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Posted by christos on Jan-30-2008 00:19:

well armin's tracklist is mostly trance....it looks pretty sweet too!

Tiesto on the other hand, hmm. I'd like to see him play a quality trance set in the tiesto way, but I wouldn't hold my breath. I guess I want to see him play suburban train again, like soon!


Posted by EgosXII on Jan-30-2008 01:07:

quote:
Originally posted by TRANSPHERE
I wished you good people would finally wake up from your Beauty Sleeps and hang up the household names. Go and be a little more adventureous like you used to be and search out behind who the FORCE is nowadays...

A little hint just for you, but keep it in the family!

John 00 Fleming - http://www.john00fleming.com/john_00_fleming_home.html

JOOF Recordings - http://www.joof.co.uk


No! You do not have to forward any monies into my account - it was a pleasure hooking you up.


wow, i've never heard of j00f, thanks so much for enlightening me

and +1 to fledz-- lols


Posted by christos on Jan-30-2008 01:33:

quote:
Originally posted by TRANSPHERE
I wished you good people would finally wake up from your Beauty Sleeps and hang up the household names. Go and be a little more adventureous like you used to be and search out behind who the FORCE is nowadays...

A little hint just for you, but keep it in the family!

John 00 Fleming - http://www.john00fleming.com/john_00_fleming_home.html

JOOF Recordings - http://www.joof.co.uk


No! You do not have to forward any monies into my account - it was a pleasure hooking you up.


please tell me you're fvckin joking?


Posted by FiK on Jan-30-2008 03:04:

way to ruin your credibility for life transphere


Posted by radshuffle on Jan-30-2008 03:09:

Dancing Dude

quote:
Originally posted by FiK
way to ruin your credibility for life transphere


+1 +BANDWAGON

*deals out hurt*


Posted by vanilla_cola on Jan-30-2008 03:35:

Re: Re: Re: Re: F@ck Armin. Bring Tiesto

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
You're off your fucking nut. ISOS 6 is great, with a great progression, lots of prog and funky tech and trance later. At least it takes you on a journey.

Tiesto is still the king of shows.


It's verging on tech-house mostly, a little prog trance, my point was tiesto has lost his trance elements if you compare the cd to isos5 and further more plays more housey than armin. Your talking like accusing someone of playing house is an insult lol! I didn't say it's bad, just that it's HOUSE HOUSE HOUSE! :P


Posted by MiSSyM on Jan-30-2008 04:15:

I would go see Tiesto!

would be awesome if he played lots of TRANCE CLASSICS!!!!

someone should start a petition.....lol

no house during whole of his set
only banging trance!


Posted by Paulie on Jan-30-2008 22:48:

flight 643 plus back spin followed by lethal industry


In all honesty Greek Easter > dj's, clubs, gig.


Posted by sunrise3500 on Jan-30-2008 22:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Paulie
In all honesty Greek Easter > dj's, clubs, gig.

Orthodox easter.. it's not just the greeks :P


Posted by christos on Jan-30-2008 22:53:

quote:
Originally posted by MiSSyM
I would go see Tiesto!

would be awesome if he played lots of TRANCE CLASSICS!!!!

someone should start a petition.....lol

no house during whole of his set
only banging trance!



well organise one for Armin Van Ballsacken too!


Posted by Deeman on Jan-31-2008 02:08:

quote:
Originally posted by christos
Armin Van Ballsacken


House DJ?


Posted by christos on Jan-31-2008 02:20:

they're both guilty of playing some house(or form of house, electro or otherwise)...


Posted by Fledz on Jan-31-2008 07:21:

I like House


Posted by Deeman on Jan-31-2008 07:57:

House is meh but admittedly there is some decent stuff out there. I won't buy it or play it though hehe.

For me .. Progressive psy trance FTW! Most amazing sounding trance I've ever heard.

Real trance is not bound by genre imo. It's everywhere you just have to look hard


Posted by TRANSPHERE on Jan-31-2008 13:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Deeman
House is meh but admittedly there is some decent stuff out there. I won't buy it or play it though hehe.

For me .. Progressive psy trance FTW! Most amazing sounding trance I've ever heard.

Real trance is not bound by genre imo. It's everywhere you just have to look hard



+1 ...at least one member of this Forum that has the insight! Don't worry kids, we'll save you...


Posted by Tranceilvania on Jan-31-2008 15:15:

quote:
Originally posted by EgosXII

You're hypocritical enough to start a thread hating on armin, and bigging up tiesto, and then call me a fanboy for saying armin plays less "housey" than tiesto...? (i enjoy the irony you're jumpin on the bandwagon of hating "dj worshippers" tho)
so, can i say that i think armin is a better dj than tiesto if i put IMHO after it?

that comic is stupid anyway: so i can't say that i like armin without being a fanboy who is following trends?? he's a good DJ, and i had a mad time at the white party for many reasons: most of them because armin set a great atmosphere: and if you think any DJ can do that, you've seen some insanely good djs, or know nothing about djing... and i also think you'll find a majority of the crowd was impressed at the white party: and if you didn't like it, don't go next time: not too hard to figure out


Sorry for the late reply but as you know I don't hang out here as much.
I'll admit i didn't follow Tiestos late work but I must add that I've been to a few shows of him and Armin in the past. Out of the two, Tiesto had been more impressive than Armin without exception and hoping it'll be the case again.
The white party was a total disappointment for me. Maybe I miss the old days when trance was trance. DJs didn't have to play house, electro etc to keep the new crowd interested by making them say "i love this track. It was on Nova the other night". Just pure Trance. As I said if Tiesto plays same kind of shit as Armin did, Fark him too.

White party production was superb, Sound system was incredible, Mixing was flawless and the vibe was OK but the music was totally out of place. Too many brake downs, too many build ups, hardly any continoues banging tune to keep the 'dancing' crowd interested.

The 'crowd' wasn't impressed at the White Party as hardly anyone was moving other then the front center row worshippers. Most even didn't know how to dance that crap Armin threw at the decks. Even that many "shufflers" weren't around which we're accustomed to see in such events!!!??? (should have gone the Hernan Catteneo gig the day before white. Damn me)
Believe me, I have seen good many DJ's/events and I can tell apart good from bad. Armin is a superb DJ and my HD's are full of his ASOT sets, but the music he played that night was shite. full stop.
The cartoon strip posted by Sunrise3500 is hilarious and absolutely correct. Superstar DJ's farked the scene. On the other hand a handfull masters still keepin it real! Cattaneo, Digweed, Sander van Doorn, Sean Tyas, Taucher(mad kunt), Joof are to name a few (ok, the first two are Prog not Trance. no need to get smart with me).
You can bet I won't be attending any Armin only crap anymore as you suggested but that doesn't stop me saying "The King is/was naked"

We shall judge Tiesto after his show here not before...My expectations are high of him and hopefully won't be disappointed... sniff.
(goes away and watches Tiesto in Concert DVD)


Posted by eRRaTiK on Jan-31-2008 16:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Tranceilvania
Just pure Trance.


haha where have you been hiding since 2002 mate? Not going to happen unless there's some kind of "trance classics" night.

quote:
As I said if Tiesto plays same kind of shit as Armin did, Fark him too.


Yep, they're all playing a variety of similar sounding stuff these days. Just listen to some recent livesets to get an idea of the sound. Same goes for PVD and others.

From what I've read if you want some kind of trance fix similar to the days of old then psy trance is probably where you'll have to find remnants of it, amidst the bpm'd up insanity of more harder psy.

House parties/music/clubs never did have the same effect musically as trance parties did so I know where you're coming from. Of course there are exceptions for Sasha & Digweed, and Zabiela


Posted by narcism on Jan-31-2008 16:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Tranceilvania
OK but the music was totally out of place. Too many brake downs, too many build ups, hardly any continoues banging tune to keep the 'dancing' crowd interested.



yea house is a **** for that


Posted by eRRaTiK on Jan-31-2008 17:38:

but handbag house brings the handbag hotties (aka paris hiltons)!


Posted by Fledz on Jan-31-2008 23:21:

quote:
Originally posted by eRRaTiK
Yep, they're all playing a variety of similar sounding stuff these days. Just listen to some recent livesets to get an idea of the sound. Same goes for PVD and others.


Trance wise, PVD, Armin and Tiesto all play widely different tracks compared to one another.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-31-2008 23:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Deeman
House is meh but admittedly there is some decent stuff out there. I won't buy it or play it though hehe.


yeah, as a long hater of house i have mellowed a bit and quite enjoy it when ive had a few drinks at a club. but i agree, never buy or play it.

quote:
Originally posted by Deeman
For me .. Progressive psy trance FTW! Most amazing sounding trance I've ever heard.


could you give me some examples of artists? im really looking to branch out A LITTLE. it still has to have melody though. is psy only available on CD though?


Posted by sunrise3500 on Jan-31-2008 23:55:

quote:
Originally posted by eRRaTiK
but handbag house brings the handbag hotties (aka paris hiltons)!

you mean traileryard trash?


Posted by TRANSPHERE on Feb-01-2008 00:36:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN


could you give me some examples of artists? im really looking to branch out A LITTLE. it still has to have melody though. is psy only available on CD though?


These full lenght artist albums should be of assistance to you for starters...

Prosper - The Speed of Sound
Ace Ventura - Rebirth
Klopfgeister - Travel Diaries

...all on Beatport, all tracks individual digital download files


Posted by narcism on Feb-01-2008 00:38:

ppff everyone knows russian psy is the best


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-01-2008 00:50:

thanks! but...

quote:
Originally posted by TRANSPHERE
all on Beatport, all tracks individual digital download files


there is no psy on vinyl?


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