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Posted by spc on Dec-23-2007 17:26:

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Originally posted by RJT




Is that Digweed with glasses for your Contacts icon?


Posted by Meat187 on Dec-23-2007 17:30:

Re: Re: Re: Re: ipods teh suck

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Originally posted by getfoul
The driving feel comes from all aspects of the player. From the steering feedback to the brake feel. Not the auditory side, although that is a plus. The iPod is very good at keeping the user in touch with what's going on without being overboard about it.

It's not their marketing department that was so successful with this. It their research and interface departments that had the major success. You can advertise a product with as much trendy stuff as you want, but what it comes down to is user response. If you don't have a product that delivers a good experience (interface and ease of use) then you won't have a high seller. Regardless of how much money you throw into marketing.


Don't you think it's funny, that when you're praising an mp3 player, you didn't mention a single thing that had to with actually playing music.
What you say would matter if the ipods main feature were to make you feel good. But it's main feature is to play music, and it sucks at that for the reasons already mentioned in this thread.


Posted by callme:gsmile: on Dec-23-2007 17:53:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
...is completely untrue from an objective standpoint.


quote:
Originally posted by RJT
i own one


freaks live set edit




Posted by RJT on Dec-23-2007 18:49:

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Originally posted by callme
freaks live set edit





That would be a pretty "sick dis" if I was trying to make an objective claim, but as I was clearly talking from my own experience, next time I suggest you "try harder".


Posted by chimera66 on Dec-23-2007 19:35:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike


fyi i love that photo in your sig...i'm stealing it for now


Posted by getfoul on Dec-23-2007 20:06:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ipods teh suck

quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
Don't you think it's funny, that when you're praising an mp3 player, you didn't mention a single thing that had to with actually playing music.
What you say would matter if the ipods main feature were to make you feel good. But it's main feature is to play music, and it sucks at that for the reasons already mentioned in this thread.
If you failed to catch it, I was alluding to the fact that, in reality, it has nothing to do with it's ability to play music that makes it popular. It's the entire package. It's the user friendly part that makes it so widely accepted. The other players don't have the simplistic, yet well thought out and displayed package.

Because it has this backing, it doesn't need the perfect sound or the other gimmicks that other players have. It focuses on not making the user feel stupid because of all the hard to figure out features. With hard to figure out I mean that if you can't look at it and instantly know what to do, it's hard or difficult.

We all know that other players have cool features. The people who buy these generally do do their research when they spend 200-400 dollars on a piece of metal. They aren't just looking for fancy things, they are looking for something that has usability and support as well.

No, I don't think it's funny that I failed to mention music. I intentionally didn't mention music because of these key ideas. These ideas are something that you, as a music aficionado, are not very concerned with. You want music quality and that's it. You'll learn how to use something regardless of what it takes if it has something that you need as a part of it's overall package. Luckly for Apple, you make up the minority and the people drawn to what they spent millions in research on make up the majority.


Posted by Chris Crossland on Dec-23-2007 20:14:

OMG OMG I HATE iPod Jesus Christ DESTROY THEM ALL!!!! Theres so many better ones out there! Who gives a flying fuck? I'm tired of these iPods suck threads its fucking personal preferance. They want one let the fucktards get one and you go buy the one you want.

Holy crap...that guy has an iPod what a loser!! Those thinga suck! Meanwhile iPod guy is getting vagin, and your posting threads about how much you hate iPods. Fuckin emo man, do something constructive.

Merry Christmas


Posted by callme:gsmile: on Dec-23-2007 20:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Crossland
OMG OMG I HATE iPod Jesus Christ DESTROY THEM ALL!!!! Theres so many better ones out there! Who gives a flying fuck? I'm tired of these iPods suck threads its fucking personal preferance. They want one let the fucktards get one and you go buy the one you want.

Holy crap...that guy has an iPod what a loser!! Those thinga suck! Meanwhile iPod guy is getting vagin, and your posting threads about how much you hate iPods. Fuckin emo man, do something constructive.

Merry Christmas


yes constructive is posting in a thread calling people losers for posting. Well played.


Posted by Ygrene on Dec-23-2007 20:18:

The real enemy here is cell phone bills, you sonsabithces!


Posted by callme:gsmile: on Dec-23-2007 20:19:

*farts on ygrene and blames t mobile*


Posted by Omega_Blue on Dec-23-2007 20:19:

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Originally posted by Ygrene
The real enemy here is cell phone bills, you sonsabithces!


*punches cell phone bill again*


Posted by chimera66 on Dec-23-2007 20:20:

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Originally posted by Ygrene
The real enemy here is cell phone bills, you sonsabithces!


punch it again


Posted by hardcore trancer on Dec-23-2007 21:07:

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Originally posted by djsphere
iriver ftw



+1

iriver H340 FTFW!!!!!!


Posted by Meat187 on Dec-23-2007 22:13:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ipods teh suck

quote:
Originally posted by getfoul

We all know that other players have cool features. The people who buy these generally do do their research when they spend 200-400 dollars on a piece of metal. They aren't just looking for fancy things, they are looking for something that has usability and support as well.

No, I don't think it's funny that I failed to mention music. I intentionally didn't mention music because of these key ideas. These ideas are something that you, as a music aficionado, are not very concerned with. You want music quality and that's it. You'll learn how to use something regardless of what it takes if it has something that you need as a part of it's overall package. Luckly for Apple, you make up the minority and the people drawn to what they spent millions in research on make up the majority.


I think I can agree with that.
The iPod is succesful because many people want a player that's simple to use, has a nice design and is generally regarded as cool. Apple would be stupid not to capitalize on that.
My point is that if you try to get the best product (concerning features, reliability, battery, etc.) for your money then an iPod is certainly not the first choice.


Posted by blacknoizybox on Dec-23-2007 22:23:

iRiver T10 1Gb Blue suits me fine.


Posted by RickyM on Dec-23-2007 22:27:

The new ipod classic that I have has 30 hours battery life when listening to music, and 5 hours video battery life...which is plenty for a normal human being. Plus they are easy to use, have good sound quality (when you use decent headphones), and are compact and look half decent too...the only problem I would have would be that you have to use itunes, but apart from that I've never had any trouble with mine at all


Posted by Sweet Death on Dec-23-2007 23:25:

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Originally posted by RickyM
The new ipod classic that I have has 30 hours battery life when listening to music, and 5 hours video battery life...which is plenty for a normal human being. Plus they are easy to use, have good sound quality (when you use decent headphones), and are compact and look half decent too...the only problem I would have would be that you have to use itunes, but apart from that I've never had any trouble with mine at all


or that if you want to watch video it doesnt play the format that 95% of downloaded video is encoded at - xvid.


Posted by RickyM on Dec-24-2007 00:19:

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Originally posted by Sweet Death
or that if you want to watch video it doesnt play the format that 95% of downloaded video is encoded at - xvid.


just use videora (free software) to convert it, not really a big problem...


Posted by Sweet Death on Dec-24-2007 00:26:

quote:
Originally posted by RickyM
just use videora (free software) to convert it, not really a big problem...


it takes ages and is really annoying and slow even on fast processors.

you could use an identical argument to say that people should just put their mp3s on a cd and use a cd player and not even bother with an mp3 player.


Posted by RJT on Dec-24-2007 00:36:

Funny, how worked up some people get on the internet, what with PM's and all, lol.

Happy Holidaise Guise!


Posted by RickyM on Dec-24-2007 00:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Sweet Death
it takes ages and is really annoying and slow even on fast processors.

you could use an identical argument to say that people should just put their mp3s on a cd and use a cd player and not even bother with an mp3 player.


Well good luck fitting a cd player into your jeans pocket


Posted by callme:gsmile: on Dec-24-2007 00:38:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Funny, how worked up some people get on the internet, what with PM's and all, lol.

Happy Holidaise Guise!


your set wouldn't skip had you recorded using an in line i river

hate hate hate hate hate

i blame cigna and the phone company

/boozelulz
:P


Posted by airmartin on Dec-24-2007 00:43:

iPod appealed to me 'cause it was easy to use and 'there'; no other mp3 player was being promoted at the time. Me being lazy just went with it. Not because it's 'cool'.

As for the shit iTunes argument...just get the Winamp plugin.


Posted by Sweet Death on Dec-24-2007 01:01:

quote:
Originally posted by RickyM
Well good luck fitting a cd player into your jeans pocket


yeah ill just stick with my non ipod mp3 player, it has larger storage, bigger screen, plays all sorts of formats basically many more features for a lower price.

you stick with your ipod.


Posted by Sweet Death on Dec-24-2007 01:09:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Funny, how worked up some people get on the internet, what with PM's and all, lol.

Happy Holidaise Guise!


Yes, I was also amazed to get an angry ranting PM from you over this thread.

It is funny how some people get so worked up, isnt it?

I guess when you earn $5 an hour learning you just wasted $500 on something that doesn't live up to your expectations can be a real kick in the teeth.

But I do accept your apology and I hope in the future you will not get so upset about things that happen online.


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