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Originally posted by Philby the article seems to contradict your claim

philbs for a smart bloke you're pretty good at being stupid


lol

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Originally posted by christos philbs for a smart bloke you're pretty good at being stupid lol

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Originally posted by gumble not really, wiis are a pure gaming device, as nintendo have always been. therefore, they don't enter the HD debate.

Well isnt it in the last few generations that nintendo has come third in the console wars? .... for them to now be beating sony says something... (to both microsoft and sony)

dude lets get back on topic, this thread aint about console wars...

The wii aint a HD console, doesn't play movies, doesn't play music cd's and is simply a game console.

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Originally posted by sunrise3500 Well isnt it in the last few generations that nintendo has come third in the console wars? .... for them to now be beating sony says something... (to both microsoft and sony)

the article is talking about total sales, wii came out before the ps3 & the 360, it's saying that ps3 sales are picking up...

If sony and microsoft can drop their prices again i seriously doubt you'll see wii outselling anything...

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Originally posted by DJ_Ballistic If sony and microsoft can drop their prices again i seriously doubt you'll see wii outselling anything...

why? they're aiming for a completely different market. wii's are a casual system for the whole family.

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Originally posted by DJ_Ballistic If sony and microsoft can drop their prices again i seriously doubt you'll see wii outselling anything...

While I'd never buy a wii, it is innovative and people like it.

i own both simply because one does not offer the same as the other....trust me graphics aside, the wii is brilliant....my 4 y.o nephew bashes tennis with me....he'd have no clue playing fifa08 on the ps3....good for what it is.

http://www.n4g.com/tech/News-98847.aspx

Warner did not get paid out to support bluray.

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Originally posted by Aesthetic http://www.n4g.com/tech/News-98847.aspx Warner did not get paid out to support bluray.

Oh wow, I didn't know that.
And Warner Bros aren't liars either. Even though just a few weeks ago they said they're not changing to one format... and then initally when the bluray announcement was made, they denied to comment on the whole paid by BDA thing up until now.

Paramount also deny to have taken money from the HD DVD group. hah, yeah right.

Come to reality, money talks.

(There's also the incentive of being able to screw their competitors over who are HD DVD only.)

sunrise, you'll just have to accept that bluray has become favoured over hd dvd for whatever number of reasons. thats just from a series of business and marketing decisions, be they bad or good.

this isn't going to be like when DVD came out and took the best features of the 2 rival formats at the time, neither party will back down, and hd dvd looks to lose.

having the blu-ray component in ps3s gives sony a huge advantage as it puts blu ray units in houses.

I dont think it matters hugely now, as everything is still coming out on dvd, people aren't generally going to upgrade JUST for movies YET. but because someone may own a ps3, they might buy a couple of movies to watch on it in blu-ray, just because they can. when it eventually comes time to upgrade thier dvd player, they will more likely then go blu-ray.

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Originally posted by gumble when it eventually comes time to upgrade thier dvd player, they will more likely then go blu-ray.

The current generation of consoles are much more designed for being part of home theatre.
Doubt people would buy a standalone bluray player as their dvd upgrade. (Or xbox 360 users with the hd addon buying a seperate hd dvd player... although actually in the US, entry level standalone HDDVD players start under $200 which is an alternative to getting the hd addon).

And back to bluray, currently the ps3 is the only decent bluray player.

that's right i forgot sunrise, an internet article that you get your information from is legitimate as opposed to one that i get information from.. :-)

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Originally posted by sunrise3500 Oh wow, I didn't know that. And Warner Bros aren't liars either. Even though just a few weeks ago they said they're not changing to one format... and then initally when the bluray announcement was made, they denied to comment on the whole paid by BDA thing up until now. Paramount also deny to have taken money from the HD DVD group. hah, yeah right. Come to reality, money talks. (There's also the incentive of being able to screw their competitors over who are HD DVD only.)

Who cares? We've already got combo drives so you know how much you should give a fuck? You shouldn't. All you need to do is wait for the price to drop.

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Originally posted by Aesthetic that's right i forgot sunrise, an internet article that you get your information from is legitimate as opposed to one that i get information from.. :-)

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Originally posted by sunrise3500 2) they paid out a shit load of money (such as in the case of warner bros, reportedly $500 million..)

I did say reportedly as I don't think that can be taken as the full truth either. But to think warner switched for less than anything substantial, let alone for nothing is a joke. Even the HD DVD group admit they attempted to bid for it.

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Originally posted by Fledz Who cares? We've already got combo drives so you know how much you should give a fuck? You shouldn't. All you need to do is wait for the price to drop.

They'll probably both be surpassed with high def movies being sold on the internet.(As in, you download it). This has already begun.

im not saying wii is shit, just that i think ps3 and xbox will outsell it in the long run


as for your crappy war look at the facts that have been presented so far

capacity is negligible, both formats will find a way to match each other

region coding only matters to shit lickers like pkc who cant be fucked waiting for the players that will do away with it.

hd dvd allows one backup, yay how fkn useful...im guessing you want backup capabilites so you can pirate shit, in which case HD DVD and blu-ray have already been cracked...

blu-ray has a faster read rate and can fit more on the same size disc (+1 blu-ray)

hd dvd might be better quality atm, but if it's only because of the people putting the content together then all it requires is for someone using blu-ray to take advantage of its capabilities, so that doesn't technically make hd dvd better than blu-ray

hd dvd is cheaper (+1 hd dvd)

hd dvd might be cheaper atm but as we all know technology only gets cheaper, so blu-ray will come down in price, plus more and more movies are blu-ray only so you're gunna have to buy some kind of converter. which cancels it out, but like you said blu-ray specs aren't finished yet and players might need to be replaced so i'll give it that point...

so unless you can produce something that makes hd dvd technically better, other than the fact that your arch nemesis sony arent making it, like maybe blu-ray crashes everytime begic sticks his cock in the slot, they're both equally as good as the other and you're mindless backing of HD DVD is pointless coz they both do the same thing

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Originally posted by sunrise3500 They'll probably both be surpassed with high def movies being sold on the internet.(As in, you download it). This has already begun.

Probably, except it will take Australia about 400 years before the internet is fast enough and there's unlimited bandwidth so we're screwed.

yup.. dlc would only work for people who are like 1km away from their dsl2+ exchange, particularly for hi def content

i know sony are using divx for dlc soon which would squash one movie down to say 4-8gb for hi def which is a pretty smart move but like fledz said, its light years away. and what fledz says must be the truth

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Originally posted by Aesthetic and what fledz says must be the truth

I think this is sig material.

Unless I explicitly attach a disclaimer

Sony wins again.

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Originally posted by christos philbs for a smart bloke you're pretty good at being stupid lol

well not really in this case. you said ps3 is moving ahead of xbox 360 and wii in sales. you then posted an article which had a number of sales for ps3 over holidays, but that number is not compared to anything, sales numbers of xbox 360 and wii aren't mentioned, and the article also says that xbox 360 and wii have still sold more than ps3 overall. if the article had numbers for the other consoles and the ps3 had more in the same period then fine. i think i get away with not being stupid this time

I prefer HD DVD but I can promise you Blu Ray has won the war. New Line and another (forgotten the name) have just announced they will also be going BR only to.

I dont think many people realise just how big a deal Warner leaving actually is. The studio's (ie paramount) know the average consumer will now go straight to blur ray given that 70% of titles are on it. I really dont think it will be long before they jump ship to.

We just got the hd-xe1 about 2 weeks ago to so i hate having to write this but sadly me thinks this is the end for HD DVD.

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Originally posted by Fledz Probably, except it will take Australia about 400 years before the internet is fast enough and there's unlimited bandwidth so we're screwed.

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Originally posted by Aesthetic yup.. dlc would only work for people who are like 1km away from their dsl2+ exchange, particularly for hi def content i know sony are using divx for dlc soon which would squash one movie down to say 4-8gb for hi def which is a pretty smart move but like fledz said, its light years away. and what fledz says must be the truth

while internet isn't for the most part here fast enough to stream it, it is fast enough to download it overnight. and there's atleast a few decent isp's out there to download a couple of hd movies / month.

and divx? lol, that died years ago. they dont use that. h264 based pwnz it (the x264 implementation is by far best for us peasants), and is supported (along with vc1 - a ms codec! :O) by both BR/HD DVD.
x264 is what the scene uses for all their br/hd dvd rips. 4-8gb depending on length of movie .

haha.. fanboy.. i would support hd dvd if it won, regardless of my lust for the ps3.. i'd buy both players.. the writing is on the wall mate, whether you like it or not

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Originally posted by sunrise3500 (along with vc1 - a ms codec! :O)

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Originally posted by batemanscott We just got the hd-xe1 about 2 weeks ago to so i hate having to write this but sadly me thinks this is the end for HD DVD.

and the HD-A3 is now $129 in the US! :O (with 7 free movies!)

http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/01/1...-ray-10-owners/

i'm guessing ps3 owners will be okay though, and anyone stupid to buy any other br player, well stiff shit for being an idiot in the first place. lol

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