talent that seems to be "the usual suspects". I got tired...yes...literally tired of seeing Oakenfold back then...SpaceGirl (who I later found out was a nobody even then) was a more likely attractive offering...The DJ's who really were something to behold were often pushed to the side of the plate, so to speak, in favor of more accessible (read that as cheaper?) fares. My first taste of something truly well thought out was a rave at which Kimball Collins performed (only a 30 minute set...due to a complaintive SpaceGirl wanting to play and then leave) and essentially tore the house down. I have rarely heard a rave crowd boo a DJ taking to the decks, but SpaceGirl had a lynch mob...not a dance-happy crowd.
That line of thought has permeated the conscious workings of the promoters/producers since I have been here. Money talks, and bullshit walks....and the unfortunate side effect of that line of thought is that what usually walks out is some of the best damned talents ever to grace a set of wheels.
I've seen (I think) every major name in the industry (at least once) and my personal collection of music spans every genre (not just electronic) and every decade...I am far from being a self-stylized critic of music, but having 5-10 people (In all honesty, this number is not far off the mark...Houston's promotional team seems to inbreed)repeatedly demonstrate their lack of taste and insight to the scene has become a tad tiresome. One names outshines them all, and I am sure you have heard of / read it elsewhere...This one man believes he is THE reason Houston has a scene at all...he thinks it has been by his herculean efforts alone, and his blood, sweat, and tears that every act that comes to Houston happens.
Sean Carnahan is quite possibly the single greatest arrogance in existence in this city. Having dealt with him directly for many months (back around the time "Transit" exploded all over channel 2) I understood what had been going on for some time...namely, Sean had found a way to exploit a very easy mark...and in turn...generate a tidy profit from it.
I don't know how he managed it, honestly I don't care...I consider him a morally and ethically base person...not to mention a shitty performance DJ in his own right...and yet he manages to "perform" at almost every big event.

In short, perseverance and hope have done shit for this city...and I expect it to only get worse.

Aeryn


Posted by shaw on Sep-11-2007 06:15:

oh boy.


Posted by davemolina on Sep-11-2007 14:18:

Wow, this is interesting.

For the record, its like that in every city.


Posted by jonas on Sep-11-2007 14:54:

Cory killed the scene in Houston. We can blame him


Posted by Zild on Sep-11-2007 15:14:

quote:
Originally posted by davemolina
Wow, this is interesting.

For the record, its like that in every city.


So true. I'm sure other parts of the world have a different system but around here shit is seriously fucked.


Posted by civicstyle on Sep-11-2007 16:56:

quote:
Originally posted by davemolina
Wow, this is interesting.

For the record, its like that in every city.


+564616844468716


Posted by davemolina on Sep-11-2007 17:27:

Also, don't blame the promoters too much. They just promote the shows they're given to work "from a higher power".


Posted by jonas on Sep-11-2007 17:47:

quote:
Originally posted by davemolina
Also, don't blame the promoters too much. They just promote the shows they're given to work "from a higher power".


The Catholic Church?


Posted by Matthias on Sep-14-2007 21:29:

quote:
Originally posted by DJSpectre
But you know what.. you got to support the trance community regardless.


I support talent.


Posted by davemolina on Sep-14-2007 21:30:

I agree with He-Man.


Posted by Zild on Sep-14-2007 22:08:

I also agree. That's like saying, 'this place makes really terrible tacos, but you have to support your local restraunt scene.' Fuck that restraunt hopefully they'll go bankrupt and then we can get some real messcan food.


Posted by civicstyle on Sep-15-2007 00:17:

But i love messican tacos from a shitty taco hut.


Posted by Carlos Pereira on Sep-15-2007 01:49:

quote:
Originally posted by racing4hoes
But i love messican tacos from a shitty taco hut.


Beto's Tacos La Cabrones Y Pendejos is the best.


Posted by civicstyle on Sep-15-2007 09:58:

quote:
Originally posted by architect1803
Beto's Tacos La Cabrones Y Pendejos is the best.



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