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Posted by eRRaTiK on Jul-24-2007 23:39:

u gotz da bling then u da king


Posted by cheshirepk8 on Jul-24-2007 23:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Inertia
we have math, language (verbal + literature), geography, sciences (chem, physics, biology) and history. its not REALLY an SAT, i'm just kind of comparing that. unis don't even see your score for it. all you have to do is pass. you take these once in the 8th grade, and once after you graduate HS. no chem or physics in the 8th grade though.

its a fucking joke tho. no one ever fails, unless they almost got everything wrong. schools look really bad if they have a high fail rate, so schools pay off the state most of the time. even still, the test just covers an uber-broad range of things, very generally. as long as you attended a few weeks of class in the year, you should get by on your own steam perfectly.


sounds like a combo of tests we have...

they started this horrible thing called the MCAS and all Massachusetts students need to pass it to graduate. You take it at different grades throughout... I think there are 3 or 4 times. 4th, 8th, 10th.

We have SAT II tests that are for specific subjects. Some of the top schools require at least one in addition to the regular SATs of verbal + math.

We also have the AP exams which if you get a high enough score you can skip a year in college...

Either way it sucks, i hate standardized testing.


Posted by Zild on Jul-24-2007 23:58:

You don't really skip a year. You just get the credits from the tests you passed. I think you'd have to pass 10 of the AP exams to equal a whole year of college. Roughly 30 hours worth. I think they only offered 4 or 5 at my high school. Can't really remember because they kicked me out before I could take the exams and then the next year I wrote a letter to the college board telling them their AP shit is a rip off.

I love standardized tests. Here in Texas you need to pass a test called the TAKS or some bullshit like that you need to pass to graduate, but I never took it because I went to private school. I've heard it is extremely easy.


Posted by verndogs on Jul-25-2007 00:06:

quote:
Originally posted by cheshirepk8
We also have the AP exams which if you get a high enough score you can skip a year in college...



just to clarify


If you have a high enough score on any of the AP Exams (depending on university), you are either waived from taking that class or you get a credit that counts toward your degree


Posted by Krypton on Jul-25-2007 00:17:

Fuck my $8000 tuition bill for one freaking year in school. I've read that in some countries, you can go to university for free. I just hope students have to pass an entrance exam, or each class would be filled with idiots.


Posted by Orbax on Jul-25-2007 00:20:

disclaimer: didnt read thread

they accept freshmen because they get paid by the state to which is why the over enroll. A counselor for a nice uni told me very politely that if I went to harvard and got a 4.0 for 2 years they wouldnt accept me into school because they wont get paid for it.


Posted by noikeee on Jul-25-2007 02:47:

Re: F*&% the university system.

quote:
Originally posted by squirrelly
Seriously.

Long story short - I attended a Uni in 2003 for a while, and then family stuff happened (deaths, illnesses) and I dropped out to take care of my family.

A few years later, I readmitted myself into school at a different school to continue my education and finished a degree.

Now, I was trying to get back into the original uni to further my education/get another degree, and I was DENIED readmittance! Even though I FINISHED a degree somewhere else, and managed to keep a VERY high GPA at the new school, the old one doesn't give a flying f*#$ to say the least.

F@#^ this crap! Why is it so damn hard to get an education in this f*&#ing country?!?!?!

If I worked my ass off to raise my gpa and finish a degree, proving that I've gotten my life back on track, why the hell can't I make my life even better by getting a higher degree?!


That really sucks, sorry for you.

So over there if you fail one year you get penalized afterwards? Damn. Over here the only thing that can happen is to lose your scholarship if you have one, otherwise people can fail the classes for as many years as they want, and still it won't affect them in the future as long as they get good grades when they finally pass the classes. Hell, I've met people in my uni who are taking a degree since 1992! The only requirement for taking a masters after having a regular degree, is to have a good average grade.

Of course even if you have a perfect average it always sounds better in a job interview to say you took 5 years to take your degree instead of 15 years..


Posted by Zewad on Jul-25-2007 02:53:

on the flip side...

the state of Florida Uni system by way of the GI Bill via the Army is giving me a full ride for my MBA...

w00t!!

Sara I'm sorry it's not working out for you...


Posted by Zild on Jul-25-2007 03:48:

Shit the least they can do is pay for your Masters. I would never take anything from the military. Recruiters always call me to talk, but I hang up on them.


Posted by verndogs on Jul-25-2007 17:07:

reapply or look into other schools

just because you got rejected from where you started college doesn't mean it's the end of the world

maybe, the school knew that you are more than qualified to come back in and finish your bachelor's degree but just didn't have the room to put you in. more and more students are attending college each year, so they don't have the resources to take on one extra student that will not be coming in.

either that, or you faced stiff competition for other candidates who applied for readmittance and/or transfer students.

just my theory


Posted by shaw on Jul-25-2007 17:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
That sucks. Here there is only math and verbal on the SATs. No chemistry.


as mentioned before, you have SAT IIs that are on specific subjects (physics, chemistry, languages, harder math, etc.). Most good schools require you to take at least a couple.


Posted by nchs09 on Jul-25-2007 20:51:

talkinga bout hating school



so we had to turn in some bullshit extra credit into our professor, so he just says "write blah blah blah" like bullet points and what not of 2 case studies.

so i do, and when we are turning it in he goes "what is this? written by hand? there are plently of computeres around the world and u couldnt use one?


so inside my head im like "shut up you poor son of a bitch" because somehow i feel he is poor, and his shitty attidude and search for aproval from students only means he is either:
a) a loser or
b) frustraded wanker who couldn't do anything better than teach at university (not saying all professors are frustraded because i have some who are fucking smart and i admire alot)



so he was like "turn it in tomorrow" so i send him a couple of emails that went like this

First email
quote:
hello, i asked you at the end of class if i could email you what i had
written by hand (the assignments) and you said no, to turn it in
tomorrow.

tomorrow i do not have to go to school, and i do live 45 minutes away.
i am about to type it at the moment. is it possible for me to turn it
in on Wed. (the day of the exam) that way i do not have to drive
almost 2 hours to turn it in.


if not that is ok, just let me know what time you will be at your
office tomorrow and i shall turn it in then. thanks


his response

quote:
ok!
See you then.

Dr. V.


i was like

so i sent him a second email

quote:
i am sorry, can you be more specific? see you then tomorrow or see you
then on wed?


and he replys

quote:
if you come on Campus tomorrow slide your paper under my office door.

thanks



is that clear to anyone? did he even answer my question?

so i turned it in today with my final and he throws a fit

"what is this?" and im like " the extra credit"

then he proceeds to talk to me like im his 5 year old about responsability.... so im like "hey im about to head out are you going to take it or not?"

he goes "where is ur name" ... fair enough i didnt have my name.

so i write it and then i turn it in and he goes "WHAT IS THIS.. NO DATE? NO CLASS? HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHEN U TURNED THIS IN AND WHAT CLASS ITS FOR"


so i turn around laughing, gather my stuff and go "if you want grade it, if you dont leave it" i could tell he was pissed as i left and a couple of poeple laughed.


Posted by noikeee on Jul-25-2007 21:44:

what a ****.


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