TranceAddict Forums (www.tranceaddict.com/forums)
- Music Discussion
-- sasha interview
Pages (5): « 1 2 [3] 4 5 »

quote:

Originally posted by Stasis No doubt--I was surprised Sasha praised them like he did. Maybe he was just playing "politician" and not trying to offend anyone after his "minimal is for wankers" comments earlier.

Or maybe he really does like them. Do you only listen to the music that you dj?

quote:

Originally posted by DOOMBOT Clovis, you are making some pretty ignorant statements.

Care to elaborate?

quote:

Originally posted by DiegoParra32 when isn't he lol

What about you? Just gonna sit on the fence and talk shit or actually add something to the discussion?

quote:

Originally posted by Clovis Care to elaborate?

Sure.

Why would he carry around 1000+ records when he can carry around 1000+ mp3's on a laptop? Not to mention the mass amount of promo's that he most likely receives on a daily basis, allowing him to play these tracks before they get released on a record.

He may have people set the equipment up for him at the gigs but what does that have to do with what he is doing beforehand? He is still going through the tracks before the gigs and preparing the music. What do you think is easier, listen to your tracks in a hotel room on a record or at your laptop?

quote:

Originally posted by DOOMBOT Sure. Why would he carry around 1000+ records when he can carry around 1000+ mp3's on a laptop? Not to mention the mass amount of promo's that he most likely receives on a daily basis, allowing him to play these tracks before they get released on a record. He may have people set the equipment up for him at the gigs but what does that have to do with what he is doing beforehand? He is still going through the tracks before the gigs and preparing the music. What do you think is easier, listen to your tracks in a hotel room on a record or at your laptop?

Thats not the point of what I was saying, and when i said "carry your records like everyone else" I did also mean CDs...just like everyone else. The point is, if you're going to mix off a computer system like ABLETON LIVE. Then USE IT. Otherwise, Serato, Torq etc all do the same thing, without the glamor and hype of having some fancy custom made controller and iMac in the booth, if "practicality" is the main issue, which as I pointed out, is not, for Sasha.
He's not using ableton because he's tired of burning CDs or having them get lost by the airline. (he brings CDs to gigs anyway in case the mac dies) He's using it because supposedly it adds a special element to his sets, when right now, apart from some minor side-chaining, audio-routing and looping, it doesn't. He's back to relatively quick, simple mixing and playing tracks one after the other...and frankly, thats a waste of Ableton.

One thing you can't fault Sasha for though, is that he has always done things exactly how HE wants regardless of what anyone else thinks. This will always lead to friction with those watching him closely, but it is probably one of his best traits.

quote:

Originally posted by DOOMBOT Sure. Why would he carry around 1000+ records when he can carry around 1000+ mp3's on a laptop? Not to mention the mass amount of promo's that he most likely receives on a daily basis, allowing him to play these tracks before they get released on a record. He may have people set the equipment up for him at the gigs but what does that have to do with what he is doing beforehand? He is still going through the tracks before the gigs and preparing the music. What do you think is easier, listen to your tracks in a hotel room on a record or at your laptop?

Way to miss the point completely. I'm not sure anyone else could have done so quite as thoroughly as you have

Also, I'll pay you a million dollars if you can prove Sasha does all the pre-show work himself - you really think he digs for all his own records yet?



Not a fucking chance - and boy does it ever show.

quote:

Originally posted by RJT Way to miss the point completely. I'm not sure anyone else could have done so quite as thoroughly as you have Also, I'll pay you a million dollars if you can prove Sasha does all the pre-show work himself - you really think he digs for all his own records yet? Not a fucking chance - and boy does it ever show.

Point wasn't missed at all. Just because he isn't using the program to it's full potential doesn't mean he shouldn't be using it at all. He's probably getting out of it everything that he wants to. I really don't think he is using Ableton for Clovis' satisfaction, or yours for that matter.

Do I really think he digs for all of his own records? No, of course not. Do I think he digs for music on his own though? Of course I do. How about I'll pay you a million dollars for proving me wrong since your little claims seems a bit more ridiculous then mine. Of course people are helping set up "the show" but when it comes down to choosing the tracks to be played that night, I think it's more realistic to believe it's coming from his personal taste and not someone else's.

One more thing, I think the funniest thing about all of this is how some of you can completely over analyze something like this. And on top of that, try to argue some of the points that you try and come up with. Something tells me that even if Sasha himself came here and explained all of this to you, we'd still have a flame war over it because of how ignorant you really are.

Jesus wept.

quote:

Originally posted by DOOMBOT Point wasn't missed at all. Just because he isn't using the program to it's full potential doesn't mean he shouldn't be using it at all. He's probably getting out of it everything that he wants to. I really don't think he is using Ableton for Clovis' satisfaction, or yours for that matter.

But wait - that isn't the point at all - the point is that if he's going to do all these interviews for a few years talking about how designing this revolutionary controller is going to make his sets sound unique and more dynamic than others out there, and then decide "Hey, people are calling me out on really not doing shit with it - so now I'm just going to say I do it because it's easier" is a crock of shit.

So yeah - way to miss it, Jimmy.

quote:

Originally posted by RJT But wait - that isn't the point at all - the point is that if he's going to do all these interviews for a few years talking about how designing this revolutionary controller is going to make his sets sound unique and more dynamic than others out there, and then decide "Hey, people are calling me out on really not doing shit with it - so now I'm just going to say I do it because it's easier" is a crock of shit. So yeah - way to miss it, Jimmy.

Again, you have tried to analyze the situation based on a comment he gave from an interview. I'd be more willing to spend time speculating the issue if it was brought up into a much larger discussion. You're basically throwing out everything he has ever done with the program based on 1 response he gave in an interview. Is that really fair?

quote:

Originally posted by DOOMBOT Again, you have tried to analyze the situation based on a comment he gave from an interview. I'd be more willing to spend time speculating the issue if it was brought up into a much larger discussion. You're basically throwing out everything he has ever done with the program based on 1 response he gave in an interview. Is that really fair?

No, actually - I'm basing it on responses he's given in several interviews over the years regarding his use of Ableton and Maven.

Keep swinging for the fences though - bound to knock one out of the park eventually. Law of averages, you know?

"But wait - that isn't the point at all - the point is that if he's going to do all these interviews for a few years talking about how designing this revolutionary controller is going to make his sets sound unique and more dynamic than others out there, and then decide "Hey, people are calling me out on really not doing shit with it - so now I'm just going to say I do it because it's easier" is a crock of shit."

By the way, where the hell did you come up with this? Where did he say he uses it because it's easier? Did I miss that quote?

Gather up the interviews you've read my friend, I'm calling you out on this.

quote:

Originally posted by DOOMBOT "But wait - that isn't the point at all - the point is that if he's going to do all these interviews for a few years talking about how designing this revolutionary controller is going to make his sets sound unique and more dynamic than others out there, and then decide "Hey, people are calling me out on really not doing shit with it - so now I'm just going to say I do it because it's easier" is a crock of shit." By the way, where the hell did you come up with this? Where did he say he uses it because it's easier? Did I miss that quote? Gather up the interviews you've read my friend, I'm calling you out on this.

You are the one who said he does it because it's easier, in the interview he simply says he "mixes the same way he does on vinyl" in Ableton - which implies the only reason he uses Ableton is not to carry extra shit around, hence easier.

And for grandstanding regarding all the new things he was supposedly going to do with Ableton just Google "Sasha Interview" and look around a bit - I don't care to waste my time educating you as you simply refuse to learn, time and time again.



Edit: Fuck, just search TA FFS.

quote:

Originally posted by RJT You are the one who said he does it because it's easier, in the interview he simply says he "mixes the same way he does on vinyl" in Ableton - which implies the only reason he uses Ableton is not to carry extra shit around, hence easier. And for grandstanding regarding all the new things he was supposedly going to do with Ableton just Google "Sasha Interview" and look around a bit - I don't care to waste my time educating you as you simply refuse to learn, time and time again. Edit: Fuck, just search TA FFS.

The only thing I stated regarding "ease" is carrying around the damn music. That has nothing to do with Ableton. Nice try though.

And well, if you can't prove yourself right then I guess I'll have to continue believing you are very wrong. And why would I search through billions of Sasha interviews to find what you are talking about when you could simply tell me which ones you've read where he says that? If you can remember him speaking along those lines I'm sure you could remember atleast a couple where you read it from.

Your ignorance is not now, nor will ever be, my responsibility (incidentally, nor is clarifying the points I've made - which any individual with the slightest of reading and/or comprehension skills could easily derive from my posts).



Your argument is essentially analogous to saying that because you never read a text book about the American revolution, the U.S. must still be an English colony.

You noodle that and have a wonderful day Mr. Morris.

quote:

Originally posted by RJT Your ignorance is not now, nor will ever be, my responsibility (incidentally, nor is clarifying the points I've made - which any individual with the slightest of reading and/or comprehension skills could easily derive from my posts). Your argument is essentially analogous to saying that because you never read a text book about the American revolution, the U.S. must still be an English colony. You noodle that and have a wonderful day Mr. Morris.

Well, you made some pretty specific points in which you couldn't defend. I really would like to believe you, based on reading comprehension, but I'm not that gullible either, which is why I asked you for some links to interviews in which he states the things you are claiming. Unfortunately, you didn't do that. So whether I have any skills in the art of reading or not really doesn't matter, now does it?

You have a good day too, sir.

quote:

Originally posted by RJT Your argument is essentially analogous to saying that because you never read a text book about the American revolution, the U.S. must still be an English colony.

Bwahahahahahaha!!!!

Well no, you see... we still have Sasha alive today giving interviews and based on the ones I have read and based on the sets I have heard, you are essentially full of shit. You said you read interviews where he says things that would simply back up your claims. Am I out of line for asking you to give me links to those interviews, so I can come back here and say "Thanks. I stand corrected. You were right RJT."

This is very entertaining by the way.

Come on, this was perfect!:

quote:

You have a good day too, sir.

A semi-amicable end to an unpleasant exchange, and now you had to go and take one last swing.

quote:

Originally posted by DOOMBOT This is very entertaining by the way.

It is, indeed.

quote:

Originally posted by RJT No, actually - I'm basing it on responses he's given in several interviews over the years regarding his use of Ableton and Maven.

And what he's actually doing in his sets, which supports his own quote. It's not as if he's made one ambiguous quote that doesn't correlate with his DJing, as DOOMBOT seems to be suggesting.

quote:

Originally posted by DOOMBOT The only thing I stated regarding "ease" is carrying around the damn music. That has nothing to do with Ableton. Nice try though.

Yes it does. It's directly linked by causality. He doesn't have to carry around records because he's using Ableton. That was the very logic you posited:

"Why would he carry around 1000+ records when he can carry around 1000+ mp3's on a laptop?"

Why is he carrying MP3s on a laptop? Because he has Ableton! We're all agreed that the "ease" here is that of transporting records, so don't try and muddy the water by claiming we're disagreeing over that part.

quote:

Originally posted by DOOMBOT Bwahahahahahaha!!!! Well no, you see... we still have Sasha alive today giving interviews and based on the ones I have read and based on the sets I have heard, you are essentially full of shit. You said you read interviews where he says things that would simply back up your claims. Am I out of line for asking you to give me links to those interviews, so I can come back here and say "Thanks. I stand corrected. You were right RJT." This is very entertaining by the way.

You're out of line to expect that I don't have anything better to do.



There are plenty of folks who've read and heard what Sasha has been up to the past few years - it's not going to kill (or even bother) me to have you think I'm full of shit.

Man, what's the point in having someone on ignore...

quote:

Originally posted by DOOMBOT Point wasn't missed at all. Just because he isn't using the program to it's full potential doesn't mean he shouldn't be using it at all. He's probably getting out of it everything that he wants to. I really don't think he is using Ableton for Clovis' satisfaction, or yours for that matter.

If you're happy watching a guy fade between tracks with minor EQ changes and simple mixing using a computer program designed for wonderfully creative work, cool beans. I'm not. I actually DJ with ableton and know it can do MUCH MUCH MUCH more if you put effort into it, especially with a controller like Maven, which offers ridiculous possibilities. It's the equivalent of driving an F1 car to work in the morning going 10mph under the speed limit.

quote:

Do I really think he digs for all of his own records? No, of course not. Do I think he digs for music on his own though? Of course I do. How about I'll pay you a million dollars for proving me wrong since your little claims seems a bit more ridiculous then mine. Of course people are helping set up "the show" but when it comes down to choosing the tracks to be played that night, I think it's more realistic to believe it's coming from his personal taste and not someone else's.

Absolutely he digs for some, but gets most of the rest sent to him. But the consequence of this is not surprising hard-core aficionados and fans like myself. I'd much rather watch Three or Lazarus spin since they actually go out and find music that is fucking interesting and special rather than sitting on an ftp waiting for some promos to arrive. Of course he choses the tracks he plays...I mean if he didn't at least do THAt what the hell would he really be doing at all? Smiling and turning a few knobs? Jesus

Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.