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| Originally posted by emc^2 it's really a no win situation, imho. |
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| Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On It sounds like it's only a phase. |
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I think she may be having an affair with some guy named Jesus though. I'd definitely watch her closely... |
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| Originally posted by Turbonium She really has gone wacko, no offense. Religion and ideas of a "God" can do this to people. And I don't know why, but it seems to affect women in these sorts of ways much more than men. Women go all emotional "can't you see it's the path to salvation" over it, and are totally blind to any logic, even more than they normally are. I really don't know what to say. Maybe some time apart will snap her into her senses a bit? How old is she by the way? And you? |
She does sound pretty hung up on him though.
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| Originally posted by emc^2 he got nailed already |
Well, at least I see I will be in good company 
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| Originally posted by emc^2 29/32 I was thinking of moving out for a bit... Now, even more so. Will see if I can find a place that would let me rent on month-to-month basis without raping me. |
didn't read all the responses yet
challenge her to show you why christianity is good. this involves no endless hours of telling you about jesus. tell her to practice what Christianity actually says.
if you really want to debunk her, learn about the Bible. know your enemy. hit her with quotes from the bible whenever she does something wrong.
as for your kids, why do you not want them to go to the church?
i find the best way to get your kids to turn off from religion is seeing actual church at work. when your kids mature enough and see how much hypocrisy the supposed christians practice, they'd get turn off from christianity too.
I have no problem with Christianity. I have problems with christians not practicing what they believe.
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| Originally posted by chimera66 Maybe you should to show her you mean business. Perhaps sublet a place...how old are your kids though? |
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| Originally posted by emc^2 Not to be an emo bitch here, but I am genuinely overwhelmed with such an enormous and very sober response from you folks. Thanks for all the words of collective wisdom. <<"GROUP HUG">> Not to single out, but Astronica - didn't you read about Sodom and Gommorah? There's no room for that kind of nookie in our life anymore  I wrote a very LOOOOOOOONG story to put some things in perspective but decided to change it to CORe to spare the details. And damn, it's still pretty long. So, here's a semi-cor version. I'm Jewish, my wife is Armenian Christian (by birth). I have a half-brother from my dad's first marriage, who converted to Messianic Judaism, while I retained strong affinity for my Jewish roots, even though I'm not very religious. My half-brother and his wife came to my house as missionaries and quite successfully turned my wife to this "Messianic Jew" nonsense (which to me is as oxymoronic as "Sober Drunk" or "Smart Idiot".) My wife's submergence into religion has drastically affected our marriage - we no longer share same interests (aside from kids), she no longer respects our agreement not to influence kid's choice of religion, and totally disregards my desire not to discuss why I need to be more spiritual. She does not necessarily force me to convert to be a Christian but she wants me to be more religious and does want me to start considering and making plans for having Jesus in my life, as otherwise I can't be saved  She further feels that: - Halloween is a pagan holiday, worshiping the dead and satan, so I can't go trick or treating with my son. - (as a sarcastic joke, I suggested that X-mass is also a pagan holiday) She found some proof (e.g. some half-assed video online) substantiating that in fact it is and therfore she now does not celebrate x-mass, so - no xmass celebration in our house. - I now cannot curse around her, cannot gossip about anyone, and cannot say blasphemous things or take lord's name in vain. To which I exhaulted "Jesus fucking Christ, are you hearing your goddam self? You can't be fucking serious!" (sorry to offend anyone) - she didn't like it very much. - She thinks that she's Jewish. Yes. I know. Yup. Aha. Jew. Who never converted. That's affirmative. Yes, she does believe in Christ, nice of you to ask. Aha. What's that? Oh, yes - she does go to Synachurch - erm, temple where "so called jews pray to the holly trinity". That's right. You're on your way? Great see you here. Please make sure that the straight jacket you're bringing is size "medium". Ok, buh bye. - We now do not have cable, basic channels only, football is OK, southpark is ok as long as she's out of the room. Family guy - the same. - All my pr0n (which she actually used to watch even by herself quite often before J.C. came along) was nearly thrown in trash, miraculously rescued and stashed away in a safe place. - I am now not supposed to drink to solve my problems. In her opinion, the only way I can resolve my problems with her becoming a religious nut is to... that's right, accept Jesus. - She also feels the need to tell everyone "the good news" and is not too humble to tell her mom how she should live her life (that's while her mom works 3 jobs and her only relief is watching some russian TV, which according to my wife is "polluting her brain"). Meanwhile my wife worked for about 8 months in our entire marriage. A conversation about her choices few days ago resulted in her telling me how I am thankless pig, because I don't notice all the improvements that happened since she found God - like her running errands, making phone calls about matters, sorting the bills, and doing house work. She tells me I only see the negatives and we're all thankless a-holes for trying to keep her off the proper path, and to prove her point, she kicked a big hole in the wall, because nothing screams "I'm right" more than a nice hole in the wall to greet me every time I come home now. Speaking of holes, I don't remember last time I had some nookie. Something I used to regularily get and took for granted is now not only not offered but also not very much desired due to all the shit that's going on. So, Astronica's suggestion is purely out of the question. all the talking is really pointless, because every time we start a conversation, she says - "the Bible tells me that my path to salvation will be covered with obsticles and people who would seek to deter me, even my own immediate family, but I must be strong and resist, as salvation comes only to those who are strong and stand fast". So, that's pretty much it... in a nutshel. |
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN but, being a selfish fuck myself, i'd be packing my bags til the wife came to her senses and relinquished her fevered grip on the cross. |
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| Originally posted by emc^2 son is 6 years old, daugher is only 5 months old. (and before you say anything) I did factor in hormonal disbalance during pregnancy and post-partem mess thereafter. That's the only hope I still have remaining. That perhaps it will somehow subside as time goes by. |
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| Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On You'd be waiting for as long as it took Christ to come back. So yeah, it'd never happen. |
Does she still make your dick hard?
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| Originally posted by jennypie Does she still make your dick hard? |
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN no, ive never met her |
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| Originally posted by jennypie Does she still make your dick hard? |
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| Originally posted by emc^2 I can't share with her like I used to be able to. Heck, I can't even tell her my raunchy nasty thoughts in bed (something she used to get off to). |
Ouch.
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| Originally posted by chimera66 Is there something in particular she believes Jesus did for her? |
Fuckin bail out. Shes lost it.
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| Originally posted by emc^2 He died for her sins, he's the son of God, and he's the sole bouncer at the gates of heaven. Duh! I did try telling her that us Jews are on the VIP guest list but she wasn't buyin. |
it seriously sounds like you guys have lost touch and all you need is a re-connection. Why don't you buy tickets for a vacation instead of Chris Rock? Just the two of you (maybe plan it for when the baby is around 1 year old so your family can take care of her?) Go on a 3 day get-away, just trying to rekindle your relationship.
I think once a woman has kids (not speaking from experience), they tend to give all the love they can to their kids and forget about their husband. Maybe you need to remind her? (but also show her your support and care, without bringing up religion). And if she does bring up religion, Jesus and all the other stuff you don't care about, just listen through it and let her talk it out. She might stop "nagging" you the minute you stop putting up a wall. It sounds like she just uses it as a defense mechanism, and why that glass wall is constantly between you two.
I dunno, just my 0.02. I think all relationships are fixable, but both sides have to want to make it work.
^^^ good suggestions. I am keeping my eye open for a place, I think a bit of a break is definitely in order. At least show I mean business, coz I don't think she takes me seriously. Several times when I said I was gonna leave her, she said that marriages are made in heaven and I wouldn't leave. I asked her about marriages that are made in heaven but turn to hell, how do they end? to which she replied that marriages that turn to hell can be saved only one way. 
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| Originally posted by emc^2 Several times when I said I was gonna leave her, she said that marriages are made in heaven and I wouldn't leave. |
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