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Posted by Sushipunk on Jan-09-2008 11:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
We killed all the real jews in the Holocaust. All the ones around now are pretty much Ashkenazic jews who are Europeans who converted to judaism for social/economical reasons.


Ok...


Posted by Zild on Jan-09-2008 11:17:

If you don't know that you don't know much. Ashkenazic banker jews funded Hitler. You know why... One word... 'zionism'.


Posted by Sushipunk on Jan-09-2008 11:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
If you don't know that you don't know much. Ashkenazic banker jews funded Hitler. You know why... One word... 'zionism'.


Please, do go on. I'm interested to learn.


Posted by Zild on Jan-09-2008 11:25:

Well basically the only jews who were really sent to die in concentration camps were semites. The shepardic (sp?) jews. Were rounded up and exterminated while the big Ashkenazic banking families (bilderburg, rothschild, etc... sp?) Actually funded and supported Hitler, but that is reasonable considering they were all about a restored Israel since the late 1890s before WWI, before the British Mandate of Palestine was dissolved and turned into Israel given a huge amount of public sympathy for Zionist after WWII.


Posted by Sushipunk on Jan-09-2008 11:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
Well basically the only jews who were really sent to die in concentration camps were semites. The shepardic (sp?) jews. Were rounded up and exterminated while the big Ashkenazic banking families (bilderburg, rothschild, etc... sp?) Actually funded and supported Hitler, but that is reasonable considering they were all about a restored Israel since the late 1890s before WWI, before the British Mandate of Palestine was dissolved and turned into Israel given a huge amount of public sympathy for Zionist after WWII.


Sounds interesting.

A quick query: What did you mean when you posted:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
We killed all the real jews in the Holocaust.


Emphasis on the 'we'?

Either you're really old, and served in WW2, or...

What the fuck...


Posted by Zild on Jan-09-2008 11:33:

I'm of european descent. Europeans exterminated the semitic jews. No doubt about that.

I mean after all, 'they killed Jesus!'


Posted by Sushipunk on Jan-09-2008 11:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
I'm of european descent. Europeans exterminated the semitic jews. No doubt about that.

I mean after all, 'they killed Jesus!'


Ok.

...


Posted by Zild on Jan-09-2008 11:41:

I guess. But I'm serious about my 'white' heritage, and our belief at taking what you want at the point of a rifle. Ever read the Icelandic Sagas? You should. It will give you a whole new perspective on Western European culture.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-09-2008 11:43:

id like a reference to examine if you happen to have one lying around?

edit:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
I guess. But I'm serious about my 'white' heritage, and our belief at taking what you want at the point of a rifle. Ever read the Icelandic Sagas? You should. It will give you a whole new perspective on Western European culture.


yeah, that's exactly where i thought you were coming from


Posted by Zild on Jan-09-2008 11:48:

Tell me specifically what reference you want. And I'll try and find it. Obviously everything I'm saying in the cor is just this man's own opinion. But yeah my family came over from Spain not too long ago, and I'm only second generation American.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-09-2008 11:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
Tell me specifically what reference you want. And I'll try and find it. Obviously everything I'm saying in the cor is just this man's own opinion. But yeah my family came over from Spain not too long ago, and I'm only second generation American.


oh, im not after anything specific. any link with a something intelligent will be fine.


Posted by Zild on Jan-09-2008 11:53:

Cool. I'll try to get that here for you. Give me a day or two. Are you specifically speaking about the extermination of the Ashkenazic vs. Shepardic jews? Or something else?


Posted by Zild on Jan-09-2008 11:55:

You do know the inquisition in Spain was definitely meant to exterminate Arabs who had previously controlled all of Spain for hundreds of years. Right?


Posted by Cipha Sounds on Jan-09-2008 12:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Enigmatik
I'm sure you don't know the first thing about Islam.

Take the time to read the Koran. You may enjoy it. I am certain you will find it surprising.


A co-worker of mines speaks and reads Arabic(Chaldean decent)fluently and he's filled me in on the Quran. He told me many of the stories of the so called prophet Muhammad and the way the books contradicts itself in so many ways. He finished reading the Quran when he was 31 and he couldn't believe how fucked up it was. I could go on and one with the teachings. Maybe we'll start with Muhammad's sexual relations with his nine year old wife Aisha, or to fight off and kill Allah's opposition unless the "non-believer" decides to convert. Maybe Muhammad claiming he's been through the 7 levels of heaven and met Jesus, Moses and Abraham and claiming that g-d told him that he's to be the final messenger even though his teaching go against the Torah and the Bible.

Hey Akbar, have you heard? our holy one is jamming his dick up some fresh nine year old pussy.

..really? blessings upon him , for he is truly a messenger of g-d.


Posted by Zild on Jan-09-2008 12:43:

Seriously. I think that's what she meant by 'you'll be surprised'. But that's just me.


Posted by Dr. DAS on Jan-09-2008 17:55:

My ten-foot pole can't quite reach this thread.


Posted by montana on Jan-09-2008 18:02:

pkc, what is with you and religious threads, don't you have anything better to do?


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jan-09-2008 18:06:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i'd like to point out that in my rantings concerning religion, i do not include buddhism in that rant. i know next to nothing about buddhism, mostly because it minds its own business and doesn't seem to cause anybody any strife. ive only ever seen it "fight" for just causes.

Eh, Zen Buddhism was used as an integral part of Japanese militarism and nationalism in Japan's imperial phase up through WWII:

quote:
But Zen [Buddhism] has had strong ties to militarism -- indeed so strong, that the leaders of one of the largest denominations in Japan have remorsefully compared their former religious fanaticism during Japan's brutal expansionism in the 1930's and 40's to today's murderously militant Islamists.

...From its beginnings in Japan, Zen has been associated with the warrior culture established by the early shoguns. But the extent of its involvement in World War II has stayed mostly submerged until recently. Many people in the United States and Europe know Zen's indirect traces through the poetry of the Beats or the quietist aura of contemporary architecture and clothing.

Even John Dower, a Pulitzer Prize-winning historian of modern Japan at M.I.T., whose early interest in Japan was kindled by Zen-inspired architecture, said that Mr. Victoria's works had opened his eyes to ''how Zen violated Buddhism's teachings about compassion and nonviolence.''

...Both of Mr. Victoria's books peel back layers of the career of D. T. Suzuki, who taught at Columbia University in the 1950's and remains the best-known Japanese advocate of Zen in the West. In 1938, however, Mr. Suzuki used his prestige as a scholar in Japan to assert that Zen's ''ascetic tendency'' teaches the Japanese soldier ''that to go straight forward and crush the enemy is all that is necessary for him.''

''What Brian Victoria has written is mostly right,'' said Jiun Kubota, the third patriarch of Sanbo-kyodan, a small Zen group outside Tokyo that has also issued an apology. ''I dare say that Zen was used as the spiritual backbone of the military army and navies during the war.''

...''In Islam, as in the holy wars of Christianity, there is a promise of eternal life,'' Mr. Victoria said in an interview. ''In Zen, there was the promise that there was no difference between life and death, so you really haven't lost anything.''

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpa...n=&pagewanted=1


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-09-2008 22:26:

quote:
Originally posted by montana
pkc, what is with you and religious threads, don't you have anything better to do?


its an interesting topic. and combatting superstition (however pointlessly and lazily) is a worthy cause. and it was a response to the dickhead who came in here crying about us insulting islam.

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Eh, Zen Buddhism was used as an integral part of Japanese militarism and nationalism in Japan's imperial phase up through WWII:


thanks for that! exceptions to every rule i suppose. still, seems like a one-off at one particular place/time in history. ill cut it some slack, just this once!


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