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Originally posted by kotsy That's disappointing. This is what I was scared of happening when Z started to do their live to airs from guv. I was hoping it'd be a night from Guv on Z103.5 but instead it's a night from Guv with Z music on Z103.5 The 35% cancon rule ends at midnight from what I remember

This wont affect Marks TL. The fact that he is a Canadian DJ performing live on air is enough to satisfy the regulations.

You guys are all such drama queens.

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Originally posted by activate either way, Mark Oliver is GREAT DJ and a great guy!

I agree. Having frequented the Guv for years and years, I've never failed to have good moments in that place, week after week, when he was on decks.

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Originally posted by Dave Akermanis The fact that he is a Canadian DJ performing live on air is enough to satisfy the regulations.

That is false. To satisfy cancon regulations a track must qualify through the MAPL system. If the dj being Canadian made any difference then almost every Canadian station would be able to use that loop hole as well. The fact that it's a live to air dj doesn't change anything.

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The MAPL System The MAPL* system refers to the four elements in the Radio Regulations used to qualify musical selections as Canadian. These elements were selected, as part of the Canadian content regulations, following an extensive public hearing process. The MAPL system is designed to stimulate all components of the Canadian music industry and to be as simple as possible for the industry to implement and regulate. Objectives The primary objective -- a cultural one -- is to encourage increased exposure of Canadian musical performers, lyricists and composers to Canadian audiences. The secondary objective -- an industrial one -- is to strengthen the Canadian music industry, including both the creative and production components. How does it work? 1. To qualify as 'Canadian content' a musical selection must generally fulfill at least two of the following conditions: M (music) -- the music is composed entirely by a Canadian. A (artist) -- the music is, or the lyrics are, performed principally by a Canadian. P (production) -- the musical selection consists of a live performance that is (i) recorded wholly in Canada, or (ii) performed wholly in Canada and broadcast live in Canada. L (lyrics) -- the lyrics are written entirely by a Canadian. 2. There are four special cases where a musical selection may qualify as Canadian content. * The musical selection was recorded before January 1972 and meets one of the above conditions. * It is an instrumental performance of a musical composition written or composed by a Canadian. * It is a performance of a musical composition that a Canadian has composed for instruments only. * The musical selection was performed live or recorded after September 1, 1991 and, in addition to meeting the criterion for either artist or production, a Canadian who has collaborated with a non-Canadian receives at least half of the credit for both music and lyrics. This document is available in alternative format upon request. Date Modified: 2001-05-31

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Originally posted by kotsy That is false. To satisfy cancon regulations a track must qualify through the MAPL system. If the dj being Canadian made any difference then almost every Canadian station would be able to use that loop hole as well. The fact that it's a live to air dj doesn't change anything.

it has nothing to do with MAPL. Its a live performance by a canadian artist. Try reading the regs.

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Originally posted by Dave Akermanis it has nothing to do with MAPL. Its a live performance by a canadian artist. Try reading the regs.

I've talked to a live-to-air dj before and he said he still had to do 35% cancon

I think that live performances only apply to bands since djs are still playing pre-recorded music and thus MAPL comes into effect

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Originally posted by junkie_vince I never said you don�t know what you�re talking about� read my post don�t just pick out a few words & hit reply. I said I find it funny. Both new threads by very new members & both basically putting local To. dj�s down. I could be wrong & one may not have anything to do with the other but its still a bit funny... at least to me.

Anything to make Vince smile and laugh is amazin!

/hi five

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Originally posted by zokissima I agree. Having frequented the Guv for years and years, I've never failed to have good moments in that place, week after week, when he was on decks.

Complete opposite experience from me.

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Originally posted by kotsy I've talked to a live-to-air dj before and he said he still had to do 35% cancon I think that live performances only apply to bands since djs are still playing pre-recorded music and thus MAPL comes into effect

then just pad the entire set with deadmau5 tracks is the obvious answer.

Go check him out at Basement on the long weekend....I imagine he'll blow the walls off that place....if not than maybe there is cause for concern! haha

MO is at his best when not at Guv....if Guv is the only place you've heard MO then you are not doing yourself any favours.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced MO is at his best when not at Guv....if Guv is the only place you've heard MO then you are not doing yourself any favours.

My god how long have you been going there???

Because from 2000 to 2004, you couldn't compete with a MO solo night in the Guv...

And I'm talking globally...

I was in Ibiza in the summer of 2003 and I had friends who'd told me stories about all of the other big clubs in the world..

And all of the comparisons were the same...They didn't compare...

I may not like all the tunes he's playing these days but that guy def gave me some of the best Saturday nights in my life...

Check that...THE best sat nights of my life...

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Originally posted by VDub Because from 2000 to 2004, you couldn't compete with a MO solo night in the Guv...I may not like all the tunes he's playing these days but that guy def gave me some of the best Saturday nights in my life...

+1

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Originally posted by VDub My god how long have you been going there??? Because from 2000 to 2004, you couldn't compete with a MO solo night in the Guv... And I'm talking globally... I was in Ibiza in the summer of 2003 and I had friends who'd told me stories about all of the other big clubs in the world.. And all of the comparisons were the same...They didn't compare... I may not like all the tunes he's playing these days but that guy def gave me some of the best Saturday nights in my life... Check that...THE best sat nights of my life...

you got me all wrong...I am not saying that his sets are bad at Guv...heck...I've been going there for 10 years.....all I am saying is some of the best sets I've heard from MO are when he's not at guv.....some of MOs nights at Viva were legendary for me.

I have always been a huge fan of MO....one of the firt DJs to get me going out on a regular basis and when I stopped going out for a couple of years it was missing MO sets that got me back.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced you got me all wrong...I am not saying that his sets are bad at Guv...heck...I've been going there for 10 years.....all I am saying is some of the best sets I've heard from MO are when he's not at guv.....some of MOs nights at Viva were legendary for me. I have always been a huge fan of MO....one of the firt DJs to get me going out on a regular basis and when I stopped going out for a couple of years it was missing MO sets that got me back.

Fair enough...


BTW....

Did you ever see him at Limelight on Wednesday nights???

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Originally posted by Dave Akermanis This wont affect Marks TL. The fact that he is a Canadian DJ performing live on air is enough to satisfy the regulations. You guys are all such drama queens.

Actually that's not the case at all. If that were the case any music format radio station in Canada could argue that the music was being played by a Canadian DJ.

I went to school for broadcasting, and while it's been a few years i do remember that by definition, Canadian content means that the music must have 2 or the following... music must be composed by a Canadian, music or lyrics performed by a Canadian, must be produced in Canada or the vocals must be performed by a Canadian.

I've played on the radio and had mixes played on the radio and was required to have a certain amount of Canadian content.

I know for a fact that the DJs are required to play a certain amount of Canadian music. I was told by more than one GUV DJ. If you'd like I will call the club and reconfirm this for you. lol

Though I will say that I'm not entirely positive that Mark is given a track list that he has to work from. I only assumed that as I've been given one by a radio station before and I've been there during the live to air and seen him consulting a sheet and some obvious communication going on between him and the Z103 people.

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Originally posted by Dave Akermanis it has nothing to do with MAPL. Its a live performance by a canadian artist. Try reading the regs.

it's not a live performance. he's playing pre-recorded music.

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Originally posted by kotsy That's disappointing. This is what I was scared of happening when Z started to do their live to airs from guv. I was hoping it'd be a night from Guv on Z103.5 but instead it's a night from Guv with Z music on Z103.5 The 35% cancon rule ends at midnight from what I remember

nope.

35% of the weeks programing must be canadian. and during peak day hours they must also have 35% canadian.

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Originally posted by activate nope. 35% of the weeks programing must be canadian. and during peak day hours they must also have 35% canadian.

is this why they play so much fucking avril lavigne during the day?
goddamn

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Originally posted by geroin i this why they play so much fucking avril lavigne during the day? goddamn

well she's actually pretty popular globally, so maybe not.

but it does explain the abundance of shitty ass canadian bands

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Originally posted by activate nope. 35% of the weeks programing must be canadian. and during peak day hours they must also have 35% canadian.

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Originally posted @ http://www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/N...998/PB98-41.HTM Overnight Canadian Content 119. The current Canadian content regulations relate only to the broadcast day, that being the time period between 6:00 a.m. to midnight, Sunday to Saturday.

i see.. well it has been a about 8 years since i studied that shit. lol

but regardless, at Guv they do require them to have some Canadian content. Could just be station policy... I heard from someone that works there that 102.1 has a policy like that.

if you read the other 4 sections after that you'll see that the CRTC while it doesn't mandate it, it does encourage that broadcasters meet the day time requirement overnight, and the recording industry wanted it as well. I'm sure most mainstream stations stick somewhat close to anyways just to stay in the good books of the CRTC.

what are the hours of the live to air anyways?

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Originally posted by activate i see.. well it has been a about 8 years since i studied that shit. lol but regardless, at Guv they do require them to have some Canadian content. Could just be station policy... I heard from someone that works there that 102.1 has a policy like that. if you read the other 4 sections after that you'll see that the CRTC while it doesn't mandate it, it does encourage that broadcasters meet the day time requirement overnight, and the recording industry wanted it as well. I'm sure most mainstream stations stick somewhat close to anyways just to stay in the good books of the CRTC. what are the hours of the live to air anyways?

Only been 4 years since I studied all the regs The only reason I remember this rule is because I had a show on the college's FM station from midnight-2am and didn't have to play any cancon.

The live-to-air @ guv is from 10-2 (first hour in orange room, 2nd hour in drink/skybar, 3rd/4th hour in main room)

So legally the first two rooms have to play cancon and MO has free reign since he doesn't go on-air till midnight. I wouldn't be surprised if Z had a station policy like The Edge as it's definitely a good idea to be in CRTC's good books when you're up for a new license.

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Originally posted by activate During his live to air portion of the set I'm pretty sure he's provided with a set list that he has to work from. And I know that there has to be a certain amount of Canadian content. either way, Mark Oliver is GREAT DJ and a great guy!

wrong. mark can play whatever he wants. no track list. no canadian content because it is after 12am.

as for people whining about his opening sets, well... opening sets are called that for a reason. the dj is opening for the headliner. imagine the opener dj playing all the bomb tracks and stealing the thunder away from the headliner? shit would hit the fan. mark does a great job regardless if he is opening or closing or playing all night. the problem here is most of you have no idea what you are talking about.

Heh. Good opening DJs are worth their price in gold.
Anyone could be a good peak time DJ.

But only few DJs are excellent opening DJs, esp when you gotta open for like 3 hours before the headliner gets on the decks.

I don't know what a lot of you guys expect from an opening DJ, but if you're dancing your ass off... That's not really suppose to happen. (and consider restrictions that some headliners put on opening DJ, ie can't play certain tunes or style, not going over certain BPM, etc.) It's a challenge

If an opening DJ gets me in the groove for the night, I'm happy with that.

I'm going to take this time to mention that I really disagree with the whole opening set idea that the opening DJ has to suck in order not to steal thunder away from the headliner.

First, to me, an opening set should be more about setting up the feel for the headliner, and you can have a good set that does it that isn't necessarily composed of huge club bangers. Just don't make it boring.

Second, fuck the headliner. No DJ should sacrifice his ability to deliver a good set just so the headliner looks better by comparison. The reason the headliner is the headliner is that he/she should be able to deliver no matter what. If the opening DJ decides to throw down a banging set, the headliner's job is to continue where the opening DJ left off, not bitch about stolen thunder. WTF are the headliners getting paid for then? Any DJ can seem amazing if the guy before him fucks up on purpose.

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