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Posted by XaNaX on Apr-22-2008 14:54:

1999 was the high water mark for trance, shit maybe you could extend that to 2000. Since then it has and continues to go down the shitter


Posted by bamski on Apr-22-2008 14:56:

"And then there was Techno"


Posted by MeLLyMeL on Apr-22-2008 15:07:

I think Armin fan boys are some of the Most Annoying posters on this forum.

Just because he's your favorite doesn't have to mean that everything the man touches is gold.

Complete shit. Get your own personality.


Posted by Ian on Apr-22-2008 15:12:

quote:
Originally posted by AustralianGQ
LOL at u for thinking ginos or kids listen to trance and double LOL for thinking most trance now is generic pop dance. hey u can have ur opinion all u want.....


That's exactly what it is. It's watered down kiddy music on the whole. Just look at Armins new album as a prime example. Then again I wouldn't expect you to know what real trance music is or was, there is still some around but it's hard to find because of the amount of gash around.


Posted by d-miurge on Apr-22-2008 15:43:

quote:
Originally posted by AustralianGQ
LOL at u for thinking ginos or kids listen to trance and double LOL for thinking most trance now is generic pop dance. hey u can have ur opinion all u want.....


Yeah it's not for ginos or kids, it's for real men that wear women panties.


Posted by XaNaX on Apr-22-2008 15:54:

quote:
Originally posted by d-miurge
Yeah it's not for ginos or kids, it's for real men that wear women panties.


I think it is women's jeans he wears


Posted by noikeee on Apr-22-2008 16:03:

quote:
Originally posted by MeLLyMeL
I think Armin fan boys are some of the Most Annoying posters on this forum.


To be fair, there aren't many still around. I think we've scared most of them away.


Posted by RapidFire on Apr-22-2008 16:22:

quote:
Originally posted by chimera66
i don't think i've ever heard anyone say 98 - 03 were the "bad years"


i guess you've never read ishkur's posts?


Posted by KilldaDJ on Apr-22-2008 16:30:

pretty much non existant.


Posted by PETRAN on Apr-22-2008 18:16:

quote:
Originally posted by DuBam
"And then there was Techno"




Nobody listens to techno!


Posted by Mr Game+Watch on Apr-22-2008 18:17:

The epic stuff has been pretty snore-inducing for the most part, this year... too many remakes of older songs, too many vocals. Can't even remember any standout tracks. I'm much more into the proggier sounds lately - even stuff like Anjunadeep.


Posted by TranceArmstrong on Apr-22-2008 19:43:

The trance I've listened to of 2008 has been shit besides J00F's Psy Trance Euphoria / 0.0dB Artist Album


Posted by Trance-M on Apr-22-2008 19:48:

Nothing to complain about by me......nice when there is enough to listen that meets your taste doesn't it?


Posted by skip on Apr-22-2008 19:50:

i haven't found good new trance in ages (apart from a few exceptions).

trance now couldn't be much worse. and this really makes me sad/mad/irritated because trance is my favorite genre.


Posted by Dj Skez on Apr-22-2008 20:07:

It's about as pleasing as hearing a child being molested.


Posted by MichaelBoogerd! on Apr-22-2008 20:13:

Lamai - Troubled Soul (Paul Webster Dub) is about as much as i can stomach from recent months...

I can see a number of factors that makes modern day trance complete pants starting with our accessibility to this genre with every pro dj and his fanbase now flooding the airwaves and internet space with mixes, radioshows and livesets.

Tunes that should be as fresh and interesting as their '02 counterparts never have time to bubble under as that "unknown" material anymore, and in a couple of weeks its forgotten.

The first point is giving random wannabe producers the opportunity to churn out tracks month after month without any thought on quality, where in the past their label contact would've wiped their ass with most of the stuff passing for releases these days.

As most of us have listened to trance for longer than 3-4 years, every soundbank and breakdown is sounding like tried&tested method for us all,that only sounds good, when done so brilliantly or unorthodox to surprise us and interest us in a trance record again.

Filter through all genres on download sites and hype forums like these, and you may still find some quality hidden amongst all the crap.


Posted by Trance-M on Apr-22-2008 20:27:

quote:
Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd!
Lamai - Troubled Soul (Paul Webster Dub) is about as much as i can stomach from recent months...

I can see a number of factors that makes modern day trance complete pants starting with our accessibility to this genre with every pro dj and his fanbase now flooding the airwaves and internet space with mixes, radioshows and livesets.

Tunes that should be as fresh and interesting as their '02 counterparts never have time to bubble under as that "unknown" material anymore, and in a couple of weeks its forgotten.

The first point is giving random wannabe producers the opportunity to churn out tracks month after month without any thought on quality, where in the past their label contact would've wiped their ass with most of the stuff passing for releases these days.

As most of us have listened to trance for longer than 3-4 years, every soundbank and breakdown is sounding like tried&tested method for us all,that only sounds good, when done so brilliantly or unorthodox to surprise us and interest us in a trance record again.

Filter through all genres on download sites and hype forums like these, and you may still find some quality hidden amongst all the crap.


Do you call these crap or quality then, because I'm listening trance since 1994 and think both are great?

Andy Blueman - Time To Rest (Daniel Kandi Bangin' Mix)

Ferrin & Low - Westworld (Main mix) (Thanks Chrisday, for the tip)


Posted by Sykonee on Apr-22-2008 21:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance-MB
Do you call these crap or quality then, because I'm listening trance since 1994 and think both are great?

Andy Blueman - Time To Rest (Daniel Kandi Bangin' Mix)

EQ'd to the maxx uplifting trance... whooshing-washing ultra-produced synths... full-stop breakdown/build that lasts nearly two minutes... a hook that is nice but won't be remembered by the end of the year... sounds pretty run-of-the-mill as far as this kind of trance is concerned.

quote:
Ferrin & Low - Westworld (Main mix) (Thanks Chrisday, for the tip)

As above, although the full-stop breakdown/build is a little shorter and there's less emphasis on the whoosh-washing, which lets the hook stand out better.


So what's so great about these again?


Posted by rizo on Apr-22-2008 21:16:

Menno de Jong at 1015 in San Francisco and The Digital Blonde guest mix on GTG was just PvD set at Space for WMC was decent. other than that its been ok so far. i havent checked out ASOT since October so I dont know how that show is doing but can't imagine it being any better than pre 03, maybe 05.


Posted by Paradox Lost on Apr-22-2008 21:27:

I used to check out ASOT and GDJB regularly in order to update myself on any decent material, but it became increasingly apparent as 2007 rolled on that there was very little decent material to be had, and I essentially just placed tuning in to those shows (and many other shows) quite low on my listening priority lists.

Sure enough, 2007 was one of the worst years I could remember, though I would hope things have taken an upswing this year.

But at this point, I'd probably be fine just picking up an occasional major Trance mix comp, which essentially summarize the prominent things I missed. There really isn't much of a reason (at least for me) to consistently tune in to most of these shows, as there's just so much terrible content being broadcasted on a weekly basis.


Posted by Barachem on Apr-22-2008 21:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance-MB
Do you call these crap or quality then, because I'm listening trance since 1994 and think both are great?

Andy Blueman - Time To Rest (Daniel Kandi Bangin' Mix)


Qualitatively well produced standard track.
Too anthemy for me btw.
You like it because of your taste.

quote:
Originally posted by Trance-MB Ferrin & Low - Westworld (Main mix) (Thanks Chrisday, for the tip)


A tad nicer for my ear, but still quite standard.

I dunno, but 2008 is lacking for me as far as trance is concerned.


Posted by Trance-M on Apr-24-2008 19:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Sykonee
EQ'd to the maxx uplifting trance... whooshing-washing ultra-produced synths... full-stop breakdown/build that lasts nearly two minutes... a hook that is nice but won't be remembered by the end of the year... sounds pretty run-of-the-mill as far as this kind of trance is concerned.


As above, although the full-stop breakdown/build is a little shorter and there's less emphasis on the whoosh-washing, which lets the hook stand out better.


So what's so great about these again?



Then your discription is what makes it great, because that then I think descripes my taste.

So I guess I like max uplifting trance, ultra synths, full stop long breakdown/build ups.

So all TA's with this taste probably would like them.
Obviously you're not one of them.


Posted by Cobalt on Apr-24-2008 19:29:

If there were a good alternative to TA, many of us would be elsewhere.

As much as I love trance "back in the day" and the collection of experienced ears that continue to post here, the site isn't really about trance anymore, and hasn't been for a few years now. Perhaps as an exercise in history and nostalgia, yes, but not as a voice for the present genre. So it's a bit meaningless to ask about opinions of trance in 2008, because TA isn't all that concerned with "trance" in 2008.

Barring any unlikely revivals, this trend will probably continue. I'd love to be excited about something new in trance, but it would take big changes in attitude and style for that to happen.


Posted by Sykonee on Apr-24-2008 19:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance-MB
Then your discription is what makes it great, because that then I think descripes my taste.

So I guess I like max uplifting trance, ultra synths, full stop long breakdown/build ups.

So all TA's with this taste probably would like them.
Obviously you're not one of them.

I don't mind them on occasion, but hearing them over and over and over again grows ridiculously redundant, predictable, boring, cliche, and poo.


That said, I found Menno de Jong's Intuition Sessions from last year one of the better trance sets I've heard in quite some time.


Posted by Trance-M on Apr-24-2008 19:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
If there were a good alternative to TA, many of us would be elsewhere.

As much as I love trance "back in the day" and the collection of experienced ears that continue to post here, the site isn't really about trance anymore, and hasn't been for a few years now. Perhaps as an exercise in history and nostalgia, yes, but not as a voice for the present genre. So it's a bit meaningless to ask about opinions of trance in 2008, because TA isn't all that concerned with "trance" in 2008.

Barring any unlikely revivals, this trend will probably continue. I'd love to be excited about something new in trance, but it would take big changes in attitude and style for that to happen.


Maybe we should start using "Ancient Trance", just not to confuse TA's who even like 2008 Trance like me.


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