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Posted by jonze on Mar-10-2008 22:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Eddie N MIAMI

p.s. also Id like to thank Jonze for correcting Butters about the misuse of Mark "super" Dupers name.

Jonze also wishes this thread was about another QB retiring. Should have been you Grossman





i think he had it officially changed to super duper.

maybe grossman can break favre's interception record. he has to make sure that he stays around long enough though. i don't think any other team besides the bears would ever think about signing this guy to play.


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Mar-11-2008 00:06:

one of the major reasons why i don't consider favre "elite", but "one of the best" is the way he loved to force things.


Posted by King Ecnal on Mar-11-2008 05:00:

vern... honestly... EDIT* - EDDIE needs to be shown a lesson after that LONG-ass... uncalled for post...

I didn't even bother reading it...

ban him for a few hours or something....


just wow... don't ever do that again!


wow, little disappointed in you eddie...


Posted by Eddie N MIAMI on Mar-11-2008 05:06:



I suprised myself when I saw it today.

like I said be4 , I blame Vern and Jonze especially for that epic long ass post


edit: ok Lance go check it now , I edited it a bit


Posted by King Ecnal on Mar-11-2008 05:32:

ass


Posted by Eddie N MIAMI on Mar-11-2008 05:33:

quote:
Originally posted by King Ecnal
ass



Posted by verndogs on Mar-11-2008 07:01:

quote:
Originally posted by King Ecnal
vern... honestly... EDIT* - EDDIE needs to be shown a lesson after that LONG-ass... uncalled for post...


Eddie corrected himself. I think you owe him an apology


Posted by King Ecnal on Mar-11-2008 20:17:

quote:
Originally posted by verndogs
Eddie corrected himself. I think you owe him an apology


ass


Posted by Nostalgic on Mar-11-2008 22:13:

quote:
Originally posted by King Ecnal
Granted, my list only includes QB's i've been fortunate enough to see play, so no Unitas, Starr, Bradshaw, etc... which 2 of those guys I'd put before Favre.. but anyway

1. Brady
2. Montana
3. Manning
4. Marino
5. Elway
6. Young
7. Aikman
8. Hick boy, I mean Favre

thanks for playing!


and to the Numbers... why the FUCK would I argue with Numbers??? Brady set unbelievable numbers this year, so don't sit there and think i'm going to shit on his numbers!!!

yeah what? exactly... but fuck numbers, its all about winning!

and why would I attack Favre's INT habits??? Cause he's had NUMEROUS 1 TD, 4 INT games???? so what, everyone likes to throw the rock around on Sunday like a meathead... oh wait.... yeah he's #8!



LMAO...Brady over Montana? Obviously a Boston homer.


Posted by XaNaX on Mar-12-2008 19:34:

quote:
Originally posted by King Ecnal
Granted, my list only includes QB's i've been fortunate enough to see play, so no Unitas, Starr, Bradshaw, etc... which 2 of those guys I'd put before Favre.. but anyway

1. Brady
2. Montana
3. Manning
4. Marino
5. Elway
6. Young
7. Aikman
8. Hick boy, I mean Favre



Brady over Montana? You have completely lost your fucking mind. When you get down to brass tacks the NFL is about winning Super Bowls. How about Super Bowl XXIII when Montana got the ball back with 3 minutes to play and down by 3 he marched right down the field and scored the winning TD. What did Brady do? He had 30 seconds left and only needed to get to field goal range. He choked and got sacked and couldn't get the ball downfield.

I always hated the 49ers but even I can't deny Montana was probably the greatest quarterback who has ever played the game. How about 31 4th quarter come from behnd wins in his career? I'll tell you what, if my team is down by 6 with 35 seconds to play and has the ball on their own 15 yard line there is not another quarterback in the history of the game I'd rather have taking that snap than Montana.

Brady isn't even top 10 material. Without the cheating and his stacked team he wouldn't put up the numbers he put up. Give him some of the shitty Dolphins teams that Marino played on and see what Brady can do.


Posted by King Ecnal on Mar-13-2008 06:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Nostalgic
LMAO...Brady over Montana? Obviously a Boston homer.


LMAO, someone who doesn't take the time to read a few of my posts to notice i'm not a homer... but uses the STUPID, IDIOTIC term: "Boston homer."

quote:
Originally posted by XaNaX
Brady over Montana? You have completely lost your fucking mind. When you get down to brass tacks the NFL is about winning Super Bowls. How about Super Bowl XXIII when Montana got the ball back with 3 minutes to play and down by 3 he marched right down the field and scored the winning TD. What did Brady do? He had 30 seconds left and only needed to get to field goal range. He choked and got sacked and couldn't get the ball downfield.

I always hated the 49ers but even I can't deny Montana was probably the greatest quarterback who has ever played the game. How about 31 4th quarter come from behnd wins in his career? I'll tell you what, if my team is down by 6 with 35 seconds to play and has the ball on their own 15 yard line there is not another quarterback in the history of the game I'd rather have taking that snap than Montana.

Brady isn't even top 10 material. Without the cheating and his stacked team he wouldn't put up the numbers he put up. Give him some of the shitty Dolphins teams that Marino played on and see what Brady can do.


Very original, have not heard this before... is this JUICE in disguise?


Posted by verndogs on Mar-13-2008 14:10:

quote:
Originally posted by King Ecnal
LMAO, someone who doesn't take the time to read a few of my posts to notice i'm not a homer... but uses the STUPID, IDIOTIC term: "Boston homer."



Very original, have not heard this before... is this JUICE in disguise?


So start defending Brady over Montana then


Posted by XaNaX on Mar-13-2008 16:23:

quote:
Originally posted by King Ecnal
Very original, have not heard this before... is this JUICE in disguise?


You are the one that ranked Brady as the all time #1 quarterback not me. Making a ridiculous statement like that is going to open you up to all kinds of attacks. Shit, Brady isn't even the best quarterback in the NFL right now, much less the best quarterback of all time.

quote:
Originally posted by verndogs
So start defending Brady over Montana then


There is no way anyone could rationally and logically defend that position.


Posted by jonze on Mar-13-2008 16:35:

i remember having a discussion with vern a couple weeks ago aboutt his. aside from jordan, montana was the hungriest athlete pro sports has ever seen. he always seemed to be able to one up you to win.


Posted by XaNaX on Mar-13-2008 16:43:

quote:
Originally posted by jonze
i remember having a discussion with vern a couple weeks ago aboutt his. aside from jordan, montana was the hungriest athlete pro sports has ever seen. he always seemed to be able to one up you to win.


For sure. As long as Montana had the ball in his hand and the clock still had one second on it the game was never over. As heartbreaking as it was as a Bengals fan, I remember watching Montana take the field with 3 minutes left during Super Bowl XXIII and I knew we were going to lose that game. When the chips were down and it looked like he was in an impossible situation Montana was the kind of guy who just had a knack for finding a way to win the game.


Posted by verndogs on Mar-13-2008 16:45:

quote:
Originally posted by XaNaX
There is no way anyone could rationally and logically defend that position.


shhhhhh.....






































I want him to do it for entertainment purposes


Posted by King Ecnal on Mar-14-2008 00:45:

I'm not going to keep defending Brady over and over...

all I'll say is, look at my record, its clear... but because the Pats lose one Super Bowl.... yes ONE... 3 for 4... people are quick to shit on them... i.e. Vern's NYC media assholes...

i'm not defending myself to such ingrates... sorry...

I will never forgive the NYC media for their asterixxxxx bullshit all year... and I'm so close to giving up on the NFL all together... if I didn't love teh Pats so much I would... but I know we'll come back this year and PWN the entire NFL again... so thats the only thing keeping me in the game...

I'm still boycotting the sports media though, the closest thing I come to sports is in here, msn ta chats, and playing NHL 08...

and that will continue for a long while more...

so Brady > Montana...

and go ahead and rag on me all you want... just because you're all jealous you don't have the greatest QB on your team... I understand.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Mar-14-2008 04:17:

quote:
Originally posted by King Ecnal
the closest thing I come to sports is in here, msn ta chats, and playing NHL 08...

and that will continue for a long while more...

so Brady > Montana...



Ah yes, and now it is clear.


Posted by verndogs on Mar-14-2008 04:38:

quote:
Originally posted by King Ecnal
Very original, have not heard this before... is this JUICE in disguise?


Well Juice (Member of X) does argue with logic, facts and numbers...you know the stuff that makes an argument legit and valid


Posted by jonze on Mar-14-2008 04:44:

quote:
Originally posted by King Ecnal
the Pats lose one Super Bowl.... yes ONE... 3 for 4...



one superbowl? were they calling it something else when jim mcmahon and the bears beat the crap out of pats?


Posted by XaNaX on Mar-14-2008 11:50:

quote:
Originally posted by King Ecnal
I'm not going to keep defending Brady over and over...

so Brady > Montana...

and go ahead and rag on me all you want... just because you're all jealous you don't have the greatest QB on your team... I understand.


I could take the time to post the stats and career acheivements of both Brady and Montana that show that Montana is clearly the better QB. But I won't waste my time since by your argument I can see you are clearly a Patriots/Brady fanboy and are unable to apply logic or reason to this arugment and instead just blindly repeat "Brady is the best ever" even though deep down you know that is ridiculous.


Posted by King Ecnal on Mar-14-2008 22:57:

quote:
Originally posted by jonze
one superbowl? were they calling it something else when jim mcmahon and the bears beat the crap out of pats?


How'd Brady do against the Bears in 86?

quote:
Originally posted by XaNaX
I could take the time to post the stats and career acheivements of both Brady and Montana that show that Montana is clearly the better QB. But I won't waste my time since by your argument I can see you are clearly a Patriots/Brady fanboy and are unable to apply logic or reason to this arugment and instead just blindly repeat "Brady is the best ever" even though deep down you know that is ridiculous.


Dude, go nuts... compare MONTANA's career... yes its over... to Brady who is just now hitting his prime...!!!

Brady > Montana

Brady can win 3 more super bowls, and you jealous asses will never crown him best ever... and I know that... but its fun seeing everyone get so worked up... cause you all know its true!


Posted by XaNaX on Mar-17-2008 13:37:

quote:
Originally posted by King Ecnal

Brady can win 3 more super bowls, and you jealous asses will never crown him best ever... and I know that... but its fun seeing everyone get so worked up... cause you all know its true!


You are right we wont, because he isn't the best ever. He is a douchebag on a stacked team of cheaters. Without all the rest of the star players on his team he wouldn't put up anywhere near the numbers he does now. And we'll see just how good he is this year now that every defensive coordinator in the NFL knows that if you hit Brady a few times he falls apart.


Posted by Scoops on Mar-17-2008 23:14:

I know I don't post that much in the sports forum eventhough i know should be but I couldn't help but to chime in on this topic...

I've been a Packer fan since the days of Murphy, Harris, Sharpe and the Majik Man. When Favre came to Green Bay, i didn't know what to expect. I used to cringe watching him play kinda like the Giants fans did the 1st 2 years with ELI.

Favre is one of my all time favorite players. He was a great QB and ambassador for the game. Yes, he wasn't the best QB of all time but he is the best football player of all time. The way he carried himself on and off the field, the way he played the game, charisma, passion, dedication, intelligence, etc. Favre had all the aspects of wich that makes a football player a legend.

Being from Jersey, I jumped on any oppurtunity to see the Packers play when they came to Philly, or the Meadowlands. I even made it out to Green bay a few times to see a few games. I was lucky to see Favre in his best and his worst.

Favre has done alot for that community to help restore that franchise as one of the premier franchises in the NFL. I would hate to see him return to the NFL the way Reggie White did
Favre helped



as for the other points on this thread, i will say this esp in regards to Brady. he is the product of the system. You could put Dave Brown on the Patriots team and you would have the same result. Brady did not deserve the MVP this year, that award should have gone to Moss. the MVP is awarded to the player who is most valuable to their team. MOSS was the difference maker, not Brady


Posted by verndogs on Aug-06-2008 01:34:


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