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Posted by Arya on May-23-2002 03:44:

Sounds like a very freaky experience Spad.. I'd definately be weary of going back to sleep. Most likely it was probably at least partially due to the drugs though.


Posted by JM on May-23-2002 06:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Arya

Most likely it was probably at least partially due to the drugs though.


ouch

hmm.....i sometimes have dreams that freak me out,...but besides that....i'm cool...besides,....i dont remember having too cool of dreams though...usually if i remember a dream, it's kinda stupid.

>JM<


Posted by Palivar on May-23-2002 06:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Spad
I've been trying to lucid dream since I read through that site that was posted. I didn't really use any of the methods mentioned other than trying to keep lucid dreaming at the front of my mind whilst I tried to fall asleep.

It's 4:29am. This happened to me about 30 minutes ago. I've tried to be completly honest with what I was feeling and describe things as I saw them at the time, rather than how I remember them now.

I was on a roundabout, there was a bus stopped and a kid put his dog on. The bus then drove off before the kid got on. I tried to run around the roundabout the other way to stop the bus and suddenly I realised I was dreaming and I was back in my bed again. My ears were screaming, like the most powerful wind and it sounded like pain. I couldn't move. I've had sleep paralysis before but it's always been and gone quite fast, I've never realised til the next morning what happend. This time I was aware, I knew I was dreaming and I knew it was sleep paralysis but I couldn't control it. The following is what happened next as I remember it, I'm not 100% sure it happened in this order though. There was a cloud thing in the middle of the room, it moved like a flying carpet would and came straight for my head, then swooped around the room and did it again. Very aggressivly. There was a man standing still at the end of the bed, a bit to the left, but he looked like a column of smoke, but contained as though it was in a tall, thin glass tube.. I concentrated on moving my arm and managed to get out of bed. At this point I thought I'd broken the paralysis and that I was awake again. I moved into the centre of the room and there was something there, a pile of clothes or something, very tall (about as tall as me) and I picked up something (I think it was a pair of shorts) and dropped it, it fell sideways towards my head. I realised gravity was all fucked up and everything was being pulled towards my head instead of downwards. I sensed the cloud/towel thing in the room again and moved towards the door. As soon as I moved I was pulled towards the wall as though the room was at an angle and the wall was the new centre of gravity. I was pulling myself along the wall towards my bedroom door to try and get out, then I realised I was naked (I wasn't IRL, I had a pair of shorts on) so I couldn't leave my room. At this point I realised I was still dreaming and instantly was back in my bed again. I couldn't move and the cloud/towel was flying at me again. Once again I concentrated on moving my arm and this time I felt it move and I felt reality coming closer. Then I was awake for real. I'd been crying.

Anyway now I'm fucked up. I'm going to be totally honest, I think this may have a lot to do with drugs as I've been silly in the last 7 days and done a lot more than I usually would. I've had bad paranoia today which I think is due to some speed I took at the weekend.

When I first woke up I was petrified, and then I went calm and decided that it was a lucid dream and it was a nasty one, but if I tried again right that second I could have another one and try to control it. Afterall it's only a dream. But 5 minutes later my body was shivering, every time I got to the point of nearly falling asleep I heard whispering and woke up.

Anyway I just thought I would share this with everybody, you can draw your own conclusions. All I can say is this has made me

a) very weary about fucking with my dreams
b) very scared of falling asleep, I know I wont sleep again tonight.

That's it. I've been as honest as possible. Some of it probably sounds a bit fucked up and I probably look like a total wimp in other parts but there you go. I needed to get it all down before I forgot it.

edit: a couple more things.

I want to make sure I convey properly how completly mortifying it all was as it comes across like I was just confused, but all the way through the dream there was this raw fear in me, I was terrified and panicing.

Somebody mentioned this may not be lucid dreaming as I wasn't controlling it. I dunno, the fact that I was aware I was dreaming and aware it was sleep paralysis, and the fact I conciously bought myself out of it at the end mean that by my interpretation of things it was. But maybe I'm wrong if my interpretation of what lucid dreaming is.




"You're one fucked up dude. I mean, look at you. You're like so fucked up with all your lucid dreams and $20 drugs. I mean seriously, you need to stop all that shit."


Posted by Spad on May-23-2002 07:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Palivar




"You're one fucked up dude. I mean, look at you. You're like so fucked up with all your lucid dreams and $20 drugs. I mean seriously, you need to stop all that shit."


ROFL. You're right Palivar It'll never happen tho

Feeling better today, lets see if I'm the same after 8 hours at work. Grr.


Posted by DJ Sunburn on May-23-2002 21:27:

Shame / Disagreement

bad bad Spad...drugs are bad for your dreams...you were probably suffering through extreme hallucinations...not dreaming. Just lay off the drugs...but thanks for being honest with us about everything.


Posted by ClubHarder on May-23-2002 22:09:

Sad Scary shit

quote:
Originally posted by Spad . There was a cloud thing in the middle of the room, it moved like a flying carpet would and came straight for my head, then swooped around the room and did it again. Very aggressivly. There was a man standing still at the end of the bed, a bit to the left, but he looked like a column of smoke, but contained as though it was in a tall, thin glass tube.. I concentrated on moving my arm and managed to get out of bed.


Man thats fuckin scary shit !! U bastard now I KNOW that I'm gonna be thinkin bout what u said before I go to sleep 2nite n I'm gonna be scared n will dream about that weird swooping think n a weird lookin guy
I'll write down the dream I had as soon as I wake up n type it up here. I'v had a bout 3 lucid dreams, but they've all been jus weird shit, nothin scary tho. My first one occured when I was about 13 (now 17) N i remember it was nite time n I was in a parking lot with my sisters (??) and a load of people were shooting at us all, then for sum fucked up reason my CDT teacher was there n thats wen i realised I was dreaming. I remember sayin "fuck u sir" to him (hahaha, this is makin me laff) n then I thought "Rite I'm dreaminm thats means I cant get hurt" so I turned around n started runnin towards the people who were shootin at me, probably to beat em up or sommat, but I woke up before i go to them

Whats teh type of dream called when ur about to have a fight n u realise that u cant punch hard n its really hard to move fast n u know ur gonna get twatted ?? Is that paralysis thingy?

Sweet Dreams..........


Posted by Uisgdlyast on Jul-16-2002 22:39:

....

Just thought i would bump this up because i just got interested in it.


Anyways after only about 3 days i was able to have a lucid dream, without writing any of them down i can still remember them pretty well.
I was in my bathroom with some girl(i dont know why) and i thought, "When am i gonna have a lucid dream.. maybe this is one" so we did a test with the mirror and i remmeber not seeing a reflection and then i was like "Yeah go away bitch" and started spinning. I was about to go to go downstairs in my house but went to my room and woke up. I'm gonna try to get more control over my dreams so i can actually fly or something cool.

Anyways these are also related to OBE's


Posted by whiskers on Jul-17-2002 00:37:

quote:
Originally posted by boomp
this thread is your ticket to the loony bin!!!










oh my god, people, you can't possibly be having a real serious discussion about this with all the arguments! as long as we're talking about this, let's talk about mind control. too much vanilla sky, eh?

heh, fine. i always wake up when i realize that i'm dreaming, but i only realize that when my dreams are very realistic.


Posted by whiskers on Jul-17-2002 00:41:

quote:
...to understand your dreamsymbols (they are there so why not just ask them what they mean?...


shit, now you got me interested in this... that'd be so funking cool, to walk up to, say, a tv in your dream and ask it "what's the meaning of life" and to hear a legitimate lecture about the subject... freak, damn, i'm hooked on dis shiznit!

edit: question, can you somehow hurt yourself by lucid dreaming? like mentally or even worse, physically? do you absolutely have to write your dreams down?


Posted by Uisgdlyast on Jul-17-2002 03:36:

i didnt write mine down.. but i have a pretty good memory about stuff. I'm gonna get serious and write them down now though, it sounds weird but for the amount of cun you can have asleep.. i'll do it

I always wanted to meet Lara Croft.. the Tomb Raider 2 model of her, now i finally can


Posted by randummboy on Jul-17-2002 06:13:

awesome thread


Posted by Astronaut on Jul-17-2002 19:48:

I have lucid dreams sometimes, well at least I know sometimes that i'm dreaming. I used to have nightmares often when i was younger - like 3 or 4 times a week & I was afraid of going to sleep cause I knew I would have nightmare. But one day (night) I realized that I was dreaming, I decided to stop the nightmare myself. I was in a room where freaky thinkgs happend to me & I jumped out of the window to wake up. I did it because I knew that I couldn't die in my dream & you wake up before it would happen.
So thats how I controled my dream.


Posted by whiskers on Jul-18-2002 02:31:

so let me get this straight. i know that we dream every night. so is it that those dreams are always very realistic, but most of the time we forget them and even more often we don't know that we're dreaming?

p.s. hey astronaut, nice custom status!


Posted by zzleeper on Jul-18-2002 05:50:

Lucid dreams re great.. i ve had lucid dreams since 98-99

But Out of Body Experiences (OBE) are what give me more curiosity.. i have a friend that swears that he had those experiences.. when he knows he is awake and his soul leaves his body,...

I ve never had anything like that besides some "paralysis" that has happened to me only 3 times in my life, all of them when i was under extreme lack of sleep circunstances..

I was going to bed, then fell asleep very fast.. but it wasnt a normal dream.. i heard LOUD noises around me, and felt like i was in a russian mountain... then i woke up (opened my eyes) and continued listening to that noise.. i tried to move but i couldnt.. i knew i was awake, i had my eyes open, i could see my desk and the window...

After I realized I couldnt move, I tried to scream.. but I couldn't scream neither.

Then, after a few moments (seconds?) i could move and speak again...

I rushed to my PC and searched the net for weird stuff like that.. I found out that what happened was that my body thought i was still sleeping, and that the mechanism that stops me from moving/speaking in real life when I move/speak in a dream was still on...

Anyone has experienced something like this?


Posted by noikeee on Jul-18-2002 20:23:

quote:
Originally posted by zzleeper

Anyone has experienced something like this?


once I woke up strangely early and I was paralised, wanted to move myself but I couldn't, it was scaring as hell, trust me, because in the previous day I had seen a tv program about alien contacts when someone was paralised just like me but saw an alien in his room (I don't remember seing anything, I guess I was too scared to try to move my eyes).


Posted by TranceSeeker on Jul-18-2002 20:59:

I experienced something very awsome myself dunno what it is called.

I experienced the trasition between awake and fall asleep, sounds really impossible but i had it once in my life.
How many times did u think about "I wanna feel when I'm going into a sleep."
Well it was awsome, I hope it will happen again someday.
That night I was very tired and just on the moment I felt asleep something weird happened, I got into sleep but I felt, I realised it somehow, damn I can't explain, it's just unexplainable...

Someone experienced this too?


Posted by SmellsExcellent on Jul-18-2002 23:07:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceSeeker
I experienced something very awsome myself dunno what it is called.

I experienced the trasition between awake and fall asleep, sounds really impossible but i had it once in my life.
How many times did u think about "I wanna feel when I'm going into a sleep."
Well it was awsome, I hope it will happen again someday.
That night I was very tired and just on the moment I felt asleep something weird happened, I got into sleep but I felt, I realised it somehow, damn I can't explain, it's just unexplainable...

Someone experienced this too?



yeah, quite often actually.. but mpost of the time I wake up again...

it is really coo though!

-m


Posted by Surreal1221 on Jul-18-2002 23:26:

Sorry didnt read all the replies, but if you guys have seen Vanilla Sky. . .it may ring a bell. Not going to go anymore indept in the movie as it does take a few times of viewing it to understand it all the way.


Posted by zzleeper on Jul-19-2002 03:34:

quote:
Originally posted by _The_Storm_


once I woke up strangely early and I was paralised, wanted to move myself but I couldn't, it was scaring as hell, trust me, because in the previous day I had seen a tv program about alien contacts when someone was paralised just like me but saw an alien in his room (I don't remember seing anything, I guess I was too scared to try to move my eyes).


Something like that happened to me last year... (that was the third time I had a "paralisis")..

I felt something in the room... i felt like someone very evil was in the room.. i was kinda scared but i just waited and i was back to normal again...

About the "falling asleep" post... well yeah thats really cool.. strange to explain but cool..

Anyway I haven't have lucid dreams or anything like that at least since I started classes this year.. maybe too much stress or something...


Posted by whiskers on Jul-19-2002 04:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Surreal1221
Sorry didnt read all the replies, but if you guys have seen Vanilla Sky. . .it may ring a bell. Not going to go anymore indept in the movie as it does take a few times of viewing it to understand it all the way.


yeah, i already mentioned it a bit earlier, but that's some crazy shit in there and i like it very much.

quote:
Originally posted by zzleeper
Something like that happened to me last year... (that was the third time I had a "paralisis")..

I felt something in the room... i felt like someone very evil was in the room.. i was kinda scared but i just waited and i was back to normal again...


damn it man, you're scaring the hell out of me now...


Posted by Blue. on Jul-19-2002 04:48:

I have before and it fu*cking rocks . It's the most amazing thing in the world but I don't dream much anymore .


Anyone know why some people can't dream? I get like 1 dream a month at best. I know u dream every night but I can remember at least a little bit like once a month or so any tips cause I love to dream.


Posted by SmellsExcellent on Jul-20-2002 19:50:

quote:
Originally posted by trance_n_dance
I have before and it fu*cking rocks . It's the most amazing thing in the world but I don't dream much anymore .


Anyone know why some people can't dream? I get like 1 dream a month at best. I know u dream every night but I can remember at least a little bit like once a month or so any tips cause I love to dream.


Every time you wake up and remember a dream or any bit of a dream write it down.. make this a habit. You will soon remember tons fo dreams - i remember at least 3 a night usually more. When you can do this very well you'll start to be able to do Lucid Dreaming.

cheers!
-marc


Posted by Greedy on Jul-22-2002 07:29:

Funny, I always have this happen to me. Lots of times, Ill have this dream right, then the alarm goes off and so I wake up and turn off the alarm clock. Now im fully awake and then I go back to bed and go back to my dream knowing that I was dreaming. Go figure, this shit never works when Im having a sexy dream.
Besides the point, has anyone experienced something in real life where they think they might have experienced it in a dream? Not actual events because thats too freaky, but like when you go somewhere new and you know that youve been there before.
BTW, "I see dead ppl"
Hope I didnt freak anybody out . . . .


Posted by DJ Sunburn on Jul-22-2002 11:49:

Once again I do not have my lucid dreaming guide so I can not send it to anybody. I'm sorry but when I find it I will gladly post it for people to use.


Posted by SmellsExcellent on Jul-22-2002 12:41:

i saw vanilla sky last night and HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!! its so wierd to see things in the movie that can and would happen in a lucid dream or any dream for that matter, but all on a screen, documented, so you can watch over and over. anyways, if you wanna read on Lucid Dreaming, go to LD4all.com (compliments of DJ Sunburn)

Cheers!
-marc


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