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Posted by Clovis on Apr-25-2008 18:03:

quote:
Originally posted by stev�sto
no. you just happen to like his music, thats all. so what if i make an offensive remark questioning him being genuine.



No, because INDEPENDENT of whether or not I like Radio Slave, he's been DJing in clubs since 1992 and been a fixture in the UK scene and dance music in general since then. The guy has a history. He's paid his dues to get where he's at, so to say he must have sucked a lot of cock to get where he is is flat out wrong and an amazing display of total ignorance.

And saying Radio Slave is an unoriginal name for production whilst going under the forum guise "stev�sto" is fucking comedy.


Posted by RJT on Apr-25-2008 18:06:

HMmmm. Yes, this thread has gone well.


Posted by stev�sto on Apr-25-2008 18:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
No, because INDEPENDENT of whether or not I like Radio Slave, he's been DJing in clubs since 1992 and been a fixture in the UK scene and dance music in general since then. The guy has a history. He's paid his dues to get where he's at, so to say he must have sucked a lot of cock to get where he is is flat out wrong and an amazing display of total ignorance.

And saying Radio Slave is an unoriginal name for production whilst going under the forum guise "stev�sto" is fucking comedy.


man you are one angry little guy. chill out. what you described is whats wrong with the dance world. there are so many djs out there that are permanently fixed as a resident someplace that have no business being up there. but they stay up there, boring the piss out of everyone and clearing dancefloors, because they "paid their dues", or they came out with a track that got heavy rotation. the fact that he's been doing this since 1992 is scary, what has he been doing wrong all these years i wonder? and yea i think my name is a helluva lot more interesting than radio slave, not as a dj name but a forum name.


Posted by RJT on Apr-25-2008 18:13:

Steve:



Straws: Keep grasping at them.


Posted by Clovis on Apr-25-2008 18:16:

quote:
Originally posted by stev�sto
man you are one angry little guy. chill out. what you described is whats wrong with the dance world. there are so many djs out there that are permanently fixed as a resident someplace that have no business being up there. but they stay up there, boring the piss out of everyone and clearing dancefloors, because they "paid their dues", or they came out with a track that got heavy rotation. the fact that he's been doing this since 1992 is scary, what has he been doing wrong all these years i wonder? and yea i think my name is a helluva lot more interesting than radio slave, not as a dj name but a forum name.



Radio Slave bored the piss out of no one when I saw him play in Miami and in LA last, in two separate clubs full of dancing folks. So really, again, you're talking out of your fucking ass.

Also, angry? Not so much, but I am going to call you the fuck out when you refuse to understand that your narrow POV is incorrect and factually wrong.


Posted by stev�sto on Apr-25-2008 18:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Radio Slave bored the piss out of no one when I saw him play in Miami and in LA last, in two separate clubs full of dancing folks. So really, again, you're talking out of your fucking ass.

Also, angry? Not so much, but I am going to call you the fuck out when you refuse to understand that your narrow POV is incorrect and factually wrong.


i saw him in miami, it was boring. theres other people in this thread that have already mentioned a similiar experience. how can my POV be factually incorrect? facts? what facts? this is a difference of opinion. im making an assumption his music has gotten exposure because of good marketing and promotion and, as you pointed out, because he's been in this since forever.


Posted by Clovis on Apr-25-2008 18:26:

quote:
Originally posted by stev�sto
i saw him in miami, it was boring. theres other people in this thread that have already mentioned a similiar experience. how can my POV be factually incorrect? facts? what facts? this is a difference of opinion. im making an assumption his music has gotten exposure because of good marketing and promotion and, as you pointed out, because he's been in this since forever.


The fact that you thought he was boring is your opinion, and a singular one, since the majority of the people there enjoyed themselves a lot. He managed to refill a thinning crowd at 5am by dropping a new tune him & his gf have made which is really good and unlike most of his other stuff.
As for the facts, I just posted them. He's been in it for years and is respected by his peers, and most folks in the industry, no dick sucking has gone down whatsoever. If anything he has folks trying to get on his jock all the time hoping for something in return. That is not my opinion, that is fact, I.E. what is actually going on IN THE WORLD, and not what is going on in the made up story of Radio Slave's success in your head.


Posted by elFreak on Apr-25-2008 18:29:

oh the lulz


Posted by Az on Apr-25-2008 18:35:

it's become glaringly obvious to me in the last month or so that rob doesn't do nearly enough drugs


Posted by RJT on Apr-25-2008 18:39:

Those days are pretty far behind me at this point.

Just don't enjoy doing them so much anymore.


Posted by Clovis on Apr-25-2008 18:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Az
it's become glaringly obvious to me in the last month or so that rob doesn't do nearly enough drugs


Jokes aside, I think its clear that the setting, company, substances, place, mindset, et all have a lot to do with different peoples experiences with dance music, even when they more or less have similar music tastes.

I was sober as a daisy in Miami @ Pawnshop for Radio Slave and I danced nearly the whole time. And I rarely just dance!


Posted by julien2 on Apr-25-2008 18:40:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT It's called "baiting" and boy did you ever bite - which is part of what makes all this so entertaining for me.



Oh yeah, the good old "I was just kidding technique". Is that #3 in the guide ?

You fail

So you are saying RS rose to fame and beat his stuff to death in a year, just like deadmau5 ? please, get your act straight. he's been in the industry for way longer.


Posted by Clovis on Apr-25-2008 18:43:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Those days are pretty far behind me at this point.

Just don't enjoy doing them so much anymore.



I think you would again in the right context.


Sometimes, just being off your tits by yourself in the middle of a dark dancefloor with a bunch of people and a good DJ is the best feeling in the world, imo.

Not always, but sometimes.


Posted by julien2 on Apr-25-2008 18:47:

To put an end to this argument. It is not a question of taste.

Repetition, looping, teasing, endless intros, have been part of the electronic music world for a long, long time.

What deadmau5 does is not the same thing. It's a formula for a melody, and I posted an example couple of pages ago. Same freaking tune, same freaking arpeggios, same freaking 8th note.

RS uses a formula for a general mood and flow, for general rythm. Some tracks I hate, some tracks are classics to me.

But it is ridiculous to argue that it's only a question of subjectivity, especially when you first called for objective arguments.

And please, Rob, get your shit straight, and stop following stupid "I cant admit I was wrong" internet guides


Posted by Az on Apr-25-2008 18:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis


Not sometimes, but always.

fixed


Posted by RJT on Apr-25-2008 18:47:

quote:
Originally posted by julien2
Oh yeah, the good old "I was just kidding technique". Is that #3 in the guide ?

You fail

So you are saying RS rose to fame and beat his stuff to death in a year, just like deadmau5 ? please, get your act straight. he's been in the industry for way longer.


You have got to be fucking kidding me.

You really thought I was seriously asking if people could provide an objective reason as to why Radio Slave is better than Deadmau5?



And the only reason you're saying anything about RS being in the industry for so long is because Clovis just posted the same thing - and his "rise to fame" was relatively quick, and rooted in a distinct style, so the comparison is as apt as I can imagine it can be.

Keep trying though, love the effort.

PS: As long as we're talking about internet argument techniques, I feel obligated to tell you that just using the words "you fail" doesn't actually mean the person you quoted failed. It means you don't have anything better to say.

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
I think you would again in the right context.


Sometimes, just being off your tits by yourself in the middle of a dark dancefloor with a bunch of people and a good DJ is the best feeling in the world, imo.

Not always, but sometimes.


I really don't like to do drugs anymore.

Sure, maybe in the right context I could have a good time - but more often than not I'd rather be at home in bed rather than watching the sunrise.


Posted by RJT on Apr-25-2008 18:48:

quote:
Originally posted by julien2
To put an end to this argument. It is not a question of taste.

Repetition, looping, teasing, endless intros, have been part of the electronic music world for a long, long time.

What deadmau5 does is not the same thing. It's a formula for a melody.

RS uses a formula for a general mood and flow.

And please, Rob, get your shit straight, and stop following stupid "I cant admit I was wrong" internet guides


You can disregard my above post. You're a fucking idiot and I'm not even going to bother giving you the time of day anymore.

Take some of your own advice and fuck off.


Posted by Clovis on Apr-25-2008 18:49:

I'm sure I'll grow out of the insane partying too, but I can appreciate both.


Posted by bas on Apr-25-2008 18:49:

Which time at Pawn Shop are you talking about? You weren't sober either time

Anyway, just to clear some things up. Radio Slave hasn't always been just Matt Edwards, for a while it was him and Serge Santiago. Matt as a DJ has been around for ages, same with Serge, but as the production team he and Serge started the Radio Slave moniker maybe four years ago?

So to say something like he "sucked a lot of cock to get where is" just shows you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. And now that you've let that nice little piece of information about yourself slide, Steve, your opinion is completely null and void. Quite frankly, no one cares who the fuck you saw in Miami...did you happen to attend anything at Nikki Beach? My guess would be yes, enjoy the rest of your musical journey poppet.


Posted by Az on Apr-25-2008 18:50:

i think it was fairly obvious rob wasn't being entirely serious from the outset


Posted by stev�sto on Apr-25-2008 18:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
The fact that you thought he was boring is your opinion, and a singular one, since the majority of the people there enjoyed themselves a lot. He managed to refill a thinning crowd at 5am by dropping a new tune him & his gf have made which is really good and unlike most of his other stuff.
As for the facts, I just posted them. He's been in it for years and is respected by his peers, and most folks in the industry, no dick sucking has gone down whatsoever. If anything he has folks trying to get on his jock all the time hoping for something in return. That is not my opinion, that is fact, I.E. what is actually going on IN THE WORLD, and not what is going on in the made up story of Radio Slave's success in your head.


"sucking cock" ranges from moving speakers around/hanging up plastic, to kissing ass and bribery. or did you actually think of the literal sense? your facts suck. you dont know what's really going on with these people, you dont know them personally, maybe you exchanged a few words but that is nothing to knowing a true story. i could care less about this dude! he's just like dubfire, they sound real similiar and both have music that is as uncreative as their names. i dont care about him so much, but you do!


Posted by bas on Apr-25-2008 18:53:

quote:
Originally posted by stev�sto
"sucking cock" ranges from moving speakers around/hanging up plastic, to kissing ass and bribery. or did you actually think of the literal sense? your facts suck. you dont know what's really going on with these people, you dont know them personally, maybe you exchanged a few words but that is nothing to knowing a true story. i could care less about this dude! he's just like dubfire, they sound real similiar and both have music that is as uncreative as their names. i dont care about him so much, but you do!

You just have no clue It's cute though, kind of endearing.


Posted by Az on Apr-25-2008 18:53:

is stevesto best buds with bobba lou?


Posted by julien2 on Apr-25-2008 18:53:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
You have got to be fucking kidding me.


You really thought I was seriously asking if people could provide an objective reason as to why Radio Slave is better than Deadmau5?


Yeah, it's quite easy to say that now, when the original post stated that clearly. Thank god for the internet.

quote:
And the only reason you're saying anything about RS being in the industry for so long is because Clovis just posted the same thing - and his "rise to fame" was relatively quick, and rooted in a distinct style, so the comparison is as apt as I can imagine it can be.


Yeah, obviously I need clovis to tell me that he has been in the industry for a long time....


Posted by RJT on Apr-25-2008 18:54:

quote:
Originally posted by julien2
Yeah, it's quite easy to say that now, when the original post stated that clearly. Thank god for the internet.


Everyone else seemed to get it. Oh well, the world needs dim bulbs too.

quote:
Originally posted by julien2
Yeah, obviously I need clovis to tell me that he has been in the industry for a long time....


I know you do. All of us know.


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