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I think that this is actually a pretty significant topic, given people's responses and justification to their views.
It seems to me that, whether you say yes or no, the real aim and reason behind your answer is more important, as it signifies your political reasoning in the matter.
The way I see it, it's not so much a matter of 'should prostitution be legalized?' so much as it is a matter of 'should prostitution be illegalized?'. What's the difference? Well, it seems to me that it comes down to whether or not you think that humans should be innately free to do what they want, unless it allows them to directly harm another person without the victim's consent or whether you think that humans should be kept in line by their government, everything should be regulated at all times because...well, fuck, I can't condone that sort of system, so I don't even know how to describe people's brand of logic behind it. The point? Humans' system of justice should be based upon the precept that humans should be allowed to do whatever they really want to at all times, and you put restrictions on it from there. Some people here, it seems like they would rather there be restrictions first and freedoms later. Careful not to let your corporate and public indoctrination get the better of you - people who make laws usually only have themselves in mind.
Recently some closet-roaming Senator was caught supposedley playing sex footsey with some guy in the stall net to him in a public restroom. The person happened to be an undercover police officer on a gay sex sting, and when word reached the media, the Senator's name was ruined; all the much more sweeter is the fact that this Senator was strongly republican and quite outspoken against gay rights. The Senator resigned, his career turned to a lie before everyone, his name ruined - yet he still has not confessed to being homosexual. The part of this story that bothered me the most is certainly not that we have gay politicians, not even that we have anti-gay rights Senators (however much I may disagree with them), but the fact that we have gay sex stings. Why in the FUCK is gay sex the law's business? Why in the FUCK is it the law's concern with what goes on behind locked doors when both parties are consenting? Because they can't tax it? Because we have certain outspoken puritan idiot fuckheads running the country? Because out of sight, out of mind isn't even enough in this case, there have to be laws prohibiting personal freedoms?
It's a much larger issue than just prostitution, I guess.
A friend of mine once said: "If the Government is intent upon making what goes on in the bedroom its business, it should be prepared to be fucked in the ass."
This friend was drunk.
The end.
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| Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On "If the Government is intent upon making what goes on in the bedroom its business, it should be prepared to be fucked in the ass." |
Yes. If they want to fuck men/women for a living then so be it. It's their body anyways.As long as they get checked for STD's regularly.
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| Originally posted by ikhouvanu As long as they get checked for STD's regularly. |
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| Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On I don't even think this should be a condition. Do I think that people should? Of course. Do I think that it should be another regulation upon people where they are punished by the government for not doing so? No way. It comes down to personal responsibility, as so much of what is wrong in the US does. If you eat a hamburger that looks undercooked, even though your better judgment urged you against it, why are you allowed to sue the restaurant? If you are hurt in a car accident, can you suddenly sue the car manufacturer? why the hell is that? They didn't wreck your damn car. If you sleep with a cheap hooker and get a disease, who is to blame? You are for fucking someone you didn't know, you dumb bastard - why can people expect regulations to come rescue them all the time? It's a dependency that ends up costing money and resources that simply should not be wasted upon people by a mere service that should have little control other than exacting justice in order to keep people from killing one another. |
How so?
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| Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On How so? |
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| Originally posted by Boomer187 teh real world |
Yeah, what I said was the complete opposite of that.
People don't have a sense of personal responsibility. I think that they should. Yes, it's idealistic to think that they ever truly could, I am just commenting on the fact that excessive legal safetynets for people make them depend on the Government for a great deal of things, and that this dependency does not foster an environment where people are actually incentivized to have some personal responsibility.
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't have government completely abolished or something - that's not the answer. But this current state where Government systems seem to have a say in every human affair that goes on is simply not working.
A year ago I would have said "OMG PROSTITUTES ARE WHORES!" and probably would have vehemently defended how wrong it is to be a prostitute. But now I don't give a shit.
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| Originally posted by jennypie A year ago I would have said "OMG PROSTITUTES ARE WHORES!" and probably would have vehemently defended how wrong it is to be a prostitute. But now I don't give a shit. |
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| Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Prostitutes are whores? Holy shit. So you were once against it, now you are indifferent - and why shouldn't you be? I don't claim to know you, but I bet you have no reason to even care about prostitution. So why should it be anyone's business except between the two people in which the transaction occurs? |
Way to miss my obvious use of counter-sarcasm by means of sarcastic ignorance.
!!!!!!!!!!!!
DIE. 
Ok. 
Awwww, baby I didn't mean it.
*hug*
/Gets tested for STDs.
That'll be 5 dollars.
*lights a cigarette*
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| Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Yeah, what I said was the complete opposite of that. People don't have a sense of personal responsibility. I think that they should. Yes, it's idealistic to think that they ever truly could, I am just commenting on the fact that excessive legal safetynets for people make them depend on the Government for a great deal of things, and that this dependency does not foster an environment where people are actually incentivized to have some personal responsibility. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't have government completely abolished or something - that's not the answer. But this current state where Government systems seem to have a say in every human affair that goes on is simply not working. |
Halcyon lives in the valley!
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| Originally posted by jennypie Halcyon lives in the valley! |
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| Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On I don't even think this should be a condition. Do I think that people should? Of course. Do I think that it should be another regulation upon people where they are punished by the government for not doing so? No way. It comes down to personal responsibility, as so much of what is wrong in the US does. If you eat a hamburger that looks undercooked, even though your better judgment urged you against it, why are you allowed to sue the restaurant? If you are hurt in a car accident, can you suddenly sue the car manufacturer? why the hell is that? They didn't wreck your damn car. If you sleep with a cheap hooker and get a disease, who is to blame? You are for fucking someone you didn't know, you dumb bastard - why can people expect regulations to come rescue them all the time? It's a dependency that ends up costing money and resources that simply should not be wasted upon people by a mere service that should have little control other than exacting justice in order to keep people from killing one another. |
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN of course it should be a condition. its part of OH&S, just like any other workplace. |
But the entire dynamic is a bit upsetting to me... Government shouldn't be anyone's parent. Those who need to be governed all of the time deserve the oppression they get - the rest of us seemingly have to deal with it instead. =/
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| Originally posted by Boomer187 it is good wine. |
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| Originally posted by jennypie Halcyon lives in the valley! |
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| Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On haha ok, got me there. But the entire industry of keeping people safe from themselves seems absolutely ridiculous to me. The government is seeming more and more like a parent who likes to coddle its children and never let them take the blame so that they learn and develop into strong and healthy, uh, citizens. But the entire dynamic is a bit upsetting to me... Government shouldn't be anyone's parent. Those who need to be governed all of the time deserve the oppression they get - the rest of us seemingly have to deal with it instead. =/ |
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