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| Originally posted by Lira Hip hop is dead! |
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| Originally posted by chach You're margerine. |
kid nyce i dont think kanye is whack at all. i think he brings some crazy innovative sounds to the table. i respect him as a sampler and producer. However i totally agree with you if your talking about kanye as a mc. as an mc like i said if he doesnt have cameos he sucks. he usually has good cameos too, unfortunately this album he tried to do it by himself rofl.
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| Originally posted by julien2 Jedi Mind Tricks, Dead Prez, Immortal Technique, Outerspace. Hip Hop is alive |
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| Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov I'd add Talib and Common to the list as well. But Dead Prez are simply awesome. |
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| Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov I'd add Talib and Common to the list as well. But Dead Prez are simply awesome. |
when kanye first came out, i knew he wasnt a very good mc. i thought kanye's mic skills would have improved more by this album but either way his beats are good enough to carry him...though he should have thrown up his hot beats to someone deserving
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| Originally posted by Lira Hip hop is dead! |
funny you talk up how wack kanye is, and joell ortiz isn't, but that last youtube contains a kanye-beat ripoff.
hip hop is not what one group thinks it should be, look at outkast. outkast has never stopped innovating, and without them the southern hip hop movement wouldnt exist as it does. but since they change and evolve are they no longer hip hop?
the roots, outkast, common, mos def. none of those artists fits into one grouping like: '90s NY hip hop' labeling like that is wack.
kanye has been a major force, mostly behind the scenes in shaping and changing what people expect of hip hop musically and sonically. if you want all hip hop to sound like big pun, then change will suck for you|
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| Originally posted by Cipha Sounds Real Hip Hop is still alive, don't get it twisted. |
I would never trust some poseur white kid from NYC when it comes to the state of hip hop.
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| Originally posted by UWM I would never trust some poseur white kid from NYC when it comes to the state of hip hop. |
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| Originally posted by Cipha Sounds you kill me. I know more about hip hop than most of the kids on my block. Born and raised in the bronx for over 20 years. Real Hip Hop is not a race, especially when Big Pun hit the scene. I always had black dudes sayin what up my nigga whenever they've seen me on the block. We grew up together bitch, you wouldn't understand that real hip hop is a lifestyle, not just music. I wouldn't expect a redneck hick from Wisconsin to understand. Don't talk until you lived the life little man, just keep on fishing with your buddies with your skin tight jeans that look painted on. I got not time to go back and forth with some redneck drunk. Go take your frustrations out on your wife, I'll by you a Budweiser for your troubles. |
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| Originally posted by biznology funny you talk up how wack kanye is, and joell ortiz isn't, but that last youtube contains a kanye-beat ripoff. hip hop is not what one group thinks it should be, look at outkast. outkast has never stopped innovating, and without them the southern hip hop movement wouldnt exist as it does. but since they change and evolve are they no longer hip hop? the roots, outkast, common, mos def. none of those artists fits into one grouping like: '90s NY hip hop' labeling like that is wack. kanye has been a major force, mostly behind the scenes in shaping and changing what people expect of hip hop musically and sonically. if you want all hip hop to sound like big pun, then change will suck for you| |
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| Originally posted by Cipha Sounds you kill me. I know more about hip hop than most of the kids on my block. Born and raised in the bronx for over 20 years. Real Hip Hop is not a race, especially when Big Pun hit the scene. I always had black dudes sayin what up my nigga whenever they've seen me on the block. We grew up together bitch, you wouldn't understand that real hip hop is a lifestyle, not just music. I wouldn't expect a redneck hick from Wisconsin to understand. Don't talk until you lived the life little man, just keep on fishing with your buddies with your skin tight jeans that look painted on. I got not time to go back and forth with some redneck drunk. Go take your frustrations out on your wife, I'll by you a Budweiser for your troubles. |
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| Originally posted by UWM So what makes it so easy for you to paint a picture of my life when I'm not allowed to paint one of yours? You don't know what I've gone through. Don't be a fucking hypocrit. That's why you get no respect here. Everyone knows you're a walking contradiction. |
Oh and if you had even a 4th grade education you would know that no self-respecting Wisconsin native would drink an Anheiser-Busch product.
So Big Pun blurred race lines in hip-hop, huh? Explain to me how that happened, seeing as Fat Joe gained notoriety before him.
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| Originally posted by UWM So what makes it so easy for you to paint a picture of my life when I'm not allowed to paint one of yours? You don't know what Ive gone through. Don't be a fucking hypocrit. That's why you get no respect here. Everyone knows you're a walking contradiction. |
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| Originally posted by Cipha Sounds Don't mind me, I just came back from the bar, I'm really fucked up right now and I think this is funny. You trying to call me out on my knowledge of hip hop. I got tracks and albums all the way back from the old Mcs like Rakim and krs one. |
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| Originally posted by Cipha Sounds Do they pay my bills? |
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| Originally posted by jennypie No. Cintas does. Everyone knows that. |
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| Originally posted by UWM Oh and if you had even a 4th grade education you would know that no self-respecting Wisconsin native would drink an Anheiser-Busch product. So Big Pun blurred race lines in hip-hop, huh? Explain to me how that happened, seeing as Fat Joe gained notoriety before him. |
Holy fuck you're hard.
HEY EVERYONE THIS GUY'S HARD.
/beatsandbeeps
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| Originally posted by Cipha Sounds I'll straight kill someone if they approach me the wrong way but I'm not no motherfuckin bully. I'm a grown ass man just looking to move back to Ny and continue my life without causing problems. Truth is , if we met I'd probably take you to a bar and buy you a drink. But if you wanted to throw the hands, we can do that too |
Blah blah blah "New York is so great" Blah blah blah. I've heard the same rhetoric 1000 times from 1000 different people. I don't give a fuck about your city or how 'hard' it is or how it has 'soul' that you can't find anywhere else. It's tired. I knew kids in the Kings and Bloods and I grew up in a fucking suburb of Milwaukee. Same shit, different city.
A drink you say? It's on me. I have no issue with anybody who doesn't deserve it.
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