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Re: Does Ebonics exemplify American laziness or efficiency?

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Originally posted by david.michael - The copula "be" is often dropped. [examples: "You crazy! (You are crazy)",

no no no it is not dropped just placed elsewhere in the sentence.


[examples: "YOU CRAZY BE!" (you are crazy)

Re: Re: Does Ebonics exemplify American laziness or efficiency?

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy no no no it is not dropped just placed elsewhere in the sentence. [examples: "YOU CRAZY BE!" (you are crazy)

LOL. Well done.

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY the letter "u" is acceptable for the word "you" on the internetz. It also sounds the exact same. U fail.

It always bugs me when I see "u" because I tend to think of single letters and numbers in my native tongue, but I see "you" as an english word, so in my head they're pronounced very differently.

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Originally posted by david.michael lol I knew I was baiting you right in to this thread anyway when I posted it

Hehe

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Originally posted by chimera66 i do try...it's because i'm african-america (truly because my family is actually in kenya mostly). my parents speak three languages as do most people in kenya so why the hell can't some americans speak one...english? they should feel embarrased by the fact that they can't communicate in their own language.

They can't? Wow, they must be really good at guessing

I don't mind the English language shifting or being influence by certain dialects. But I think ebonics is a crock of shit. It one of two only dialects that aren't regionally bound. In other words, people talk this way as a part of a mentality they adopt, as opposed to talking this way because everyone else in the region talks this way. Gaybonics is the other non-regionally bound dialect, and for that reason I hate gay people too.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel Athough Ebonics is the "Creole" of US English...

Incorrect. Ebonics is not a creole. A creole is a pidgin with native speakers. A pidgin is a language created from at least two existing languages (at least one substrate and a superstrate) in situations where there is no common language between speakers and one must be created out of necessity.

Ebonics is merely a dialect of one source language: American English. It is only less correct than "proper speaking" through largely arbitrary processes of standardisation. It's definitely arguable that teaching a dialect over standardised language is wrong as it limits the communication and options of the pupil, but there is nothing essentially different about Ebonics from the way any of you talk when you deviate from completely standardised American English, and as such there's nothing inherently wrong with it either.

Motherfucker.

As soon as I read "American English", any credibility went straight out the window.

niggers

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Originally posted by Fledz As soon as I read "American English", any credibility went straight out the window.

Luckily, I don't give a shit about what you think is credible. American English is a recognised standardised form of English. It's taught in schools, written in dictionaries and spoken by the government. Go and read a beginner's guide to sociolinguistics and then I might, might start caring about what you deem credible.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Go and read a beginner's guide to sociolinguistics and then I might, might start caring about what you deem credible.

You study linguistics too?

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Luckily, I don't give a shit about what you think is credible. American English is a recognised standardised form of English. It's taught in schools, written in dictionaries and spoken by the government. Go and read a beginner's guide to sociolinguistics and then I might, might start caring about what you deem credible.

Oh please. The only reason you use it is because your ancestors wanted to get away from the English as much as possible and now use a bastardized form of it.

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Originally posted by Fledz Oh please. The only reason you use it is because your ancestors wanted to get away from the English as much as possible and now use a bastardized form of it.

J is British (English, actually).

That makes it even worse then

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY I fucking hate it when I have to talk to a black person or hear one and they can't say the word "ask" properly. WTF it's not a hard word to pronounce. You were born on America, its not "aks" or "axe" it's ask u fucking idiot.

I worked with someone who went to an Ivy League school then Harvard Law, and she used the word 'aks/ax'

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel Well considering that, do you approve of the "African-American" label for blacks that have no idea of their origin?

This reminds me of an interview I saw on TV a few years ago with Nelson Mandela. The American journo referred to him as being 'African-American' for the whole interview...

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY I fucking hate it when I have to talk to a black person or hear one and they can't say the word "ask" properly. WTF it's not a hard word to pronounce. You were born on America, its not "aks" or "axe" it's ask u fucking idiot.

That's so fucking ironic.

Can you please send me an audio file of you saying the words "vase" and "herb"?

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Originally posted by fbgdavidson This reminds me of an interview I saw on TV a few years ago with Nelson Mandela. The American journo referred to him as being 'African-American' for the whole interview...

That's gold. I see nothing wrong with the word black.

One my co-workers at the mine who works under me at Concentrator always uses Ebonics a few of use get tire of him fast so I usually send him on grunt jobs to pick up stuff at warehouse or fix the ramps that gives use material.

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Originally posted by Fledz That's gold. I see nothing wrong with the word black.

Every one of my black friends loathes the term and thinks it is stupid and counter-productive. I think it's funny when white people feel they are doing them a favor by using the term.

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Originally posted by Beat Blog That's so fucking ironic. Can you please send me an audio file of you saying the words "vase" and "herb"?

I'm way to lazy for that

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY I'm way to lazy for that

Do you say "voz" and "hurb"? You do, don't you?

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Originally posted by david.michael Do you say "voz" and "hurb"? You do, don't you?

and "huge" is pronounced w/o sounding the "h"

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Originally posted by david.michael Every one of my black friends loathes the term and thinks it is stupid and counter-productive. I think it's funny when white people feel they are doing them a favor by using the term.

an attractive and successful African-American.


how many blacks are actually African??


also, what's up with the Bostonians saying "idear"? are they really compensating for "pahking cahs"?


innit?

Let's not forget the Jersey Shore peeps, and the Staten Island folks

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY Let's not forget the Jersey Shore peeps, and the Staten Island folks

they make me cringe.

Especially old loud Brooklyn folks.

I just hate the loudness and obnoxious way the pronounce shit.

ugh!

SI Moms sound like they are in fuking highschool. Ridic.

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