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Posted by wolftickets on Aug-04-2008 18:57:

In some cases, the original mix was never released to the public, for example Tiesto - Theme From Norefjell. The only mix by Tiesto himself people have heard is the Magikal version. Or it was released, but the remix got much more play, and everyone thought of that as the "original".


Posted by klappa on Aug-04-2008 19:17:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
let's not even get into what 'dub' means LOL


Wasn't dub invented by Jamaicans?

Dub means that you strip off all voices in the record and grab a microphone





Well in reggae dub, is a record with stripped off vocals with could end up in countless of different versions with mc's rhyming over the top called dubs or later (remixes).... well i got it right?


Posted by nefardec on Aug-04-2008 21:23:

quote:
Originally posted by dj christian
Wasn't dub invented by Jamaicans?

Dub means that you strip off all voices in the record and grab a microphone



yeah 'dubbing' is a technique invented by jamaicans


but the reason I said that is that some people now use the word to mean anything with less vocals (myself included at times), even though it might not be produced in the same way that actual jamaican 'dub' is produced

it's just a stupid technical difference


Posted by julien2 on Aug-04-2008 22:08:

Well, i thought dubbing was not just about vocals.

I thought it was only about the arrangements. More emphasis on the bass and more stripped-down version of a track.

I might be wrong though.


Posted by nefardec on Aug-05-2008 00:21:

quote:
Originally posted by julien2
Well, i thought dubbing was not just about vocals.

I thought it was only about the arrangements. More emphasis on the bass and more stripped-down version of a track.

I might be wrong though.



lol this is what I mean

there are a lot of ways to look at what a 'dub' is now, but in the 60s and 70s, dub meant a very specific thing


Posted by Guest on Aug-05-2008 01:20:

what exactly is music anyway


Posted by DOOMBOT on Aug-05-2008 01:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Guest
what exactly is music anyway

cisum, but backwards.


Posted by GiorgioSolstice on Aug-05-2008 17:11:

Wow, I wasn't expecting this topic to last so long .. and anyway, the only reason I was wondering about this was because I tend to take the original mix tag off songs (don't know why, just do).

Oh yeah, and the way I worded the original question made it sound like I've never understood the difference between original and club, it was only when releases contained one or the other when I started to question what they meant. But anyway, I know the answer now, thanks


Posted by Guest on Aug-05-2008 17:27:

quote:
Originally posted by GiorgioSolstice
Wow, I wasn't expecting this topic to last so long .. and anyway, the only reason I was wondering about this was because I tend to take the original mix tag off songs (don't know why, just do).

Oh yeah, and the way I worded the original question made it sound like I've never understood the difference between original and club, it was only when releases contained one or the other when I started to question what they meant. But anyway, I know the answer now, thanks


oh no you think you can just end this thread on a high note? F THAT!!

I'm not leaving until this is a 10 page debate about dead


Posted by GiorgioSolstice on Aug-05-2008 18:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Guest
oh no you think you can just end this thread on a high note? F THAT!!

I'm not leaving until this is a 10 page debate about dead


Ok, go ahead, I'm not stopping you


Posted by Luke Terry on Aug-06-2008 23:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Guest
I see his point though. Some songs dont have an original mix. Just a club mix.

I think the 2 terms are interchangeable




Not necessarily, sometimes there is 'original club mix' just because the producer decided to word it that way... or perhaps alternatively produce an alternative mix, whether it be extended, chillout, breakbeat, dnb. etc.

It's an open term and not to be taken too seriously I'd say


Posted by hakudoshi on Aug-07-2008 06:39:

its funny how "certain people" on this site seem to think they are the almighty all knowing about everything musically related and anyone who is trying to inquire about things get attacked because these huge brains we have trolling the site can't grasp the concept of social interaction.

get a life some of you

a reworked quote from Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back

"The Internet has given everybody in America (and the world) a voice. For some reason, everybody decides to use that voice to bitch about movies (In this forums case, Music)"


Posted by nefardec on Aug-07-2008 07:02:

quote:
Originally posted by mimikish
"The Internet has given everybody in America (and the world) a voice. For some reason, everybody decides to use that voice to bitch about movies (In this forums case, Music)"



that's always better than bitching about bitching about music


Posted by elFreak on Aug-07-2008 07:51:

i tend to only tracklist with the remixes written, if it is the original mix i do not include it as it tends to be implied.


Posted by varun on Aug-07-2008 09:46:

From my understanding of seeing various vinyl / cd and digital releases thru the years.

quote:
Originally posted by varun
Let's go nuts shall we?

Original Mix - The absolute original 'track' that the artist mixed down (the most common of the lot)

Extended Mix - An extension of the original mix, adding some bars / drum loops to make it a bit longer.

12" Mix - Quite possibly, the Original mix, but edited so as to fit the time frame of a vinyl disc (assuming, the original mix is longer than the limit)

Instrumental Mix - Absolutely no vocals whatsoever, be it the chorus or any of the verses (There's usually a vocal mix present in this case.)

Vocal Mix - All the bells and whistles with complete vocals.

Dub Mix - Usually, just the chorus, not any of the verses.

Club Mix - As mentioned earlier, dance floor-oriented version of the original,more drum-loops, longer intros, basically dj-friendly.

There can be variations of the above, Original Club Mix, Vocal Club Mix , so on and so forth, as the artist chooses.


Posted by GiorgioSolstice on Aug-07-2008 11:07:

quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
i tend to only tracklist with the remixes written, if it is the original mix i do not include it as it tends to be implied.


Yeah, thats generally what I do


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