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Posted by English Rachel on May-14-2008 18:31:

Re: Re: Re: Re: What do you like/dislike about Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by smuncky
what do you mean by our own culture? as in canadian?


Nope, Torontonian

I thought that then talking about the CITY of London in my post AND Emery's post about the city culture AND the fact that the thread is about TORONTO would make that clear, Alex


Posted by smuncky on May-14-2008 18:34:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What do you like/dislike about Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by English Rachel
Nope, Torontonian

I thought that then talking about the CITY of London in my post AND Emery's post about the city culture AND the fact that the thread is about TORONTO would make that clear, Alex


hehe, opps.

well we do have a good list of theatres, opera, museums, etc. Some of our cultural centers and events are on the same level as any in the world like TIFF.


Posted by SasH21 on May-14-2008 18:38:

I have only moved to Toronto a year and a half ago from Kentucky, so I am still learning many things, but so far this is what I like:

- Multiculturalism and individualism
- TTC (even though people complain all the time, but compared to Ukraine and Kentucky, it's great)
- Career opportunities
- Many well-read, educated, intelligent and open-minded people (compared to the States especially)
- Amazing night life
- Lots of very good restaurants and good food
- Shopping, especially downtown like Eaton Centre and BCE place
- Hot dogs
- High park, since I live next to it
- Queen and College West
- Kengsington Market
- People are way more health concious than in the States
- Smoking pot is no big deal
- Patios

Things I don't like:
- There is really not much architecture
- Lots of homeless people downtown and weirdos, especially on queen streetcar
- Don't see too many people who dress up, it's mostly very casual, which is ok, but I expected that in a big city as Toronto people would dress better
- Materialistic/pretentious people
- Too many ginos
- Depressed people on the subway


Posted by English Rachel on May-14-2008 18:49:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What do you like/dislike about Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by smuncky
hehe, opps.

well we do have a good list of theatres, opera, museums, etc. Some of our cultural centers and events are on the same level as any in the world like TIFF.


Absolutely I agree with you but I meant, as Emery did (I think) that we don't have a 'culture' of our own which would be a blend of all the cultures that live here.


Posted by Yohan on May-14-2008 18:49:

quote:
Originally posted by SasH21

Things I don't like:
- Don't see too many people who dress up, it's mostly very casual, which is ok, but I expected that in a big city as Toronto people would dress better

I don't see this as a problem at all. I hope this is a reflection of generally laidback attitude many Canadians have.


Posted by Yohan on May-14-2008 18:51:

Re: Re: Re: What do you like/dislike about Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller
?

I thought the phrase was pretty damn funny. been a while since i've heard someone say yuppie


Posted by SasH21 on May-14-2008 18:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Yohan
I don't see this as a problem at all. I hope this is a reflection of generally laidback attitude many Canadians have.


Well, that's great to be laid-back, which I am myself. To each their own, right. But, growing up in Ukraine, we were always taught to dress up, wear more dresses, skirts, heels, etc...I think most of the Europe is like that.

Even when my friend from New York came here, she was surprised to see that people dress way too casually.


Posted by kotsy on May-14-2008 18:57:

Re: What do you like/dislike about Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller
Cons:
- Undeveloped waterfront


Put this under pro for me. That undeveloped waterfront is the reason Guv is still open.


Posted by teufel-man on May-14-2008 19:04:

quote:
Originally posted by SasH21

- Depressed people on the subway


thats how your supposed to act on the subway! its not cool to be excited on the subway! lol


Posted by Capo di tutti on May-14-2008 19:12:

Re: Re: What do you like/dislike about Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by kotsy
Put this under pro for me. That undeveloped waterfront is the reason Guv is still open.


Pros:
Tons of oppurtunites in all aspects of life
Variety
Safe and Clean for a city
Especially great place to be and time if your into the edm scene

Cons:
Panhandlers
Protesters in tourist areas
Scarborough kids loitering downtown on weekends (day and night)


Posted by infinity HiGH on May-14-2008 19:28:

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
I love my neighbourhood. I love the food diversity. I love the connectedness of people.


I hate my neighbourhood. I too love the food diversity of this city. It's one of the major reasons why I like living here. And I think people here are really disconnected, they seem like such social retards in this city; afraid to even make eye contact with a total stranger.

I hate the "fun police" as Graham mentioned. It's like everyone wants cottage country in the 3rd or 4th biggest city in North America (I swear it's only a matter of time before there's a curfew imposed on the Gardiner).

Our waterfront is downright pathetic. I'd love it if we had a long strip of bars, lounges, cafes and restaurants along the lake where everyone can go and socialize. Something like College St, but with no traffic obviously. It would be a great tourist spot too.

The TTC is incredibly inefficient. Although not as bad as some make it out to be, it's definitely worse than a lot of other transit systems I've used. There should definitely be more dedicated street car lanes. I can't imagine what reasoning was used when designing the street car track system ("OH! Let's have the street cars and vehicles on the roads share 1 lane!! That's so unique!" )

Too many Jamaicans.


Posted by Knox on May-14-2008 19:29:

quote:
Originally posted by SasH21
- Don't see too many people who dress up, it's mostly very casual, which is ok, but I expected that in a big city as Toronto people would dress better
- Materialistic/pretentious people



this is kinda contradicting......

i like that the people in our city don't all dress up perfect and pretty. individuality is key.


Posted by SasH21 on May-14-2008 19:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Knox
this is kinda contradicting......

i like that the people in our city don't all dress up perfect and pretty. individuality is key.


You don't need to have lots of $ or be shallow to dress pretty


Posted by Knox on May-14-2008 19:33:

quote:
Originally posted by SasH21
You don't need to have lots of $ or be shallow to dress pretty


and you don't need to dress prettier to make the city a better place.


Posted by SasH21 on May-14-2008 19:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Knox
and you don't need to dress prettier to make the city a better place.


LOL Kris the question was the things YOU like/don't like about Toronto, not what makes it better... I am expressing my opinion, you disagree, which is fine either way..Like I said, to each their own.


Posted by electro funk on May-14-2008 19:40:

the winter here is not bad at all compare to a lot of canadian cities. try an ottawa winter....absolutely disgusting. it does get pretty damn hot in the summer though.


Posted by She_Fitz on May-14-2008 19:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Knox
and you don't need to dress prettier to make the city a better place.


I think the contradition is that you view pretentious people as a con but have critiques of people above and below the line.


Posted by dEsidEL on May-14-2008 19:57:

quote:
Originally posted by SasH21
Well, that's great to be laid-back, which I am myself. To each their own, right. But, growing up in Ukraine, we were always taught to dress up, wear more dresses, skirts, heels, etc...I think most of the Europe is like that.

Even when my friend from New York came here, she was surprised to see that people dress way too casually.




I think you're trying to say that you find people in this city don't seem to have a sense of style or fashion in their dress compared to other large urban centres you've been in (obviously this is a generalization, but you're basing this on your own observations.) Let me know whether I'm off base with this.




quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
Too many Jamaicans.



LOL


Posted by FunkyCrew on May-14-2008 20:00:

quote:
Originally posted by SasH21
LOL Kris the question was the things YOU like/don't like about Toronto, not what makes it better... I am expressing my opinion, you disagree, which is fine either way..Like I said, to each their own.


totally agree with Sash on the clothes factor
way too many bums who disgust me by their looks - its like, common, at least get out of those ugly track suit bottoms and brush your hair

every time I fly through Europe I can't stop starring at how nicely dressed everyone is, especially in airports - when I'm flying out of Pearson, it seems like people look even worse there then out on the street


Posted by SasH21 on May-14-2008 20:00:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL


I think you're trying to say that you find people in this city don't seem to have a sense of style or fashion in their dress compared to other large urban centres you've been in (obviously this is a generalization, but you're basing this on your own observations.) Let me know whether I'm off base with this.







LOL


Yes, that's what I meant...So, what did I come off as trying to say then?


Posted by Jayx1 on May-14-2008 20:02:

PRO:

-Toronto island in the summer
-Good Restaurants and pretty authentic multinational food
-relatively safe
-Danforth on a summer evening for a drink

CON:

-Bad transport system. Toronto needs more one way streets and to abolish the street car. More highways needed. Also needs better transit in the form of busses, subways and trains.

-Insecure people with attitude problems... never seen it worse than here and i dunno why. I think the snobbiness from insecure people and the resulting social retardation of toronto is the number one problem in Toronto to be honest.

-Parking. Both the rules and it's enforcement and how its a cash cow.

- Fun police, i dont need to say more


Posted by ChemEnhanced on May-14-2008 20:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
PRO:

-Toronto island in the summer
-Good Restaurants and pretty authentic multinational food
-relatively safe
-Danforth on a summer evening for a drink

CON:

-Bad transport system. Toronto needs more one way streets and to abolish the street car. More highways needed. Also needs better transit in the form of busses, subways and trains.

-Insecure people with attitude problems... never seen it worse than here and i dunno why

-Parking. Both the rules and it's enforcement and how its a cash cow.

- Fun police, i dont need to say more


much shorter list then I thought it would be


Posted by Yohan on May-14-2008 20:04:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
totally agree with Sash on the clothes factor
way too many bums who disgust me by their looks - its like, common, at least get out of those ugly track suit bottoms and brush your hair

uh oh... but I don't brush my hair...


Posted by FunkyCrew on May-14-2008 20:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Yohan
uh oh... but I don't brush my hair...


you have NO hair almost :P


Posted by Jayx1 on May-14-2008 20:06:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
much shorter list then I thought it would be


I actually like it here. Or what was here... to be honest in the 90s i had mostly good things to say about toronto. Although people have always been kinda crusty in Toronto

I just hate seeing the fast decline of the place i call my hometown.


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