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Originally posted by gehzumteufel all of you saying no tip for bad service, your morons. no tip means your cheap. you leave a penny tip your insulting them.

true. if you don't leave any tip they might just think you forgot.. but if you leave $0.43, they have to know that they fucked up.

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Originally posted by l�cid true. if you don't leave any tip they might just think you forgot.. but if you leave $0.43, they have to know that they fucked up.

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Originally posted by Inertia policemen are in charge of UPHOLDING THE FRICKIN LAW. do they ask for tips? screw that man, those people get paid to do what they do. tipping should be completely my decision. it's amazing how society has programmed it so that for certain jobs, its courteous to give extra money. if i tip, it should be seen as fucking generous, or rewarding at the very least, not common or the norm.

Policeman get paid a salary with benefits. I thought we were referring to bartenders, waiteries/watiresses, valets people that jobs are based more on tips than a below minimum wage paycheck.

Ok maybe I misunderstood you. Yes tipping is up to you so???
Just don't skip the tip for no reason at all if your in a situation tipping might be the norm of how that person gets paid

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Originally posted by Trancealot Policeman get paid a salary with benefits. I thought we were referring to bartenders, waiteries/watiresses, valets people that jobs are based more on tips than a below minimum wage paycheck.

Excellent point.

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Originally posted by Trancealot Policeman get paid a salary with benefits. I thought we were referring to bartenders, waiteries/watiresses, valets people that jobs are based more on tips than a below minimum wage paycheck. Ok maybe I misunderstood you. Yes tipping is up to you so??? Just don't skip the tip for no reason at all if your in a situation tipping might be the norm of how that person gets paid

still, that shit comes with the job. i'm sorry, and while i DO tip, i still believe if it just comes out my ass not to leave a cent one day, there should be no shit said about it.

the tipping system is a scam

good example. I do valet at a catering hall. Typical party is 5 hrs and all I get for standing and doing nothing is 20$. Thats 4$/hrs but then as I park the cars the tips are what raise that 4$/hr to maybe 10/hr or even up to 20/hr at the end of the party. Excpet they will be other valets along with me so they will get their share because we would split b/w amount of valets so if people start giving nothing we are all f'd

simple

good job = tip
bad job = discretionable because I once went to a denny's and was about to walk out I waited about 1 hr for breakfast after taking our order. Finally got the food and left 1$ BEAUSE the service sucked ass.

it's a
dir-ty secret of e-co-no-my

The whole whiny "Well I only get 20 dollars for 4 hours of work!" argument bothers the capitalist in me.

Like it's supposed to be OUR duty to help you out because you can't go out and get a better paying job and earn more money. Fuck off with that.

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Originally posted by Trancealot good example. I do valet at a catering hall. Typical party is 5 hrs and all I get for standing and doing nothing is 20$. Thats 4$/hrs but then as I park the cars the tips are what raise that 4$/hr to maybe 10/hr or even up to 20/hr at the end of the party. Excpet they will be other valets along with me so they will get their share because we would split b/w amount of valets so if people start giving nothing we are all f'd

and the fact that you are fucked is a flaw in the tipping system, or the client's problem?

the fact of the matter is, the tipping system overpays workers in some respects, for work that is nowhere near worth that much, and in the cases of slow nights or unpopular businesses, fucks them over. well, not everything is pink and peachy, and if it benefits on one side, you can sure as hell expect it to fuck you over on the other.

i guess, if you don't like it, you shouldn't be in a job that's based on tips.

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Originally posted by jennypie The whole whiny "Well I only get 20 dollars for 4 hours of work!" argument bothers the capitalist in me. Like it's supposed to be OUR duty to help you out because you can't go out and get a better paying job and earn more money. Fuck off with that.

stop being such a jew.

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Originally posted by Inertia stop being such a jew.

Hahahaha.

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Originally posted by Inertia still, that shit comes with the job. i'm sorry, and while i DO tip, i still believe if it just comes out my ass not to leave a cent one day, there should be no shit said about it.

when does money comes out of your ass epscially penny's

without comparing and trying to look at this in a good way even if you don't tip for some odd reason whatever it might be the next person will tip so its all good. Hopefully make up for it

i could shit out a penny if i tried!

what i'm trying to say is, if NO ONE tipped, well, tough shit for the server. and that's all there is to it. most jobs don't pay you EXTRA for a job well done. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IT WELL! YES. YOU ARE. THERE. I SAID IT. AND I'M TYPING IN CAPS. ARE YOU AFRAID? HUH?! ARE YOU?!

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Originally posted by Inertia i could shit out a penny if i tried! what i'm trying to say is, if NO ONE tipped, well, tough shit for the server. and that's all there is to it. most jobs don't pay you EXTRA for a job well done. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IT WELL! YES. YOU ARE. THERE. I SAID IT. AND I'M TYPING IN CAPS. ARE YOU AFRAID? HUH?! ARE YOU?!

no one tipped lol damn that must be a person who is disgruntled atwhat they do.Reality sets in when that would never happen but when these people espcially me (valet) count their tips at the end of the shift it all even out and some nights are good(mostly weekends) and some are slow. I wish I owned the valet company then I not worry about working off of tips.

I like these tip threads because I do this as my side job so it is interesting to see what TA do about this stuff. I have a full time job getting paid enough but the summer is where the GREEN is so I do it on the weekends. Extra money can't hurt

I always tip at places I plan on going to again. Even if the service is shitty, if I ever plan on going to that place ever again, I tip somewhere around 20%+

I can think of few restaurant experiences where I felt that the attendant did a bad job - there's usually many variables to consider but as long as I get drinks, food, & bill, I am generally pleased with the service. Was the water/waitress really busy? Were they handling like 7 tables at once because someone decided not to show up tonight? are they totally new at the job? All things to consider.

Some of you have this fucked up psycho-conditional streak where you believe that tipping should be something done as incentive, like you're fucking Pavlov ringing a bell. No, tipping is not a required thing, but do you honestly believe that after a waiter/waitress gets their $0.43 tip, they will think to themselves "gee, I should do a better job next time" or will they think to themselves "wow, what a righteous idiot fucking cunthead"?

Whatever though - I have always operated under the adage that the true measure of a person's character is how they treat those who are least important to them. Tipping shouldn't be some form of behavioural control.

Tipping 20% at a place like Perkins or Applebees on your meal is like an extra 2 dollars, so I do it regardless of the quality of service. I also demand extra ranch and salsa with the Chicken Tender Melt. If the extra salsa comes in a bigger bowl as it should, they are definitely getting an extra $.25.

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Originally posted by Perfect_Cheezit Tipping 20% at a place like Perkins or Applebees on your meal is like an extra 2 dollars, so I do it regardless of the quality of service. I also demand extra ranch and salsa with the Chicken Tender Melt. If the extra salsa comes in a bigger bowl as it should, they are definitely getting an extra $.25.

if it wasn't for the extra salsa in a bigger bowl god help us

play the sympathy card. What are they gonna do, a background check? From now on, you are Carlos Santiago, immigrant worker from Sal Paolo who's mother died of AIDS and father died in the holocaust. You've struggled all your life and your wife just left you for your sister. Then you tear up and sob:
"god, why did you kill mami and papi? TAKE ME TAKE ME!"
http://www.wlbz2.com/news/watercool...x?storyid=66079

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ndiana Waitress Gets Dream Tip Web Editor: Elizabeth Reinholt, Producer Created: 7/13/2007 7:12:58 AM Updated: 7/13/2007 11:48:04 AM WLBZ2.com/mobile ANGOLA, Ind. (AP) -- Waitress Jessica Osborne is getting more than a good tip. She's getting $10,000 for her college education. The 20-year-old waits tables at a Pizza Hut in northeast Indiana. The money is from a mother and her two sons who are regular customers, but don't want to be named. Osborne says she'd told the family how she had started college twice before, but had to quit because she didn't have the money. Osborne says the $10,000 gift made her cry so hard, she couldn't breathe. And she's having trouble getting people to believe her. Osborne says a co-worker thought she was lying.

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Originally posted by Inertia still, that shit comes with the job. i'm sorry, and while i DO tip, i still believe if it just comes out my ass not to leave a cent one day, there should be no shit said about it.

A lot of waiters/waitresses in the United States make less than minimum wage and require tips to make money. I know most try to do a good job make people happy etc. And not tipping purposefully when the service is good is like asking for someone to spit in your food.

Money doesn't appear out of thin air, and the restaurant business is very competitive. The customer benefits the most from the tipping system. It allows direct control over the total price of the meal. Instead of paying the same amount of money for shit service and superb service, you can alter the amount of money you end up paying for the meal, depending on whether you thought the service was good or bad.

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Originally posted by Sunsnail Money doesn't appear out of thin air, and the restaurant business is very competitive. The customer benefits the most from the tipping system. It allows direct control over the total price of the meal. Instead of paying the same amount of money for shit service and superb service, you can alter the amount of money you end up paying for the meal, depending on whether you thought the service was good or bad.

In many Manhattan restaurants they add to the total the 15% or 20% gratuity fee on purpose. I wonder if you don't pay that for bad service will they make you clean dishes. I never had a problem paying that but in a case where they do a bad job wtf it they force you to pay then I say something.

When they add it for you its the equivalent of not having a tipping system. That 15-20% tipping charge would come from the price of food instead.

I tip well. I was raised as a very generous tipper. Shit service or not I still tip. If I think my service was crap I'll let them know, but I'll still tip.

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Originally posted by Frenchie I tip well. I was raised as a very generous tipper. Shit service or not I still tip. If I think my service was crap I'll let them know, but I'll still tip.

but, why? I mean seriously, a tip is (in ithe terms we speak in europe anyway) to signify good service. It's a sign of gratitude. I don't get why you'd tip bad service, not tipping them is enough. However when abroad which is when we eat out most, we tend to check up on places, by the menu, the number of locals in there, which often shows the quality of a place etc.

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