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Posted by Sand Leaper on May-04-2002 12:55:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Cresto

LOL
seems to me that you don't know half of his tracks

pe liquid overdose - contact
dark city - new age booster
complex climate - genetic stress
progrez - beam me up
perfect state - into a different

these all sound different, and have an other build-up
don't give comment if you only know his aliases push, plastic boy and mike


I'll agree,I haven't heard those tracks,(but I have heard other things from him other than M.I.K.E,Push and Plastic Boy.But hey,I'll get those tracks you mentioned and see for myself)and like I said,there ARE exceptions,but the fact still remains that he likes the formula I mentioned in my previous post VERY MUCH,and you can see that in a LOT of his productions.Don't get me wrong,I like Dirk's productions just as much as you do,but when he uses this formula over and over again so many times,I think it's wrong to praise him for his "immense originality" like many have done here.That's really what I wanted to say with my previous post.But I'll get those trcks you mentioned,because I know that Dirk CAN be original if he wants to.(Like "Elements Of Life",one hell of an awesome tune.)


Posted by mos man on May-04-2002 17:58:

Smiley DJ

quote:
Originally posted by BTG

..am i the only one who thinks push is kinda dark? bleh.


I think you might be mate, i would say that push and his other projects are more like slightly progressive uplifting tracks...


Posted by danceaddict on May-04-2002 19:04:

Push is a very nice live show,
but Paul van Dyk RUleeeezzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!


Posted by Kurve on May-04-2002 20:59:

there is no contest djing and producing ...Paul is way more versitle and broader then push....you say pvd sound the same all the time ...listen to push last 3 productions they sound pretty similar to me ...paul used his signature kicks and synths but they are brought to many different styles of music ...from progressive,house,trance,breakbeat,etc... hes way more versitle he doesnt stick to one thing and that is what makes him much greater then push.....push is just another epic producer he does quality shit but if epic gets into a big downfall ..pvd will still make msuic thats highly domanded and highly innovative while push would still produce his same style..... all of pvd's stuf has been original and unique thats why they will alwy be more memoriable then any push song.,.... even if people might not like pvds productions ..but if another way or for an angel gets dropped more people will know and its be more memoriable then push productions ..pvd is one of the only djs/producers that keeping the trance to a level it was before ... most of producers stick with there own old shit that gets old to everyone else and it doesnt grow so ... some of you need to relize pvd is much more innovative which keeps a genre of music alive...... when has push in djing and live became anything close to pvd..... mike probably plays good songs live from his stuff but i garentee his programming and his flow with the crowd he cant even come close to live with pvd..... Pvd will still be big in 10 years ..while push wont ..enough said!!!!


Posted by infinity HiGH on May-04-2002 21:19:

quote:
Originally posted by shoXx
I like some of Push productions, but i still prefer Paul. His discography is amazing to me.

And "For an Angel" is not overhyped. It's an antheme, an antheme for trance.

greetz


Hehehe, no, Universal Nation is THE trance anthem Thats my opinion.

Productions-wise, I think its really close between the 2, with M.I.K.E having a small lead over PvD. But DJ'ing, PvD is at the top, with only 3 others that may come close to rivaling, and those are the nice people from Hybrid.

And isn't M.I.K.E also the one behind Deep Sonar?


Posted by mos man on May-04-2002 21:30:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceCluber
pvd is much more innovative which keeps a genre of music alive...


It's us, the fans who keep the genre of music alive, even if trancE becomes extinct there will always be a group to support it, look at the bad media press its had over the last two years, but still it comes back again and again


Posted by Kurve on May-05-2002 00:14:

quote:
Originally posted by mos man


It's us, the fans who keep the genre of music alive, even if trancE becomes extinct there will always be a group to support it, look at the bad media press its had over the last two years, but still it comes back again and again


yeah your right but look at this we the fans dont make the stuff we so much love..its the djs and producers who do that...so its more on them to give us the things we so much love without them we probably wouldnt ever discovered this music!


Posted by rowzbay on May-05-2002 03:15:

i'd have to say PUSH all the way because PVD is a good DJ and all but I mean his productions aren't AMAZING like Push's.

The thing is PVD makes a long of reworks or remixes or whatever and that's what he spins and people like that a lot, and all of his shit flows so well together. Because of that people think that he's a great producer, and i can't say he isn't, because that takes a lot of talent and time to do something like. Sometimes I think that he just does it for when he spins out though, so that makes him an incredible dj.

but Push makes so many more amazing remixes and original tracks than PVD.


Posted by Tukan on May-05-2002 04:10:

Aaahh.. I'm gonna go with Push.
Neither are that high on my list of great producers my I do like more of Push's songs/remixes than PvDs like:
Sunscreem Vs Push - Please Save Me (Vocal Mix)


Posted by speedracer_mec on May-05-2002 04:12:

Talking

quote:
Originally posted by TranceCluber
there is no contest djing and producing ...Paul is way more versitle and broader then push....you say pvd sound the same all the time ...listen to push last 3 productions they sound pretty similar to me ...paul used his signature kicks and synths but they are brought to many different styles of music ...from progressive,house,trance,breakbeat,etc... hes way more versitle he doesnt stick to one thing and that is what makes him much greater then push.....push is just another epic producer he does quality shit but if epic gets into a big downfall ..pvd will still make msuic thats highly domanded and highly innovative while push would still produce his same style..... all of pvd's stuf has been original and unique thats why they will alwy be more memoriable then any push song.,.... even if people might not like pvds productions ..but if another way or for an angel gets dropped more people will know and its be more memoriable then push productions ..pvd is one of the only djs/producers that keeping the trance to a level it was before ... most of producers stick with there own old shit that gets old to everyone else and it doesnt grow so ... some of you need to relize pvd is much more innovative which keeps a genre of music alive...... when has push in djing and live became anything close to pvd..... mike probably plays good songs live from his stuff but i garentee his programming and his flow with the crowd he cant even come close to live with pvd..... Pvd will still be big in 10 years ..while push wont ..enough said!!!!
damn...i love that paragraph..


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