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Originally posted by chach I'll show you my nerd, if you show me yours

when i was 15 I was the project leader for an indie software developer making a strategy game about the lord of the rings

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Originally posted by nefardec when i was 15 I was the project leader for an indie software developer making a strategy game about the lord of the rings

I'm just an all around computer nerd.

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Originally posted by nefardec no love for borges?

borges > latin america.

currently reading Dante's "Inferno." anyone finished this?

*raises hand*

well?

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Originally posted by Pickles well?

It's alright I'm sure I would've enjoyed it more reading it in the 1300's cause I would know half the guys he was writing about.

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Originally posted by chach It's alright I'm sure I would've enjoyed it more reading it in the 1300's cause I would know half the guys he was writing about.

that's what i'm thinking. i picked up the Hollander translation as it was supposed to be the most "modern." but then the work starts digressing from its natural state. it's a no win situation.

It really is only interesting to read chosen excerpts from it such as those you would find in literature books. Such a long book too not worth a whole read.

reading parallel:



and (re-read)

I've had bad luck with books this summer. I haven't gotten through much because of long hours at work, and the books I have read since May haven't been worth writing home over.

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Originally posted by TranceGiant

I haven't read either of those but i have read quite a few books by murakami: Wild Sheep Chase, Kafka On The Shore, South Of The Border West Of The Sun, Wind Up bird chronicles. All very good.

Right now, i am reading The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho. It's not bad. But, i have to read it for school so it makes it much less enjoyable.

I've yet to read any Jack London or Thoreau; suggestions welcomed.

The Alchemist (read it years ago changed my life)

Fiction? weak sauce.


read the John Adams book

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Originally posted by diggerz The Alchemist (changed my life)

how so?

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Originally posted by Pickles how so?

Oh, it's a long story. Let's just say that I just saved a whole lot of money on my car Insurance.

reading this now

just needed to chime in.

Cortazar, bitches.

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Originally posted by nefardec nice I'm actually currently on my second re-read in spanish. Such a good book

that's quite cool actually. me too.

f this s.

starting 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance,' almost 30 years too late.

ups to Cortazar. can't forget Rulfo.

Adam, no sabia que tu tambien hablabas espanol?! que bien, ahora preparate porque no te voy a parar de hablar en espanol. oye, pero el espanol coherente (de espana no de mexico!) oh sick burn!



Albert Camus is one of my favorite authors. he's able to lead readers in & out of different environments which feels more like a film than a book; like joyce, camus has the ability to thwart, and distill a variety of motifs & themes in a way that it moves along in a straight and subtle tempo (scale).

i think 'rhythm' is more befitting than 'tempo'. anyways, i can't get enough of "the guest". i suggest, if you're into books and stuff, check out his material. very cool stuff

The Philosophy of the Dark Knight

on the wish-list with all of adam's spirituality books i've yet to read...

The editors and authors of this book have loved Batman since he is human and without super powers; he is so complex, he can be used as a vehicle or ploy to discuss philosophical concepts. I know little of formal philosophy, but this book was a good introduction to so many concepts, and quite intellectually funny at the same time. There are Six Parts in this book. Part One: Does The Dark Knight Always Do Right?; Part Two: Law Justice and the Social Order; Where Does Batman Fit In?; Part Three: Origins and Ethics: Why Become The Caped Crusader; Part Four: Who Is The Batman?; Part Five: Being The Bat: Insights from Existentialism and Taoism; and Part Six: Friend, Father.. Rival?: The Many Roles of The Bat.

Of course, much of this book was above my head and bat ears. But the parts I thoroughly enjoyed were quite informative. For example, in the first chapter, the author asks whether Batman is a Utilitarian or a Deontologist? Why doesn't Batman just kill the Joker, if he knows that he will merely kill again and kill close friends? Is the death of one Joker better than hundreds of innocent victims? The authors tell the story of a runaway trolley and a person who stands at the switch. The train can hit and kill five bystanders if you do nothing, or you can divert the track and the train will kill just one person. Can you get involved and kill fewer people? Are those parties deemed morally equivalent? Deontologists judge the morality of an act, regardless of the consequences (the ends do not justify the means). The second chapter looks at Ethics, in "Is it Right to Make a Robin?" "What should Bruce Wayne? How should he Live his life? What sort of person should he be?... Is it right (ethical) for Batman to take an orphan and train him to fight crime instead of turning him into social services? Can we excuse Batman for throwing a young man at vicious criminals in a spandex outfit? In this chapter, the reader learns about Kant, Mill, Bentham, Plato, and deon(duty)tological ethics, virtue ethics, universal ethics, and categorical (without exception) ethics. (Can Batman lie to the Joker? Can he choose to be ethical only some of the time?) In Chapter 3, the author looks at Aristotle and virtue ethics and Batman's hatred as a virtue. Batman, a loner, makes a virtue of vice, perhaps. The author asks whether Batman is virtuous or does he merely DO virtuous things?

In "Governing Gotham" the authors look at Batman as a reaction to the failure and incapacity of the government to control crime and protect Bruce Wayne's parents from being murdered. They throw in Max Weber's view of state legitimacy, as well as Hobbes' Leviathan. Plus they throw in Nietzsche and his views on the state as a threat to liberty and self expression. Can only the state use force to bring law and order? Or can Batman use force as well? In Chapter 11, the authors ask whether Batman Could Have Been the Joker?. They discuss identities and ModAl and metaphysics (the study of what exists and how it goes about existing). That was too deep for my pea sized brain. The same holds true for Chapter 12, in which Wittgenstein's ideas on identity and language are brought to bear on Batman. Chapter 18, on the nature of friendship (Batman and Superman), Aristotle, loyalty, and Nietsche's ubermensch were easier for me to understand. All these just skim the surface of the wealth of ideas and explanations found in this book. Reading it will spur great discussions on the new Batman film, and you will learn more about philosophical ideas than you thought possible.

Larry Mark "editor of MyJewishBooks.com"

http://www.amazon.com/Batman-Philos...25300926&sr=8-1

ITT: "people who read" aka "readers"

not.a.big.deal

baller

b0p

I'm heading to the library before I do my grocery shopping. Anyone have any new books to recommend? I'm not going to say what I'm into because I want to be open up to anything.

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