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Posted by Krispy Kreme on Feb-26-2008 21:30:

quote:
Originally posted by olwenskatha
here�s my opinion though, i think he should quit mixing and stand up for his legacy focusing in promoting the music he loves by looking for some new talent, i mean by how i look at oakenfold for my point of view, you could tell he�s arrogant, and i support the people that complaint, cause we are putting all we have on sharing what we like the most, so in a way im kind off ofended by him, cause i feel like hes making fun of it. i don�t know just my thought


thats exactly how it is. oakenfold is a greedy self centered , careless douchebag. He doesnt give a shit about the music, or his past, or about the future. The only thing he cares about is ripping people's money off with his lame ass premixed cd shows, to splurge on cocaine and plastic surgery. What a fucking loser.


Posted by olwenskatha on Feb-26-2008 22:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Krispy Kreme
thats exactly how it is. oakenfold is a greedy self centered , careless douchebag. He doesnt give a shit about the music, or his past, or about the future. The only thing he cares about is ripping people's money off with his lame ass premixed cd shows, to splurge on cocaine and plastic surgery. What a fucking loser.


loool i wouldnt put it in that agressive words, but still yeah is not fair for us mm the way i think is that, thank god they are quitting cause its time for us to take their places...
as for oakie, its just a matter of time till ppl realease that


Posted by olwenskatha on Feb-26-2008 22:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Krispy Kreme
thats exactly how it is. oakenfold is a greedy self centered , careless douchebag. He doesnt give a shit about the music, or his past, or about the future. The only thing he cares about is ripping people's money off with his lame ass premixed cd shows, to splurge on cocaine and plastic surgery. What a fucking loser.


loool i wouldnt put it in that agressive words, but still yeah is not fair for us mm the way i think is that, thank god they are quitting cause its time for us to take their places...
as for oakie, its just a matter of time till ppl realease that


Posted by phantom limb on Feb-27-2008 00:46:

Ultimately, the people win here. If one of us feel that Paul Oakenfold has completely lost his touch and that he should make like a tree and leave, then by all means, boycott his sets at clubs and not purchase his mixes. At least at this point, he will learn to drop out of the game because he won't be making a decent profit and not filling clubs. Plus, if he still does not get the big picture, then his supporting labels or agents or whatever may get the idea and take some action. I am glad that someone chose to speak their mind, but whining, as this thread has regressed to, should not be tolerated.


Posted by Krispy Kreme on Feb-27-2008 02:55:

Re: Re: Paul Oakenfold is a douchebag..

quote:
Originally posted by ********
With a name like crispy cream you'd think you'd be all over him

and like DO ME DO ME


omg im dying of laughter here, you got me good. ... not really.


Posted by camsr on Feb-27-2008 07:57:

Ahahahha. Oakie's last release was just a last grip at his fame to make a few bucks. He is DONE.


Posted by richg101 on Feb-27-2008 08:53:

Re: Re: Re: Paul Oakenfold is a douchebag..

quote:
Originally posted by Krispy Kreme
omg im dying of laughter here, you got me good. ... not really.


he did.... you grumpy little Ballsack face


Posted by Koogle on Feb-27-2008 22:38:

I gave up Oakenfold the second I heard "Faster Kill Pussycat".. What kind of shit was that?!! what a sell out

tbh it really doesn't surprise me to read this about his livesets sucking and using the same old ones.. disappointing really


Posted by phantom limb on Feb-28-2008 03:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Koogle
I gave up Oakenfold the second I heard "Faster Kill Pussycat".. What kind of shit was that?!! what a sell out

tbh it really doesn't surprise me to read this about his livesets sucking and using the same old ones.. disappointing really


Same here. You called it.


Posted by music2dance2 on Feb-28-2008 16:21:

I've heard of things like this before, even seen Oakie play and it looked athough he was playing a mix cd.

He used to be awesome, Ive seen him play many times especially between 1997-1999 at cream, gatecrasher, godskitchen, renaissance etc
when he was Simply out fo this world.

Even when tiesto was starting to gain some real attention back in 1998-2000 you could tell he was influenced by oakie sets, playing very similar tracks to oakie even the structure of sets were similar.

It cannot be denied Oakie has helped dance culture in many ways, i.e. Ibiza! He even discovered many huge artists either in dance or other genre's, e.g. salt & pepper. Anyway the list could go on for what he has done, that said from around 2001/2002 he has slowly chnaged which is fine but also gone down hill.

Now he could of carried on gracfully, its a shame he's doing what he's doing now. When ever I hear of a comment from an oakie set from the last 5 years its never been good, even when I saw him a few years back it was rubbish. Its true, if he's bored then he should either do something about it or quit or do something.

Maybe he isnt bored, but if thats the case he really should sort it out, cos to not have a good comment on any sets he's played recently is a bad thing. It could be due to getting smashed on coke all the time who knows!

I think its a shame that he has many people losing respect, for someone that had so much. I still like oakie I dont think I couldnt but its gutting to hear that he's slowly ruining his name.


Posted by Krispy Kreme on Feb-28-2008 20:47:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Paul Oakenfold is a douchebag..

quote:
Originally posted by richg101
he did.... you grumpy little Ballsack face




Posted by Watts on Feb-29-2008 19:04:

In an interview I conducted with Oakenfold he assured me his hearing is fine.

Makes me wonder about some things now.


Posted by emc^2 on Mar-20-2008 06:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Krispy Kreme
oakenfag uses the same premix everytime. in ultra 2005 he set was before tiesto.... and he "played" traffic.... before tiesto


It is only appropriate - Tiesto probably properly banged out "Southern Sun" (Tiesto Rmx)


Posted by celestial thug on Mar-20-2008 06:35:

quote:
I bet some people say "well tiesto does the same thing". No he doesnt you fucking hater, jump on the tiesto hate bandwagon some more. Every time I have seen tiesto he fucking owns the crowd and never plays the same sets over and over again. He has GREAT crowd interaction and you can tell he fucking loves what he is doing..


just a shame he is so poor at it. Okie has done a great lot for the scene as a whole, there is no denying that. If the old man is making a living by being "paul oakenfold", i dont really mind. Some of the best dj's i have heard in my life didnt use any mixing skills at all, but it didnt matter, everybody knew they had them at some point at besides, right in this moment we were in, they sure had all of us by the ...hair.

Randall
mampi swift
hype
Andy C
emok
carl cox
das saund
etc...

not technically great dj's (xept hyde and emok), but the best dj's i have ever heard.

another thing is the fact that a dj like him, has to play the 15-20 most popular anthems...every night. thats what people expect. They are not paying loads of cash to see some Dj masturbate all over himself technically, or with strange 100 copy bootlegs.. they are paying to see oakenfold play what THEY belive to be the anthems of the day. I would get sod bored with it having it like a job like that aswell.


Posted by olwenskatha on Mar-20-2008 06:46:

quote:
Originally posted by celestial thug
just a shame he is so poor at it. Okie has done a great lot for the scene as a whole, there is no denying that. If the old man is making a living by being "paul oakenfold", i dont really mind. Some of the best dj's i have heard in my life didnt use any mixing skills at all, but it didnt matter, everybody knew they had them at some point at besides, right in this moment we were in, they sure had all of us by the ...hair.

Randall
mampi swift
hype
Andy C
emok
carl cox
das saund
etc...

not technically great dj's (xept hyde and emok), but the best dj's i have ever heard.

another thing is the fact that a dj like him, has to play the 15-20 most popular anthems...every night. thats what people expect. They are not paying loads of cash to see some Dj masturbate all over himself technically, or with strange 100 copy bootlegs.. they are paying to see oakenfold play what THEY belive to be the anthems of the day. I would get sod bored with it having it like a job like that aswell.


Dude but how about if you explain to the crowd that they are being ripped off, listening to something that could off just listen in a stereo car, or stuff, and no offense but you don�t see tiesto, AVB, PVD, and the list goes on, getting bored of what they are doing, i mean if you really love what you do, you could get a bit tired but no bored and so oakenflod playing pre- sets just shows that he knows he is being a thief and he still doing it how fucked up could that be..


Posted by celestial thug on Mar-20-2008 06:54:

quote:
Originally posted by olwenskatha
Dude but how about if you explain to the crowd that they are being ripped off, listening to something that could off just listen in a stereo car, or stuff, and no offense but you don�t see tiesto, AVB, PVD, and the list goes on, getting bored of what they are doing, i mean if you really love what you do, you could get a bit tired but no bored and so oakenflod playing pre- sets just shows that he knows he is being a thief and he still doing it how fucked up could that be..


i understand where youre comming from. my own feelings, read this, my own FEELINGS are the same. I take pride in what i do, but i know a lot of people who are deemed major "pros" and i know what they have to cope with. The fact is, thepunters go to see "Paul oakenfold". period, end of sentence. And if you ask them as they go out what they thought about the fact that it is a mixtape he played, most (non producers or bedroom dj's) would say...."the point being? i came to see paul oakenfold, and i saw paul oakenfold, have good one mate and come of it"

There is no ripping off here if the punters generally speaking had a good night out, only in the idolisation of a single individual. But that itself is just as ridiculous as it is the human nature apparently.

you re right, any joeschmoe could go on stage and do what paul does now...but joeschmoe is not paul oakenfold, and thats why he is paid so much money to stand there and try not to fall over from all the snorting and vodkashots.


Posted by olwenskatha on Mar-20-2008 07:01:

quote:
Originally posted by celestial thug
i understand where youre comming from. my own feelings, read this, my own FEELINGS are the same. I take pride in what i do, but i know a lot of people who are deemed major "pros" and i know what they have to cope with. The fact is, thepunters go to see "Paul oakenfold". period, end of sentence. And if you ask them as they go out what they thought about the fact that it is a mixtape he played, most (non producers or bedroom dj's) would say...."the point being? i came to see paul oakenfold, and i saw paul oakenfold, have good one mate and come of it"

There is no ripping off here if the punters generally speaking had a good night out, only in the idolisation of a single individual. But that itself is just as ridiculous as it is the human nature apparently.

you re right, any joeschmoe could go on stage and do what paul does now...but joeschmoe is not paul oakenfold, and thats why he is paid so much money to stand there and try not to fall over from all the snorting and vodkashots.


yeah i know what you mean, and it was not my intention to make any offensive comment, but you know what bothers me the most, is the fact that he is not even beatmatching the same tunes, i mean a couple a months ago, Armin played over here, so i went to the event, and i turned out a bit dissapointed cause he played almost the exact same tunes on the last ASOT of that week, unless Remy that he played an awsome set, but since no much people knew him, they did�nt payed much attention, and it makes me wonder, right now what is more important of being a dj/producer, being handsome a people liking looking or improve your skills over the years. i dont know


Posted by celestial thug on Mar-20-2008 07:09:

quote:
right now what is more important of being a dj/producer, being handsome a people liking looking or improve your skills over the years.


A Dj and producer should always aim to make his skills as good as they can be and his crows as happy as they can be. Bit paul is neither, he is a superstar in his genre. And superstars is just another thing alltogether. They dont really need skill, in fact he could pull out his dick and "water" the first 3 rows of people and they would love him for it. thats a superstar!

So for most even famous Dj's, the first applies. Skill, perceverence, some luck and a good network is what drives them, but superstars....man.... example, is britney spears one of the greatest vocal artists of this century and the last? so why all the attention? get my point? and i took no offense from your post. i have a language barriere which i think can make me come of as more crass than i am, dont worry


Posted by olwenskatha on Mar-20-2008 07:13:

quote:
Originally posted by celestial thug
A Dj and producer should always aim to make his skills as good as they can be and his crows as happy as they can be. Bit paul is neither, he is a superstar in his genre. And superstars is just another thing alltogether. They dont really need skill, in fact he could pull out his dick and "water" the first 3 rows of people and they would love him for it. thats a superstar!

So for most even famous Dj's, the first applies. Skill, perceverence, some luck and a good network is what drives them, but superstars....man.... example, is britney spears one of the greatest vocal artists of this century and the last? so why all the attention? get my point? and i took no offense from your post. i have a language barriere which i think can make me come of as more crass than i am, dont worry


lol i get your point, i guess it depends on how do you take advante of the resources you have, if you can combined them i believe that is what makes it better :P


Posted by olwenskatha on Mar-20-2008 07:13:

quote:
Originally posted by celestial thug
A Dj and producer should always aim to make his skills as good as they can be and his crows as happy as they can be. Bit paul is neither, he is a superstar in his genre. And superstars is just another thing alltogether. They dont really need skill, in fact he could pull out his dick and "water" the first 3 rows of people and they would love him for it. thats a superstar!

So for most even famous Dj's, the first applies. Skill, perceverence, some luck and a good network is what drives them, but superstars....man.... example, is britney spears one of the greatest vocal artists of this century and the last? so why all the attention? get my point? and i took no offense from your post. i have a language barriere which i think can make me come of as more crass than i am, dont worry


lol i get your point, i guess it depends on how do you take advante of the resources you have, if you can combined them i believe that is what makes it better :P


Posted by Jono404 on Mar-20-2008 07:52:

Oakenfold was fucking brilliant in 99, you can bum tiesticles all you like, he was basically playing progtrance tracks oakie had already caned months before back then and adding some cheesy anthem shit.


Posted by SteelWolf on Mar-20-2008 11:31:

So, I just spent the past 24 hours listening to the ENTIRE essential mix world tour series... FUCKING CLASS. That right there is ALMOST enough to keep face. Tho, I think its about time he called it quits, gotta be tough on a man of his years


Posted by Magnus on Mar-20-2008 13:24:

This doesn't surprise me one bit. The last time I saw him in October of 2006, he left the decks on several occasions, walked around and was talking to people on stage. It was obvious he had a complete lack of interest in the crowd or what he was doing and was there merely for the paycheck. It was disgusting to see and his mushroom cap hair only added to the misery.


Posted by Nemesis44 on Mar-21-2008 08:52:

My experiences of Oakie have varied from the down right dreadful to the sublime.
I warmed up for him last year as I have already explained in the djbooth forum at the time.

Now I am aware that Oakie has stired up a lot of critisism in the past and I am sure that it may well be justified. I agree having someone pretend to play a DJ set is pretty cheap and I would feel cheated.

When I warmed up for the man he actually came on afterwards and totally blew the roof of the place. During the change over we even did a few back to back mixes and you can tell that the man has skills and an amazing ear for tunes. There was nothing fake or pre-recorded about that set and it goes down in history for me as one of the best I have heard ever.
He didn't have any problems with us residents being in the booth at any time and was easy to deal with and looked to be having the time of his life to be honest.
I am not some noob who is easily overwhelmed by a name as I have played with many of them and been doing this for a very long time.

In contrast you had PvD play a few weeks later and he basically started emptying the place and reportedly played the same set he played at the Turnmills earlier that month.

Now I'm not saying that Oakie didn't do those things that the thread starter said, on the contrary I have heard things like that about him too many times and where there is smoke there is fire.
But that night I got to warm up for him, he reminded me exactly what it was to be a DJ when the Dance music culture was at its peak in Europe.

Tiesto is the real deal in terms of being a DJ, he does the mixes albeit a little crap, he is into the crowd and gives a good show. Also has a fantastic ear for a good track.

The best DJ I have ever worked with though has to be Ferry. Great DJ skills, good ear for music and consistantly good productions. No attidude with the man either.

That said a lot of people still love Oakenfold, he is where he is today, plays for sell out audiences and makes insane amounts of money of royalties. He's laughing his ass off and we are bitching on an internet forum...

cheers
Nem


Posted by Jono404 on Mar-21-2008 14:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44
I warmed up for him last year as I have already explained in the djbooth forum at the time.


Was this when he played Honeyclub last year?


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