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I switched from Reason to Fruity and Fruity blew Reason out of the water.
Its also a statistical fact that for every one person who buys Reason there are 4 people who buy Fruity. So who ever is talking this "industry standard" nonsense is just a conformist imo.

I could care less what the "standard" is, FL is a mean music producing machine.

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox I switched from Reason to Fruity and Fruity blew Reason out of the water. Its also a statistical fact that for every one person who buys Reason there are 4 people who buy Fruity. So who ever is talking this "industry standard" nonsense is just a conformist imo. I could care less what the "standard" is, FL is a mean music producing machine.

Please tell me where you get your "statistical facts", because to me it sounds like a load of crap

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Originally posted by Maor Levi all i can say is... Hah.

no honestly its not even funny and the deadrat6 thing isn't funny either it just exposes how bad your production skills really are in comparison.

http://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic.php?t=7367

Please vote and leave comments in the thread, if you are an FL user. As I see it, this is the only problem with FL.

Thanks.

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Originally posted by Shade Please tell me where you get your "statistical facts", because to me it sounds like a load of crap

I do research for a living. You can start by goin to *any DAW neutral website and observing the numbers of people who own both programs. Start somewhere like serioussonds and look with your own eyes. The only correction I would make is that I can't rationally say thats how many people are actually BUYING Fruity but how many people OWN it (either legally or pirated) in comparison to Reason.

Do some research of your own before you go calling BS on other peoples findings.

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox I do research for a living. You can start by goin to *any DAW neutral website and observing the numbers of people who own both programs. Start somewhere like serioussonds and look with your own eyes. The only correction I would make is that I can't rationally say thats how many people are actually BUYING Fruity but how many people OWN it (either legally or pirated) in comparison to Reason. Do some research of your own before you go calling BS on other peoples findings.

You do research for a living, yet you still haven't managed to give me a proper source; I want to see where you got this 4:1 purchasing ratio.

When people challenge your stats, do you regularly change your claims? When it comes to sourcing said statistics, do you leave out the details on the sample you used?
Still sounds like a load of crap to me!

Oh... and I'm not doubting that more people use FL than Reason, however I don't like when people throw numbers out of their asses and call it "fact".

i eat for a living. statistics indicate there is a 90% chance i am hungry, as indicated by my stomach rumbling.

brb

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Originally posted by echosystm i eat for a living. statistics indicate there is a 90% chance i am hungry, as indicated by my stomach rumbling. brb

Reason is still the KING in my book rewired with Protools! who needs FL Studio! check out the Thor soundset by Manuel Schleis! Thor can make some sexy supersaw like sounds! http://www.vengeance-sound.de/eng/indexFLASH.html

Not saying Fl Studio sucks,its okay i Think!

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Originally posted by atxbigballer1 rewired with Protools!

gee... what a relevant comparison...

i think it is all like supermarkets in all honesty , they all sell the same stuff and come with there own brands and feature items but the whole thing comes down to price in which one you purchase from and so forth the snobby purchase from the expensive store but the poor obviously purchase from the cheap store , but at the end its all the same stuff in different packages except for the feature items(own brands), but as a comparison if someone rendered refx nexus after midnight1 in 512bit 320kbps in fl and then the same in cubase does it sound different???????????????

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Originally posted by catalystG5 Producing with fruityloops is like doing a magazine cover with MS PAINT instead of photoshop. It can be done, although it shouldn't be

LOAD OF BULL-SHIT. It's not the tool, it's how you use it. Breakfast uses Fruityloops and he's signed to Ferry's label. Oh, and speaking of MSPaint:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uVXx58j4B5A

...so much for the tool of choice. In the right hands, with a great idea, a simple tracker can produce a hit.

I used to dismiss FL as a toy before but nowdays you have to recon with results, not what was used.

Many producers are going to software only, Yahel, Airbase, even Prodigy, and many more... So, the proof is still in the puddin', dear.

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Originally posted by aNYthing LOAD OF BULL-SHIT.

we've already all established long ago that catalystg5 is a retard.

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Originally posted by adi_hanson if someone rendered refx nexus after midnight1 in 512bit 320kbps in fl and then the same in cubase does it sound different???????????????

yes, cubase has different pan laws. once you start to add effects and change levels, the intricacies of the "audio engine" will become apparent. does it matter though? no.

What the hell?

Most producers use samples. You can load samples somehow into any DAW.

Most producer use VST(i)'s. You can load vst(i)'s somehow into any DAW (save reason).

People who are bickering about 32 bit mixing algorithms vs 24 bit or whatever need to shut the fuck up and worry about their own skills, which is 99% the limiting factor in a production's quality.

IMO opinion the differences between DAW's boil down to how you place notes and set parameters. You can't hear the difference between a note placed in Cubase or in Fruity. I'm not saying there's no difference in the sound between cubase and fruity. What I am saying is that a difference doesn't imply hierarchical order.

PS I went from cakewalk to cubase to fruity. I think intuitive use beats anything, because by hands-on playing you make actual tracks.

like i said...

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Originally posted by echosystm does it matter though? no.

FL Studio is awesome.
I actually hate talking crap about any program, but if we're gonna talk crap about programs, I personally think Reason needs to be trashed.
I LOVE the redrum, I LOVE the maelstrom (sp). Subtractor, combinator almost everything in it.
But its piano roll is a joke.
Doesn't support vsts (which is = DAW genocide imo)
And its selectivity in samplers which only open specific files sucks.


I used to for 2 years. Now have been using FL for another 2-3 years and I myself producing sounds in 5 mins that would have taken 5 hours with Reason.
Than there are industry standards, but some of those programs have options I could care less about and I'm sure 99% of people most likely don't even use.
The only aspect about FL Studio I don't like is I oddly feel like a child everytime I use it with the fruits and general interface graphics. At least compared to Reason which looks real and professional.

But I still think Reason needs to sell off each of their instruments as vsts to the general public, get rid of the whole reason file crap, and shut the program down and make money off selling commercial versions of something like the redrum.

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox But I still think Reason needs to sell off each of their instruments as vsts to the general public

"rewire"

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox FL Studio is awesome. I actually hate talking crap about any program, but if we're gonna talk crap about programs, I personally think Reason needs to be trashed. I LOVE the redrum, I LOVE the maelstrom (sp). Subtractor, combinator almost everything in it. But its piano roll is a joke. Doesn't support vsts (which is = DAW genocide imo) And its selectivity in samplers which only open specific files sucks. I used to for 2 years. Now have been using FL for another 2-3 years and I myself producing sounds in 5 mins that would have taken 5 hours with Reason. Than there are industry standards, but some of those programs have options I could care less about and I'm sure 99% of people most likely don't even use. The only aspect about FL Studio I don't like is I oddly feel like a child everytime I use it with the fruits and general interface graphics. At least compared to Reason which looks real and professional. But I still think Reason needs to sell off each of their instruments as vsts to the general public, get rid of the whole reason file crap, and shut the program down and make money off selling commercial versions of something like the redrum.

DJ Robby Rox i think u dont know jack about fl or reason!

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Originally posted by atxbigballer1 DJ Robby Rox i think u dont know jack about fl or reason!

i think most people would say the same about you.

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Originally posted by atxbigballer1 DJ Robby Rox i think u dont know jack about fl or reason!

Thanks, but whats your actual point?
Point being, you have none. Dish out some facts and I might actually have something worthwhile to say to you.


Or better yet, lets see some of your tracks, I'll post mine, than we let the entire forum decide who knows what about what.

Scared?

Funny! Im a Reason Master! I know more about Propellerhead's Reason then James Bernard and Propellerhead! I dont know jack about Fl Studio! lol The only thing i know about FL Studio is how to rewire Reason to FL Studio!

So dj Robby Rox u want to Battle me!? I hate to brake your hart but I only battle on http://www.rocbattle.com! If u want some come get some and Pick a style of music so i can brake u off Son! You use FL and i will use Reason 4.0! But we Battle for Money! How dose $100 sound? My Myspace is http://www.myspace.com/atxshotcaller1 so if u want some u know where to find me! Now are u Scared son?

I like the idea of pitting two producers, one using FL & the other using, say, Reason, to make a track based around certain parameters & criteria and see whose sounds the best. I used to use FL & now I'm a Reason Grand Dragon

None of you FL monkeys could ever match me. Ever.

Now come on guys!! Go fight it out

I also use FL Studio (version 8) btw, since the piano roll in FL Studio beats all other piano rolls in my opinion. And the playlist / pattern functions have been updated as well in the new version.
People who say flstudio is crap don't know what they're talking about...

holy shit what is this american bullshit about battling and fighting?

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