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Posted by RapidFire on Jun-12-2008 03:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Ania_xox

What I find ridiculous in the UEFA cup is people who bandwagon with certain teams and assume that team's identity when speaking about the games:

i.e. A non-italian saying "oh man our defense kicked ass" about team Italy ... ask one of them to pronounce Juventus for a good laugh.

or a non-german waving the deutsch flag around like a moron assuming a foreign identity


i dont find that ridiculous at all. of course for countries that havent made the tournament, their people will support those that have. if Serbia had made Euro id cheer for them over any other team but since they didn't, I support France. infact ive been supporting france since I was 8 years old. to me they define what I love about the game and I've felt a connection to their team since I started watching them. i love their style of play, I love their attitude and I love their country period. but when they face my country (and they will in qualifers for the world cup) i will be 100% on Serbia's side.

its all in good fun.


Posted by MarkT on Jun-12-2008 03:56:

quote:
Originally posted by kitchTA
thank you man, +1

i dont know why people think im a complete idiot for making this thread, like i feel very strongly against the situation, and if you are really into soccer this kinda shit would piss you right off.


sure, it's annoying. especially in cases where it's clearly out of self-interest. but this isn't uncommon and Poland has "non-Polish" on their team, as do many other teams, right? I agree it's abused and the eligibility rules should be less lenient though.

If Poland won, and a non-Polish player was responsible for the winning goal(s), would you take much less joy in the victory or be apologetic for it? Would you feel "strongly against the situation"?


Posted by malek on Jun-12-2008 04:01:

quote:
Originally posted by MarkT
If Poland won, and a non-Polish player was responsible for the winning goal(s), would you take much less joy in the victory or be apologetic for it? Would you feel "strongly against the situation"?



if these polish whiners are of any representation of poland, who would be crazy enough to emigrate there


Posted by Ania_xox on Jun-12-2008 04:06:

quote:
Originally posted by RapidFire
i dont find that ridiculous at all. of course for countries that havent made the tournament, their people will support those that have. if Serbia had made Euro id cheer for them over any other team but since they didn't, I support France. infact ive been supporting france since I was 8 years old. to me they define what I love about the game and I've felt a connection to their team since I started watching them. i love their style of play, I love their attitude and I love their country period. but when they face my country (and they will in qualifers for the world cup) i will be 100% on Serbia's side.

its all in good fun.


I'm not back-peddling here, but I totally agree with you and your perspective here.
My comment was regarding a very specific demographic of people. I don't know - maybe it's only because I'm exposed to a lot of that here where I live. These people know exactly who they are and they put on a HUGE SHOW of flaunting the apparent superiority of "THEIR" TEAM for whatever reason - bashing others and just going totally overboard in this very childish manner.

Have love for the sport - have love for your team. I just very much dislike fakeness and people who choose to "become" more italian or more portuguese or whatever during FIFA or UEFA.


Posted by malek on Jun-12-2008 04:14:

ignoring them is part of growig up.


Posted by RapidFire on Jun-12-2008 04:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Ania_xox
I'm not back-peddling here, but I totally agree with you and your perspective here.
My comment was regarding a very specific demographic of people. I don't know - maybe it's only because I'm exposed to a lot of that here where I live. These people know exactly who they are and they put on a HUGE SHOW of flaunting the apparent superiority of "THEIR" TEAM for whatever reason - bashing others and just going totally overboard in this very childish manner.

Have love for the sport - have love for your team. I just very much dislike fakeness and people who choose to "become" more italian or more portuguese or whatever during FIFA or UEFA.


i got you. i agree those who take it over-board are absurd. and ive seen people out there who are absolutely clueless on the game and support a certain country for all the wrong reasons. I just dont take them seriously


Posted by Ania_xox on Jun-12-2008 04:18:

quote:
Originally posted by malek

/out



whatever happened to this promise?
I was looking forward to it.


Posted by malek on Jun-12-2008 04:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Ania_xox
whatever happened to this promise?
I was looking forward to it.


well, you'll have to endure a bit more


Posted by Adamo on Jun-12-2008 13:47:

alot of people really dont know what their talking about in this thread...


Posted by StereoPrincess on Jun-12-2008 14:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
I read somewhere that podolski wanted to be part of the Poland National team but he wasn't getting much attention over there so Germany scooped him up. Not sure of the accuracy of any of that but it's easier to stomach than seeing him as a 'traitor'.


they actually flat out told him "no, go away".


Posted by iant56 on Jun-12-2008 14:08:

Poaching players is the norm... whats the big deal?

Look at France...


Posted by Capo di tutti on Jun-12-2008 14:35:

quote:
Originally posted by iant56
Poaching players is the norm... whats the big deal?

Look at France...



Lloyd: I'm talkin' about a place where the beer flows like wine. Where beautiful women instinctively flock like the salmon of Capistrano. I'm talkin' about a little place called Aspen.

Harry: Oh, I dunno, Lloyd, the French are assholes.


Posted by zokissima on Jun-12-2008 14:54:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
you guys are absolutely sour for loosing and retarded, get over being stomped by the germans. Hopefully Austria kicks the shit out of Poland tomorow just because of the lame fans you guys are.

/out


You very obviously just don't get it.


Posted by dEsidEL on Jun-12-2008 14:58:




quote:

Thursday, June 12, 2008
Podolski laughs at Poland passport threat
Germany striker Lukas Podolski has ridiculed a threat by a Polish politician to withdraw his Polish passport by revealing he does not even have one.

The Bayern Munich forward was born in Poland, but moved to Germany as a two-year old and grew up near Cologne.

He scored twice as Germany beat Poland 2-0 on Sunday, prompting Polish politician Miroslav Orzechowski to threaten to take away his passport.

'The funny thing is, I don't even have a Polish passport,' said Podolski in the Kolner Express newspaper.

'The Polish Football Association never showed an interest in me.

'Only when I played for the Under-21s and was in the public eye did they start to make moves.'

Podolski refused to celebrate his two goals against the country of his birth and was seen consoling Polish family members in the stands after Sunday's game.

Despite Orzechowski's comments, Podolski maintains he has and always will have a strong relationship with Poland, although he is fully committed to winning Euro 2008 with Germany, as he showed at the weekend.

'I made a decision for Germany and it was the right one,' he added. 'Still, I have two hearts beating inside me.'


source:
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/s...=545785&cc=5901


Posted by kitchTA on Jun-12-2008 16:31:

quote:
Originally posted by loca
I'm talking about the fact that Canada is chock full of many generations of Polish people. I can guarantee you that in a few years, a good portion of our international team will have ex-Polish nationals in it.
Are you going to go on a rampage about that then?

I wouldn't start crying if a Belgian national beat my team while he was playing for France or Holland. If that's where he has more opportunities, then all the best to him.

Either way, I doubt you'll understand the point I'm trying to make so I'll just leave it at that, and laugh while you rant on the bitterbus.


what does shooting them have anything to do with anything u fuckin slut...


Posted by kitchTA on Jun-12-2008 16:34:

fuck all the idiots in this thread. al the fucking sketched out E-tards


fuck podolski


Posted by smuncky on Jun-12-2008 16:44:

LOLOLOLOL!!


Posted by Rodrico on Jun-12-2008 17:09:

Polish people show us once again why Hitler wasn't such a bad idea.


Posted by Adamo on Jun-12-2008 17:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Rodrico
Polish people show us once again why Hitler wasn't such a bad idea.


I would honestly slit your throat if you said this around me.


Posted by StereoPrincess on Jun-12-2008 17:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Rodrico
Polish people show us once again why Hitler wasn't such a bad idea.


hee hee.

hitler didn't actually have anything against polish people. he has a thing against jews and wanted polish land. polish are are aryan as they come.


Posted by jsibilin on Jun-12-2008 17:54:

quote:
Originally posted by kitchTA
chinamon:
like ur ALWAYS on the ball to tell people they're opinions are shit, without taking the time to understand.

chinamon KNOWS ALL,, never question him ,, he is the answer to the world's problems.


Posted by dEsidEL on Jun-12-2008 18:02:

quote:
Originally posted by kitchTA
fuck all the idiots in this thread. al the fucking sketched out E-tards


fuck podolski




There are practically countless internationals around the world that play for a country other than the the country of their birth. this whole issue has been debated for years and FIFA are rightful in their current stance to leave it unchanged. There are far more players out there who have spent less time and have less of an affiliation than their adopted country for which they now play compared to Podolski. at least in Podolski's case, he might have been born in Poland and raised in a Polish family, but he's been living in Germany since he was age 2. Growing up there and playing in the German youth system and in Bundesliga, that country is all he's known for virtually his entire life.

Ultimately as long as a player holds citizenship of a specific country, it is that player's prerogative whether or not to play for them. Each player makes that decision based on his/her own circumstances at the time. I'm sure a lot of Canadians are upset at the fact that Owen Hargreaves and Jonathan de Guzman have each decided to play for England and Holland respectively, but their decisions are their own and we only have our own national football association, like Poland with theirs to blame.

As a Polish-Canadian, you're obviously upset by what's happened, but it's no reason to attack the current system of rule concerning international players.


Posted by TrickDaddE on Jun-12-2008 18:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Rodrico
Polish people show us once again why Hitler wasn't such a bad idea.


That's offsides bro... and not called for at all!!!


Posted by Rodrico on Jun-12-2008 18:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Adamo
I would honestly slit your throat if you said this around me.


Why wait until I say it verbally in front of you so that you can chop open my throat, isn't writing it just the same? Oh wait, that's right, you got no balls or brains to actually scare anyone.


Posted by Rodrico on Jun-12-2008 18:59:

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
hee hee.

hitler didn't actually have anything against polish people. he has a thing against jews and wanted polish land. polish are are aryan as they come.


Yeah, but then we wouldn't be having this thread about polish people who hate Polskies playin for Germany 'cause all you ******s would be German!


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