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IMO

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Originally posted by RJT I make music in my parents basement, therefore, underground music is still possible. /thread

You're STILL living at home?

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Originally posted by thechronic You're STILL living at home?

If by "still living at home" you mean, "moved into my own home 7 years ago", then yes - I am still living at home.

He must be in the wrong sarcasm pools

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Originally posted by iammesol He must be in the wrong sarcasm pools

Now that one was clever.

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Originally posted by stev�sto wrong thread. i didnt add to that thread because it went wayyy off topic. but fine here's an example of pop dubstep. however this is a pop dubstep i actually like, theres others that are similiar that are horrible and sound like the cheesy uk garage from way back: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ODyXPCmEAlI

I hate those indie remixes. That, the Black Ghosts remix, and the Depeche Mode remix... they're all shit. Luckily there's very little of it.

I'm not hearing any cheesy uk garage sounding tracks at all. The ones with 2step beats and cut up vocals are all sweet as fuck. See tracks by: TRG, Sully, Late, Forsaken, Whistla, Grievous Angel etc. No cheese to be found there.

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Originally posted by RJT If by "still living at home" you mean, "moved into my own home 7 years ago", then yes - I am still living at home.

I"M NOT TALKING ABOUT YOUR DORM!!!!

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Originally posted by thechronic I"M NOT TALKING ABOUT YOUR DORM!!!!

NEITHER IS HE!!!

LOUD NOISES!!!!

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Originally posted by Clovis NEITHER IS HE!!!

STFU Indiana Jones!

Stop yelling.

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Originally posted by TOR

thomas datt...underground???

forgive me but the only thing under him is mellymel.

epic lulz.

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Originally posted by elFreak forgive me but the only thing under him is mellymel.

I haven't laughed so hard in MD in a long time

He's a problem we have in this part of the world.

6 years ago, before net penetration had reached significant levels in India, and broadband was a distant dream for most... some DJs like myself traveled to London to buy records; often buying as many as 100 a time... and spacing the tunes out over a few months. Clubbers in India were happy to hear new tunes (considered underground) every few weeks and so life went on..

Today the same clubbers have access to the net, just as much as Djs do. The minute a DJ plays a new tune... 10 people have downloaded the track the next day. These same people, in 2 weeks time, complain that DJs aren't playing anything new or fresh... that there isn't anything "underground" any more.

In a sense, the trainspotters are ruining it for themselves by constantly feeding their desire to own more music... often not for any other purpose, than to be able to state, "I have that track". They then complain when their clubbing experience is constantly disappointing. And in india, it's not like if you don't like a club that plays house, you can stroll across to the bar that's playing dibstep or minimal. Choices are limited.

So in a sense, the internet has killed/damaged/changed perspective on The underground scene.

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Originally posted by nikhil chinapa He's a problem we have in this part of the world. 6 years ago, before net penetration had reached significant levels in India, and broadband was a distant dream for most... some DJs like myself traveled to London to buy records; often buying as many as 100 a time... and spacing the tunes out over a few months. Clubbers in India were happy to hear new tunes (considered underground) every few weeks and so life went on.. Today the same clubbers have access to the net, just as much as Djs do. The minute a DJ plays a new tune... 10 people have downloaded the track the next day. These same people, in 2 weeks time, complain that DJs aren't playing anything new or fresh... that there isn't anything "underground" any more. In a sense, the trainspotters are ruining it for themselves by constantly feeding their desire to own more music... often not for any other purpose, than to be able to state, "I have that track". They then complain when their clubbing experience is constantly disappointing. And in india, it's not like if you don't like a club that plays house, you can stroll across to the bar that's playing dibstep or minimal. Choices are limited. So in a sense, the internet has killed/damaged/changed perspective on The underground scene.

This is a great point.

I can't believe I didn't think of this earlier, simply because I have felt the same way on many occasions whilst listening to people ramble on about all the new releases they have, knowing that for them it's as much about "having it", as it is enjoying it.

This is a phenomenon seen all round the world, not just India.

I'm guilty of it myself too - trainspotting is a guilty pleasure you can just never resist.

That said, is there a better feeling in the world than IDing, tracking down and FINALLY getting your grubby mits on that massive track that DJ X or Y tore the room apart with a month before?

i can't help to trainspot - if you recognize it you recognize it. i go through a lot of music


that's why it's really important to me that when i go out i am hearing new stuff. if i hear stuff i already know i automatically go into trainspot mode, i know where all the drama is, i know how the deejay's going to mix out of it, etc, etc.


as for this 'problem in india'. i think i could put together a 2 hour set with music virtually no one would recognize there. likely the deejays are just playing crowdpleasing material

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Originally posted by Beat Blog That said, is there a better feeling in the world than IDing, tracking down and FINALLY getting your grubby mits on that massive track that DJ X or Y tore the room apart with a month before?

I've always felt a bit disappointed when I finally got it. Suddenly it lost all the magic for me, and I realized it was much more exciting when I didn't know what it was called and where to get it.

I still get a similar feeling when I get my hands on an awesome 12" I've been after for a while, but when I finally hold it, I'm like "Ok, cool, I can play it now." Much better is usually buying something you're not completely sure of, and then gradually realizing it's much better than you thought or that it has a fucking killer B-side you've never noticed.

@ Beat Blog / Nefardec... you guys trainspot for reasons beyond just wanting to own a track, I think?

Yes, there is a better feeling beatblog... it's being there in that room, hearing it for the first time and losing your tits to the tune!

Nefardec.. would like for you to post your set here www.submerge.in You'll find it's the most well behaved EDM forum in the world.. DJs here play sets that have to manage expectations of the dancefloor, clubowners and themselves... It's tricky in a country dominated by 91% music sales of film music.

But we manage... this is what we do at the year-end www.sunburn-festival.com I'm the festival director.

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Originally posted by distant I hate those indie remixes. That, the Black Ghosts remix, and the Depeche Mode remix... they're all shit. Luckily there's very little of it.

I heard -> this <- last friday and I threw up in my mouth a little bit. Didn't know there existed this kind of shit, I felt like listening to cheap euro-house remakes all over again.

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Originally posted by paulandrews I heard -> this <- last friday and I threw up in my mouth a little bit. Didn't know there existed this kind of shit, I felt like listening to cheap euro-house remakes all over again.

Kromestar's made two grime riddims with that sample as well. So clich�. He needs to stop releasing 10 records a month and start concentrating on making solid tracks.

Actually I can think of one good "pop" remix. Plastician's version of Kosheen's "Guilty". Pretty nice.

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Originally posted by paulandrews I still get a similar feeling when I get my hands on an awesome 12" I've been after for a while, but when I finally hold it, I'm like "Ok, cool, I can play it now." Much better is usually buying something you're not completely sure of, and then gradually realizing it's much better than you thought or that it has a fucking killer B-side you've never noticed.

That is also an awesome feeling!

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Originally posted by nikhil chinapa Yes, there is a better feeling beatblog... it's being there in that room, hearing it for the first time and losing your tits to the tune!

You misunderstand.

There's nothing in the world I like better than a set full of tunes I don't know. All the top acts I've seen have played material completely new to me. I despise people who say "DJ was shit, I didn't know anything he played"

I'm talking about post gig trainspotting, tracking down the music AFTER hearing, not identifying it on the night. It's a great feeling after hours/days/weeks/months/years of research to finally get that tune!

That said, it's also a good feeling when you have a little track that you treat as your own, and you hear it played out for the first time, besides the fact that the cat's now out of the bag.

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Originally posted by Beat Blog You misunderstand. I'm talking about post gig trainspotting, tracking down the music AFTER hearing, not identifying it on the night. It's a great feeling after hours/days/weeks/months/years of research to finally get that tune!

My bad... and True ^^^

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