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Originally posted by Ania_xox I totally disagree. Why should a manager have to get involved over other members of thr working team? It's a problem to the interior of the workplace - not the exterior (unless you guys meet face to face with clients). I always do everything I can do on my own before I call a manager. I can't ever imagine myself calling HR or one of my bosses to come tell someone they stink.

It's as much for protection as anything else. Say you approach a co-worker and tell them they stink. Now your co-worker takes offense to that and feels that you are discriminating against them because they carry different bathing practices than you do. And now they report you to HR for discrimination. FUCKING THING SUCKS!

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Originally posted by Ania_xox I totally disagree. Why should a manager have to get involved over other members of thr working team? It's a problem to the interior of the workplace - not the exterior (unless you guys meet face to face with clients). I always do everything I can do on my own before I call a manager. I can't ever imagine myself calling HR or one of my bosses to come tell someone they stink.

Looking at it from a conflict management perspective, I think it IS the manager/HR's responsibility to deal with such things.

Ohhhh my goood, youuu stiink! (Chinese accent)

lol one of the kids in my class shit his pants today then looked at me like i was gonna clean him. Smelly mother******s haha.

Strike a match next to him, see if he catches on fire.

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Originally posted by jennypie Looking at it from a conflict management perspective, I think it IS the manager/HR's responsibility to deal with such things.

It is.
Mostly because it's easier to just be up front about it, get it fixed quickly, rather than to try and separate Mr Stinky Pants from the choke hold of Mr Passive Cubicle Prole who has eventually pent up his anger for about... a month or two later and explodes in either a torrent of rage or if we're really lucky, gunfire.

This just in:

Do not use the word 'poop' when referencing his stink.

Unless you're talking about his breath.

I still can't wrap my head around calling Human Resources to tell someone they stink. Honestly. I need a more in-depth explanation or some sort of hypothetical situation here. Again, the problem in question has nothing to do with the business itself - and it's not like he is aggressively causing the problem. IMO, the work hierarchy only stands in professional aspects... hygiene is not one of them (unless you're talking about a field such as nursing, as The Pie mentioned earlier). Your boss has no more power when he/she tells this guy that he stinks than if YOU yourself told him so. I think calling a boss to talk about it to him is a cop-out. It bugs YOU, so YOU do something about it.

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Originally posted by Ania_xox I still can't wrap my head around calling Human Resources to tell someone they stink. Honestly. I need a more in-depth explanation or some sort of hypothetical situation here. Again, the problem in question has nothing to do with the business itself - and it's not like he is aggressively causing the problem. IMO, the work hierarchy only stands in professional aspects... hygiene is not one of them (unless you're talking about a field such as nursing, as The Pie mentioned earlier). Your boss has no more power when he/she tells this guy that he stinks than if YOU yourself told him so. I think calling a boss to talk about it to him is a cop-out. It bugs YOU, so YOU do something about it.

Yeah, I tend to agree. I couldn't imagine calling HR to say "Hi, this is PKC, could you have a word to gerald? He smells bad and I don't like it".

then again, your average american is likely to sue for less than that so i spose its better to err on the side of caution.

Just start stinking more than him by having offensive shit all over your desk like garlic and AGQ's mom's vagina.

Encourage other members of the office to stink too so that your boss will have no choice but to enforce a strict no-stink policy in the office.

Hokey plans that involve lots of bureaucracy and waste lots of time are always the best ways to deal with situations at work.

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Originally posted by Ania_xox I still can't wrap my head around calling Human Resources to tell someone they stink. Honestly. I need a more in-depth explanation or some sort of hypothetical situation here. Again, the problem in question has nothing to do with the business itself - and it's not like he is aggressively causing the problem. IMO, the work hierarchy only stands in professional aspects... hygiene is not one of them (unless you're talking about a field such as nursing, as The Pie mentioned earlier). Your boss has no more power when he/she tells this guy that he stinks than if YOU yourself told him so. I think calling a boss to talk about it to him is a cop-out. It bugs YOU, so YOU do something about it.

It's less about telling HR that someone stinks and more about telling HR that you are not comfortable in your work environment. Your employer is responsible for your work environment.

Besides, what authority do you have to tell a co-worker that they stink and that they should change their bathing habits? None. Your HR has the authority because they set the guidelines of the workplace.

What would be your next step if you approached a co-worker about this exact issue and they totally ignored any request or reasoning that you presented?

very sound reasoning.
I stand semi-corrected.

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Originally posted by Ygrene What would be your next step if you approached a co-worker about this exact issue and they totally ignored any request or reasoning that you presented?

that's when i'd pass it up the chain of command.

Well like I said before several times, this is a very small company. We don't have an HR department. It's just me, two co-workers, this intern and our boss.

I do consider personal hygiene to be a part of professionalism in the workplace though. I think I will bring this up with my boss when the chance arises.

uhhhh....YOU STINK!!!

Die you pesky fucking alts.

write the intern a note and place on desk.

Have you tried stinking more than he does?

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