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Originally posted by geroin what?? dude i'm pretty sure i know more than you about what a good computer consists of, i don't need a lesson here. You did not answer my question: i'd like to know the hardware differences please (mac vs pc)

Gera is on the mission hehe

besides, we're forgetting about custom billed PC's, when you can select the best hardware and put it together into a great machine

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Originally posted by geroin so basically you suggested 2 things -to install windows on a mac if she wants to ??????? why would you buy a mac to install windows on it, that is hilarious -more graphic presentations and more documentation, more creativity i don't understand this also, how do you get creative when you switch to a different operating system, how does a better graphic presentation of a program benefit your ability to learn or understand. What is so difficult in learning the applications on a PC that you need a mac to get it? and last but not least, why can't you run Mac OS on a PC if you really really want to? ps. also someone please explain to me, how is Mac different from a PC from a hardware point of view that people say it's better? (apart from being a proprietary system).

I understand what youre trying to say...and I am not saying its 'hard' literally....as I said earlier...I can't explain it properly but its just that the feel of a Mac, its smoothness...tends to increase your productivity and enhances your ability to create better docs, presentations etc..

And yes you are right...you should not get a Mac if all you are going to do is run Windows on it....but there are certain applications that run better on Mac and yes...there are some where you cant replace Windows....the capability of being able to switch is what Mac offers and Windows does not. I have been a Windows guy all my life...and this feature helped me a lot...slowly I just started using Macs more compared to windows..

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Originally posted by harcourt I think you're assuming that's what people are saying. This thread wasn't about which hardware is better, it's about whether I should run OSX or Windows. I don't like my mac because it's silver and has an apple on it and the keyboard lights up, I like it because of OSX, which is probably why most people say they like their mac.

buying a computer based on the likeness(?) of an O/S is ridiculous, especially when you overpay for the system that you purchase. O/S is software that could be installed on pretty much any system, some systems need hacking to be able to do that but as of now it is possible to install Mac OS on a PC making purchases of Macs (for your reason) absolutely pointless.

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Originally posted by evil_cookie what? no seriously, what does that even mean?

okie I'll try to explain with an example...many windows users never think about doing stuff like making their own websites, photo albums, and stuff like that but when they buy a mac and realize that they dun need stuff like Dreamweaver, Photoshop etc.. to make websites or enhance/edit photos, images, etc...but they can do all that on iWeb even though it is on a basic level...they give it a shot...

Once they are done playing around with it...they end up making blogs..they personal pages, albums on the internet...they may/may not wish to improve upon it...but often since they already have a headstart with the iWeb and similar applications...they are comparatively more motivated to work on it futher and at the same time less intimated by the whole idea of learning it...so they would play around with softwares which they otherwise would not...and once they find something that clicks for them...they get more skilled and at the same time...they produce/create stuff which they would have not been able to otherwise....

I am saying this from personal experience and by watching others..you may agree with this or not...but think about what I said...

//done marketing for Apple.

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur Pros of a Mac book: Some people will think you are cool because you have a Mac You will feel more "hip" with a Mac All the cute gay guys will swoon over your Mac's design and OS You will instantly befriend any Apple fanboy as soon as they see that you have a Mac The sky will seem bluer, and the grass greener, when you have a Mac Your Macbook will have 3.14 billion different configurations including: upside down, closed, slightly open, turned off, and plugged in. You will be convinced you will have the most powerful notebook (until Apple comes out with the next version with a bigger hard drive) ever conceived by man OR alien. That's all I can think of for now.

Lol...agreed

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Originally posted by adi26 okie I'll try to explain with an example...many windows users never think about doing stuff like making their own websites, photo albums, and stuff like that but when they buy a mac and realize that they dun need stuff like Dreamweaver, Photoshop etc.. to make websites or enhance/edit photos, images, etc...but they can do all that on iWeb even though it is on a basic level...they give it a shot... Once they are done playing around with it...they end up making blogs..they personal pages, albums on the internet...they may/may not wish to improve upon it...but often since they already have a headstart with the iWeb and similar applications...they are comparatively more motivated to work on it futher and at the same time less intimated by the whole idea of learning it...so they would play around with softwares which they otherwise would not...and once they find something that clicks for them...they get more skilled and at the same time...they produce/create stuff which they would have not been able to otherwise.... I am saying this from personal experience and by watching others..you may agree with this or not...but think about what I said... //done marketing for Apple.

if this was your marketing speech for Apple they would be out of business.
Microsoft Frontpage, comes on the same cd with Microsoft Office when you install Word.

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Originally posted by geroin if this was your marketing speech for Apple they would be out of business. Microsoft Frontpage, comes on the same cd with Microsoft Office when you install Word.

okay dude...dun get personal n stuff...Windows is the best. Happy? Enjoy ur PC.

Yeah, the Mac vs. PC argument is always stupid - in the end, it all comes down to preference. Some people like oranges, some people like apples.

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Originally posted by geroin Microsoft Frontpage, comes on the same cd with Microsoft Office when you install Word.

not anymore. MS expects ppl to use Word to create html now. you can use MS Expressions (replaced FrontPage) or Visual Studio if you want to develop in .NET.

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Originally posted by adi26 okay dude...dun get personal n stuff...Windows is the best. Happy? Enjoy ur PC.

how did i get personal? i never said Windows is the best, i actually said they are both exactly the same systems, hardware and software.

the only difference

Mac
Pro's
-better graphic interface (even though Vista is the same)
Con's
-less formats supported
-more expensive

PC
Pro's
- much cheaper
- supports everything

Con's
- more vulnerable to viruses (could be avoided by installing appropriate software, like firefox and more)
- not as graphic (even though Vista is)

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Originally posted by Tordan not anymore. MS expects ppl to use Word to create html now. you can use MS Expressions (replaced FrontPage) or Visual Studio if you want to develop in .NET.

i just used this as an example, there is actually a ton of (free) software available online where you can do HTML.

If you get a MacBook, consider an extended warranty. My friend got a 12" iBook and it crapped out after 2 years with a logic board problem, bad soldering in a small area of the board. We fixed it but it has crapped out again. Hopefully MacBook is better.

http://www.coreyarnold.org/ibook/
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_p...ned.cgi?ibookg4

And if you have cash left pick up some Apple stock, they are on a roll!

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Originally posted by tvmann And if you have cash left pick up some Apple stock, they are on a roll!

Yea, many analysts are predicting Apple's stocks to go upto 200 by the end of the year...I think 200 is too optimistic though...but Apple is on a run for sure...

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Originally posted by geroin some systems need hacking to be able to do that but as of now it is possible to install Mac OS on a PC making purchases of Macs (for your reason) absolutely pointless.

Yes of course its pointless, the world is full of people who want to (and are capable) geek out like you're suggesting and hack their new purchase in order to install things, you definitely have the majority of consumers in mind there.


Your tirade against apple is funny, enjoy your PC.

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Originally posted by geroin lol, you mac people are seriously clueless (maybe that's the reason you buys macs). It's not his computer that posted it, it's this site's forum/database that is not configured properly that causes this error.

I'm joking
You remind me of the PC dude on the commercial who has no sense of humor

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Originally posted by harcourt Yes of course its pointless, the world is full of people who want to (and are capable) geek out like you're suggesting and hack their new purchase in order to install things, you definitely have the majority of consumers in mind there. Your tirade against apple is funny, enjoy your PC.

hacking does not necessarily mean ruining your purchase or hacking the shit out of your computer, hacking in my case means "adjusting your computer to be able to do something that is not initially allowed by creators"

http://www.windowsdevcenter.com/pub.../18/PearPC.html

here are the steps you need to take to install mac os without "hacking".

1. Download the PearPC PowerPC Architecture Emulator.
2. Obtain hard disk images for use with PearPC.
3. Obtain images of your client OS installation disk.
4. Configure PearPC to use the hard disk image and the OS images.

there are other ways also. There is no tirade against apple, there is a tirade against clueless people who think their Macs are better than PC's when it fact it's the same shit.

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Originally posted by Skipper I'm joking You remind me of the PC dude on the commercial who has no sense of humor

i do have a sense of humour, i thought since you have a Mac you were being serious.

that makes no sense whatsoever...much like the error messages I got in windows

B'OH!

You are all fucking nerds.

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Originally posted by Skipper that makes no sense whatsoever...much like the error messages I got in windows B'OH!

hehehe

The sky is falling!

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker I've had 3 ThinkPads and they are God's gift to portability. 2 T-series and 1 Z-series (replaced by modern T-series). Go with a T and you'll drink milk and love life.

ThinkPad T60 ..*drool*...

as for school laptop... lenovo 3000 N200, 2 gigs of ram, 160gb hd, + all the goodies a thinkpad comes with..and honestly you're all set.

IMO, nothing beats a thinkpad in design, reliability and functionality. Now they have the best keyboard thing, you can spill anything on it and it won't fry you laptop....it's insane.

Good luck with whatever you choose,

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Originally posted by Skipper that makes no sense whatsoever...much like the error messages I got in windows B'OH!

This kind of statement gets me annoyed. Having to deal with both macs and pcs running windows or linux, it's kind of shooting yourself in your foot when you say something like this, if you're a pro mac person.

Macs give error messages too, and I would say that 95% of Mac users won't even know where to start looking for appropriate log files to properly fix it. Windows may give cryptic messages, but most of the time I find that it does a decent job of trying to pinpoint an issue. Linux is better, but involves a steeper learning curve. OS X, which tries to completely avoid pointing users to the terminal, does a great job of dumbing down the power and detail of the operating system, which is, to it's credit, both a success and failing point.
Why is it that Windows is criticized for hiding system files and directories by default, but file browser of OS X is hiding most of the system files as well but isn't pointed out?

Mac is a very polished OS, and is very good at what it does, but having used a variety of OS flavors, it comes down to this. The OS is really irrelevant. If you're capable of doing work and adapting, you will do it with the tools available to you. If I'm unable to write a document and format it in Mac, but can on Windows, that's really more a failing of me rather than the OS or the software.

To the person that mentioned the Mac gets you more creative, it's kinda BS, because what just got you "more" creative were simply different templates that shipped with OS X. That's no more creative than me tracing a Van Gogh.

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Originally posted by Tranceplanted

thank you, good points.

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Originally posted by Tranceplanted This kind of statement gets me annoyed.

Then you need a sense of humor too.
I'm not actually pro mac. I have both a windows based laptop and a mac book, both new in the last year. I like and hate them each for different reasons.

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Originally posted by Skipper I like and hate them each for different reasons.

Haha. Very democratic.

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Originally posted by Skipper Then you need a sense of humor too. I'm not actually pro mac. I have both a windows based laptop and a mac book, both new in the last year. I like and hate them each for different reasons.

And I was supposed to know that based on your comments in this thread how? Tongue in cheek isn't always easy to pick up with no reference point, esp on the internet.

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