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Who gives a flying fuck which hand you use, how hard you shake and where the fuck you're looking? It's an arbitrary gesture. I tend to offer my left hand because I'm left handed, and I've never been told that it's wrong. If you judge someone or get offended by a handshake you're stuck-up, as far as I'm concerned.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel Lots of them. Where are you at/from?

Lithuania

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Who gives a flying fuck which hand you use, how hard you shake and where the fuck you're looking? It's an arbitrary gesture. I tend to offer my left hand because I'm left handed, and I've never been told that it's wrong. If you judge someone or get offended by a handshake you're stuck-up, as far as I'm concerned.

It really doesn't matter which hand to most of the world, but in general, is naturally going to be the right hand.

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Originally posted by bananas Lithuania

Ahh yeah. We have a bunch of similarities in culture, and quite possibly foods also.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel It really doesn't matter which hand to most of the world, but in general, is naturally going to be the right hand. Ahh yeah. We have a bunch of similarities in culture, and quite possibly foods also.

Well yeah, some of them we'd like to shake off, some of them are cool

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel It really doesn't matter which hand to most of the world, but in general, is naturally going to be the right hand.

I have had confusion with a right-handed person when we've offered different hands, but it didn't mean anything. It's just the majority trying to enforce itself on the minority and disguising itself with crap about "convention".

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Originally posted by bananas Well yeah, some of them we'd like to shake off, some of them are cool

haha seeing that I am unfamiliar with your customs and culture, I couldn't really comment on that.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I have had confusion with a right-handed person when we've offered different hands, but it didn't mean anything. It's just the majority trying to enforce itself on the minority and disguising itself with crap about "convention".

Your reasoning is very short-sighted. The reason that we offer our right hand, is because the majority is right handed, and you then assume the other person is too. How does that translate into oppression or forcible compliance?

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Originally posted by Jake Benson THINK ABOUT IT! ...I'm off to the gym now.

I bet you will have to make at least one right-handed turn to get there! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

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Originally posted by Jake Benson So you are supporting the right hand shake custom because it's proper in certain areas of the country even though are irrelevant in other parts? Or because it signifies a gesture that has long since dissipated since the time where one would be "holding a weapon"? If the latter is true, then to me it's like you're saying, "I listen to songs that are only between 3 and 4 minutes in length, because when the first records came out they were spinning at 78 RPM and therefore couldn't fit more than 4 minutes on one side." Maintaining a custom isn't necessary if it was historically important for survival but no longer is today.

you really are ignorant aren't you?

i was telling you why we shake hands with our right, and it hasn't long since dissipated since we still use it today

even beat blog reiterated what i wrote

it's a gesture and sign of respect for your fellow human being

the argument about the 78rpm... i'm not even going to touch that one, that's just a poor example

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Originally posted by sufee_b It is rude. Scientists agree that 99.3% of the male population whacks off with their left hand

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel Your reasoning is very short-sighted. The reason that we offer our right hand, is because the majority is right handed, and you then assume the other person is too. How does that translate into oppression or forcible compliance?

I know that. The oppression comes in with this bullshit idea of it being "convention" to shake with your right and it being "bad manners" not to. In the Victorian times kids weren't allowed to write with their left hand in school because it was allegedly the Devil's hand. It's the same thing here- dressing up something arbitrary as though it means something in order to enforce compliance.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I know that. The oppression comes in with this bullshit idea of it being "convention" to shake with your right and it being "bad manners" not to. In the Victorian times kids weren't allowed to write with their left hand in school because it was allegedly the Devil's hand. It's the same thing here- dressing up something arbitrary as though it means something in order to enforce compliance.

I am aware of that, and it didn't end in the Victorian era. My grandfather was born in 1925 and was left handed. In school he was smack with a ruler and all that to conform. They had the thought that left handed people were of the devil. This is no longer the case though, so your argument is a crock of shit. This is modern times, and it is conventional to use your right, but if for some reason your right hand is not available when someone outstretches their right hand, you use your left and complete the shake. This is common and acceptable. Where is there oppression or forcible conformity in that!? Also, the reasoning for using the same hand has to do with interlocking and fit. Just like a puzzle, 2 right hands fit together nicely, unlike a right and a left. That is the "convention" in using the right. It just fits.

Another fun fact: The word Sinister came from the latin word Sinestre meaning left. (Lefty here)

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel I am aware of that, and it didn't end in the Victorian era. My grandfather was born in 1925 and was left handed. In school he was smack with a ruler and all that to conform. They had the thought that left handed people were of the devil. This is no longer the case though, so your argument is a crock of shit. This is modern times, and it is conventional to use your right, but if for some reason your right hand is not available when someone outstretches their right hand, you use your left and complete the shake. This is common and acceptable. Where is there oppression or forcible conformity in that!? Also, the reasoning for using the same hand has to do with interlocking and fit. Just like a puzzle, 2 right hands fit together nicely, unlike a right and a left. That is the "convention" in using the right. It just fits.

Are you even reading my posts properly? It's oppression because people have created a social stigma out of it with esoteric reasons to back up that stigma. As I've said. The discourse of social relations has created the suppose "truth" system that marks out the left-handed as abnormal, as part of a system of power. Check out some of the quotes in this thread:

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Originally posted by Tony Morello tis true, it's a major form of disrespect if you offer your left hand which would be why some people refuse to shake your hand when you offer your left, you's basically saying, i don't respect you enough so here, shake my shit hand it also stems from early times when you would offer your open hand as a form of peace and showing you aren't holding a weapon which would be why, even when i have something in my right hand, i transfer it to my left so i'm able to offer my right hand when the hand shake situation arises, it's about showing respect to another person

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Originally posted by Capitalizt I've never seen or even heard of anyone shaking with the left...That's just farking weird.

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Originally posted by Beat Blog Personally, I hate it when people shake with their left hand, I see it as rude, like giving a curt nod or chin tilt instead of a verbal greeting. FYI, limp wristed dead fish handshake from a male = instant loss of respect for the guy I've just met, and same goes for left handed. I'm not sure why I feel that way.

^ With no less than three people directly agreeing with this post.

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Originally posted by sweds00 left handshake = gay

In summary, by choosing to shake hands with my left, the hand I naturally prefer, I am: disrespectful, weird, rude, not to be respected and gay.

So don't fucking tell me all of the above just stems from it "fitting" to use your right hand. I have to use my unpreferred hand 90% of the time when shaking hands, and when I make a right handed person shake my left I'm apparently being a disrepectful, rude cock. Fuck that. All these reasons why the right hand is used come down to the fact that most people historically have always used their right and majorities love to oppress minorities by dressing their preferences as custom, tradition and the "done thing".

You can't get away with racism, sexism or homophobia these days but nobody gives a shit about beating on the lefties. Games that don't enable left-handed controls, library computers that don't let you switch the mouse to your left, shitty arbitrary conventions about using a particular hand to perform an arbitrary social gesture... fuck all that.

And don't get me wrong- I'm not accusing you personally of any of this. I didn't even know that people cared until I read this thread, but doing so has pissed me off. This is a rant against all the people who actually think it matters which hand you use in a handshake, the myopic, submissive morons of the world.

So according to your logic, 4 people represent the majority. I have worked in the professional world for a few years now, and they never care really. I have seen people shake with the left and there were never any problems or views of disgust. I don't see the problem, even if there are a small few that do.

Im more of an arm bash kinda guy.

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Originally posted by L.E.N. Im more of an arm bash kinda guy.

FAG!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel So according to your logic, 4 people represent the majority. I have worked in the professional world for a few years now, and they never care really. I have seen people shake with the left and there were never any problems or views of disgust. I don't see the problem, even if there are a small few that do.

It only takes one person to represent the majority, and in this case it's seven, not four. However, the existence of this thread is proof it's a more widespread issue than one, four or seven people.

Man, I thought this thread was about shaking your dick off after you pee.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J It only takes one person to represent the majority, and in this case it's seven, not four. However, the existence of this thread is proof it's a more widespread issue than one, four or seven people.

I disagree. Anyone that is trying to show some sort of correlation through either journalism or science will never use 1 to represent the majority, ever.

The mere existence of this thread doesn't prove a more widespread issue, just that one person was aggravated by it and a small percentage of them replied agreeing. Not that more don't have the same view, but the mere existence of something is never basis to say any sort of wide assumption that something is a problem.

And the fact that people are bothered by this, shows that too many people are consumed with non-conformity while conforming to non-conformity. If you don't like it, fine, but get over yourself. It is a fucking handshake for shit sakes. It isn't making life hard.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel I disagree. Anyone that is trying to show some sort of correlation through either journalism or science will never use 1 to represent the majority, ever.

I'm not trying to statistically prove anything, nor am I claiming that one person is statistical proof of anything, but one person can represent the views of the majority in a literal way. It depends entirely on the sample they are included in.

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The mere existence of this thread doesn't prove a more widespread issue, just that one person was aggravated by it and a small percentage of them replied agreeing. Not that more don't have the same view, but the mere existence of something is never basis to say any sort of wide assumption that something is a problem.

It does by default. If someone is complaining about something that must have happened in reality (handshakes being somewhat impossible on an Internet forum) that is evidence that something is more widespread than the replies in this thread. The fact that people are bringing up established reasons why something is the "done thing" is a bit more evidence as well.

You seem overly keen to knock down my point based on pedantry. Unless you think that the highlighted posts, the experiences of the opening poster and the cited explanations for right-handed handshakes are all entirely incidental then it's fairly obvious that this bullshit belief that it's somehow wrong to shake with your left hand exists in society today, and that a reasonable percentage of people still subscribe to it. What's more important than the seven people saying I'm somehow abnormal is the complete lack of people condemning those seven for saying so. You don't have to vocalise an oppressive discourse to be complicit with it. And fuck, it's not like you're in any hurry to condemn those people even now. You'd rather attack my protests at length.

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And the fact that people are bothered by this, shows that too many people are consumed with non-conformity while conforming to non-conformity.

I'd love to be able to conform to conformity, but nature designed me a conforming non-conformist by making me left handed.

I'm left handed but I shake hands with my right hand because I'm not a whinging fuck without anything better to do.

Go plant a tree you moaning little bitch.

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Originally posted by Teh Jim I'm left handed but I shake hands with my right hand because I'm not a whinging fuck without anything better to do.

Yeah, you're a spineless **** who does what he's told. Well played.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel I didn't read most of this thread as it is mostly a bunch of boring shit, but all you fucks that think hand shaking is stupid or whatever, need to get the fuck out of the US. It is a form of respect. All my Russian, French, and German friends I know, all shake out of RESPECT. Not because of some social norm that you are attributing it to. ugh

But "shaking out of respect" IS that social norm you are trying to disassociate this practice from. Yes it's respectful and I actually shake with my right more than my left only because my body has been used to those interactions. But getting chastised for using my left hand is just outright annoying and pathetic.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Who gives a flying fuck which hand you use, how hard you shake and where the fuck you're looking? It's an arbitrary gesture. I tend to offer my left hand because I'm left handed, and I've never been told that it's wrong. If you judge someone or get offended by a handshake you're stuck-up, as far as I'm concerned.

Well said. Ditto and I love you!

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Originally posted by Tony Morello you really are ignorant aren't you?

No but you are for misinterpreting what I said.

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i was telling you why we shake hands with our right, and it hasn't long since dissipated since we still use it today

No miss retard. I was saying that the REASON for shaking with the right for the original reason (as a sign that you are not holding a weapon) has long since dissipated. I'm talking about the god damn weapons. Jesus what's up with your tampons they're a bit wet you need to change them duders.

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it's a gesture and sign of respect for your fellow human being

Yeah and also disrespect for people who shake with their left.

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the argument about the 78rpm... i'm not even going to touch that one, that's just a poor example

It's a perfect analogy and you're a perfect idiot. I win.

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