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Iran isn't an Arabic country.

The Arab state was really an ambitious plan that never bore fruit b/c of power struggles between regional leaders. The only 2 countries where the Arab state was somewhat implemented was Syria and Egypt, but that fell apart within a few years time. Sadat's assasination happened wayyyy later in the early 80s.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 what's with persian arrogance?

this coming from an american who are renowned for their arrogance over here in Australia?

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Originally posted by CHRles Iran isn't an Arabic country. The Arab state was really an ambitious plan that never bore fruit b/c of power struggles between regional leaders. The only 2 countries where the Arab state was somewhat implemented was Syria and Egypt, but that fell apart within a few years time. Sadat's assasination happened wayyyy later in the early 80s.

AND???? Your fcking point?

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Originally posted by Krypton AND???? Your fcking point?

You're also blind? LOL. I was responding to W Ashley.
I don't really see any point in usually responding to a troll like you who knows nothing but claims to know something.

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Originally posted by CHRles You're also blind? LOL. I was responding to W Ashley. I don't really see any point in usually responding to a troll like you who knows nothing but claims to know something.

I know you like to pussy out when your arguments get slammed down. But let's go back to page 4...http://tranceaddict.com/forums/show...d=&pagenumber=4

This is how you argue...

Premise
Premise
?

NO CONCLUSION!!! Point, thesis, opinion. You just ramble on about the stupidest irrelevant BULLSHIT.

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Originally posted by Lemonad this coming from an american who are renowned for their arrogance over here in Australia?

is that a question, or do you not know how punctuate correctly?

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Originally posted by Lemonad this coming from an american who are renowned for their arrogance over here in Australia?

except of course jerZ07002 wasn't displaying any arrogance, so what's your point?

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Originally posted by CHRles I'm sure there's a Mons Venus and an Ybor City in every city in Iran. And cosmopolitan? You mean like the ethnic mix of people in Tampa? A black and a growing Hispanic population? A White population from all parts of the US and Europe? Oh yeah, the resemblance to Tampa is just astounding. Women in Tampa = very hot. Women in Iran = who knows? Most of them aren't allowed to dress up like their Tampa counterparts. Tampa Radio includes 2 Hip Hop stations, Bubba The Love Sponge is back on the radio (and thx to him 102.5 finally sounds good), a Modern Rock station, a hard Rock station, one of the country's most famous Top 40 stations, and a cool Public radio station. Iran radio = crap, and is entirely controlled by the state. Definitely not diverse like the radio dial in Dubai, Beirut, and especially Istanbul. EDM Club scene in Iran? Non existent. Definitely not like that of Tel Aviv, Sharam Al Sheikh, Dubai, or Istanbul. American supermarkets vs. Iranian supermarkets? America wins hands down. Car choices in America vs. Iran? America wins hands down. Iran is anti-cosmopolitan. Oh yeah, I'm just so filled with envy right now You know here in Nashville there's a big Kurdish population. Their views of Iran are very different from yours, and most of them could care less about Fox News.

wow..... you are so utterly brainwashed!! with your type of mentality its no wonder people like you are not liked in the rest of the world! does anyone really give a fuck about consumerism, cars and the rest of these idiotic materialistic values these days when the dollar is clearly going down the drains?? its clear to me that your in favor of the palestinian holocaust, while america becomes the slave of the israel war mongerers they are the new nazi warlords these days and it disgusts me to see idiots like you who support a bunch of terrorists who want to bring nothing but fear and chaos to this world.

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Originally posted by Q5echo thank you pkcRAISTLIN for reminding all of us, again, that the premise of this thread is pointless. ISRAEL DOESN'T HAVE TO SUBMIT TO ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT SIGNATORIES TO THE NUCLEAR NON-PROLIFERATION TREATY. Israel in '68 had the smarts and forsight not to enter into it knowing full well what the future and her enemies had in store for her. Iran, on the other hand....they're playing dangerous game. ...and Krypton, youre a lousy American

lets all pray and applause israel! they are truly the chosen one, god's gift to this lovely "peaceful" earth !! ....

America's been gettin raped by these criminals, fuck the israel government!! im sick of these people's twisted ideologies that think somehow Israel is the savior fuckin zionist pigs is what you are! why dont you just admit that your racist !!?

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Originally posted by SiLveR_NrGy_985 lets all pray and applause israel! they are truly the chosen one, god's gift to this lovely "peaceful" earth !! .... America's been gettin raped by these criminals, fuck the israel government!! im sick of these people's twisted ideologies that think somehow Israel is the savior fuckin zionist pigs is what you are! why dont you just admit that your racist !!?

Your talking to someone who followed Bush and possibly voted for him... it's a wonder he has changed directions in liking Obama but your going to get a very biased reply from him no matter what.

In short, your talking to someone that if told to jump, he will reply "how high".

I'm actually glad Israel is friends with America, cause Israel won't go down without taking America down with it.

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Originally posted by Lemonad Your talking to someone who followed Bush and possibly voted for him... it's a wonder he has changed directions in liking Obama but your going to get a very biased reply from him no matter what. In short, your talking to someone that if told to jump, he will reply "how high". I'm actually glad Israel is friends with America, cause Israel won't go down without taking America down with it.

and despite Q5's obvious allegiances, i certainly learn far far more from him than from either of you. he is also far more articulate than either of you (if an average speller )

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Originally posted by SiLveR_NrGy_985 lets all pray and applause israel! they are truly the chosen one, god's gift to this lovely "peaceful" earth !! .... America's been gettin raped by these criminals, fuck the israel government!! im sick of these people's twisted ideologies that think somehow Israel is the savior fuckin zionist pigs is what you are! why dont you just admit that your racist !!?

/sand-in-vagina monologue

poor baby.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN and despite Q5's obvious allegiances, i certainly learn far far more from him than from either of you. he is also far more articulate than either of you (if an average speller )

Well i guess your just as idiotic.

As far as expressing your input, you have certain perceptions of people like us who i doubt you have seen many post from anyways.

Go back to your hole.

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Originally posted by Lemonad Your talking to someone who followed Bush and possibly voted for him...

yes. i am a 30 percenter. i'd vote for him again in a heartbeat.

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it's a wonder he has changed directions in liking Obama

not sure how you came up with that. i would chew on pkcRAISTLIN's three-day-old Battlestar Gallactica Underoo's before i voted for Obama.

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but your going to get a very biased reply from him no matter what.

yes. you're probably right. it's called an opinion.

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In short, your talking to someone that if told to jump, he will reply "how high".

i'm ex-military so i do have some experience with that.

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Originally posted by Lemonad As far as expressing your input, you have certain perceptions of people like us who i doubt you have seen many post from anyways.

this is the result of john howard's funding cuts into education.

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Originally posted by Lemonad As far as expressing your input, you have certain perceptions of people like us who i doubt you have seen many post from anyways. Go back to your hole.

oh like you thinking i was an Obama supporter?

go back to school.

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Originally posted by Q5echo oh like you thinking i was an Obama supporter? go back to school.

In that case, that explains your views then.

Oh and i don't think they are teaching in school about how to delve into the minds of one sighted people... just yet.

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Originally posted by Lemonad In that case, that explains your views then.

this is too easy, man. you're no fun.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN and despite Q5's obvious allegiances, i certainly learn far far more from him than from either of you. he is also far more articulate than either of you (if an average speller )

Hell has just frozen..

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Originally posted by SiLveR_NrGy_985 does anyone really give a fuck about consumerism, cars and the rest of these idiotic materialistic values these days

yes, consumerism is what drives every economy, whether directly or indirectly. will you people please study economics before you post unintelligent comments about the economy.

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Originally posted by SiLveR_NrGy_985 when the dollar is clearly going down the drains??

clearly???? the dollar has stabalized in the past month against the Euro. the only reason the dollar lost so much ground was the fast decline in US interest rates. since the fed isn't concerned with growth as much as inflation at this point, you will see the dollar rise more in the future. when the euro bank comes around to lowering its benchmark you will see further advances from the dollar. furthermore, the dollar/GBP exchange is nearly the same as it was a year-and-a-half ago. when you talk about dollar going to shit, know your shit first so you don't sound unintelligent.

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Originally posted by SiLveR_NrGy_985 wow..... you are so utterly brainwashed!! with your type of mentality its no wonder people like you are not liked in the rest of the world! does anyone really give a fuck about consumerism, cars and the rest of these idiotic materialistic values these days when the dollar is clearly going down the drains?? its clear to me that your in favor of the palestinian holocaust, while america becomes the slave of the israel war mongerers they are the new nazi warlords these days and it disgusts me to see idiots like you who support a bunch of terrorists who want to bring nothing but fear and chaos to this world.

Hey, let's all chant together your slogan - Hezbollah! Hezbollah! Oh allah, we love the Hezbollah!
Hamas! Hamas! Hamas! In Hamas We Trust!
Down with USA! Down with zionsim! Down with the West! Let's kill all those infidels!

Nope, no brainwashing going on at all with those chants in the background. Gotta love those Hezbollah and Hamas supporters - they have so much passion and positive energy

Those 2 groups have done so much good for humanity. The high tech world, the sciences, noble peace prize winners, entertainment. Oh wait a minute! No those are all things Jews have done. Whoops.

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Nope, no brainwashing going on at all with those chants in the background. Gotta love those Hezbollah and Hamas supporters - they have so much passion and positive energy Those 2 groups have done so much good for humanity. The high tech world, the sciences, noble peace prize winners, entertainment. Oh wait a minute! No those are all things Jews have done. Whoops.

Shhhh!! We don't mention those things! It's politically incorrect and it hurts arab pride

Actually I think this is one of the main reasons Israel is hated so much. Obviously their behavior causes much of the resentment...with their continued expansions into Palestinian land, bulldozing houses, etc. That behavior can't be excused and obviously it pisses people off. But I think the much larger issue that motivates hatred against Israel is just how much the Jews have achieved on their little piece of desert in less than 60 years. They have done the impossible and created a thriving modern metropolis with virtually no natural resources to help them. They have modern technology, entertainment, tourism, etc. They trade and do business with the entire planet..and are completely connected to the web. And what do you see when you look at every arab nation surrounding them??...nations that have existed for 10X as long? You see dirt roads, cheap shacks, and people still using GOATS as currency..

No wonder the muslims hate Israel. It's farking embarassing.

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Originally posted by CHRles Hey, let's all chant together your slogan - Hezbollah! Hezbollah! Oh allah, we love the Hezbollah! Hamas! Hamas! Hamas! In Hamas We Trust! Down with USA! Down with zionsim! Down with the West! Let's kill all those infidels! Nope, no brainwashing going on at all with those chants in the background. Gotta love those Hezbollah and Hamas supporters - they have so much passion and positive energy Those 2 groups have done so much good for humanity. The high tech world, the sciences, noble peace prize winners, entertainment. Oh wait a minute! No those are all things Jews have done. Whoops.

Your problem is, you have no clue why so many people hate Israel and America. What's disgusting is you don't even care...Imagine if your house was bombed with your family inside...How about the over 1 million Iraqi refugees? Nope, you could care less...

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Originally posted by Krypton Your problem is, you have no clue why so many people hate Israel and America. What's disgusting is you don't even care...Imagine if your house was bombed with your family inside...How about the over 1 million Iraqi refugees? Nope, you could care less...

Actually it's the other way around - you know why so many people hate Hamas and Hezbollah yet you don't really care

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Originally posted by CHRles Actually it's the other way around - you know why so many people hate Hamas and Hezbollah yet you don't really care

Let me school you...

Logical Fallacy

A fallacy is a component of an argument which, being demonstrably flawed in its logic or form, renders the argument invalid in whole.

Illicit Conversion Fallacy

An illicit conversion is the invalid inversion of a A- or O-type proposition. It can also be defined as an argument which entails the arbitrary assignment of a specific trait of a set to one of its subsets.

Structure
The basic forms of the illicit conversion are as follows:

All A are B.
Therefore, all B are A.

Example
All dolphins are mammals.
Therefore, all mammals are dolphins.

OR OR OR

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Originally posted by CHRles Actually it's the other way around - you know why so many people hate Hamas and Hezbollah yet you don't really care

I'de have to say your argument is this retarded...



Idiot...

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