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Posted by Ste on May-29-2002 22:35:

quote:
Originally posted by MoSH_MaN
S.H.O.K.K

etc...


LMFAO giotto DJs in a small local club and hardly anyone likes him, how is he overated?

also most people dont like dumonde AS DJS (remember the topic of this thread ) who have actually heard them dj, because they dont play boring tracks at the start of the set as it seems so they too arnt overated...


Posted by Strike on May-29-2002 22:48:

Oakenfold

i hate his track selection, and not into the tracks he produced either


Posted by Az on May-29-2002 22:49:

quote:
Originally posted by DuMonde TrAnCeR


LMFAO giotto DJs in a small local club and hardly anyone likes him, how is he overated?

also most people dont like dumonde AS DJS (remember the topic of this thread ) who have actually heard them dj, because they dont play boring tracks at the start of the set as it seems so they too arnt overated...


Think he was getting mixed up on the whole DJ producer thing, easily done that
PvD is overated, Tiesto is overated
Poeple have said Corstens overated, when I saw him I had one of the best nights of my life, his mixing was good, and the track selection was awesome
AvB is so underrated it's unreal, as a DJ and a Producer, the guys awesome (check out future funland under his Perpetuous Dreamer guise, one of those tracks that is rarely spoken of, and even more rarely played)


Posted by Rakoon on May-29-2002 22:57:

quote:
Originally posted by tranceaholic
sahsa and digweed way over rated. dont like there stuff..


Oh yeah, how could I forget! Besides PvD, Sasha and Digweed also make it on my list


Posted by BLuEOcEaN420 on May-29-2002 23:19:

quote:
Originally posted by mr_sick
So the only non over-rated dj is Armin Van Buuren

No1 spoke about him, he kicks ass


meh. i guess someones gotta do the dirty job ill be the the first to say it. i think as a DJ Armin is way over rated. as a producer hes probably underrated lol. i love his productions but as a DJ... eh... hes not all that great at least imo.. but i do think that oen of the reason ppl may say hes underrated is b/c hes not AS known as his fellow dutch DJs... them being Tiesto & Ferry mainly... i also think that Tiesto is way over rated these days...


personally as a DJ i think Gielen is way underrated, and im sure that most people who have had the oppurtunity to see him would agree

-BLuEOCEaN420
~70278330~


Posted by jp on May-29-2002 23:28:

At the moment all d.j.'s seem overrated

But most of the big names are doing their job very well:

PVD, AVB, B&J, PO, CG, T, D, KT...


Posted by Mills on May-29-2002 23:33:

The thing is all these big name DJ's are only around cos of their productions not because of their mixing.

There are far better DJ's undiscovered who would beat any of these DJ's hands down when it comes to fletching some vinyl on the wheels of steel.


Posted by jp on May-29-2002 23:40:

Big names don't spin, they 'perform live'

It's like a concert...

Especially Blank and Jones play their own records 50% of the set


Posted by dJohn on May-29-2002 23:55:

Wow! A large response from a very diversified audience.
While many think on a denominatory level(i.e Tiesto sucks!) it all comes down to personal taste.
Alot of people think PvD is overrated...in someways, he is. But in MY opinion, PvD seems to deserve his glory...his sets are awesome, his production skills legendary in the trance community, and because of his skills in those two areas, his name carries for itself.
Then you have Oakenfold. Deserves credit for what he has done for the music scene, butIMO, NOT what he can do. I saw him @ Coachella a month ago, and his set was pretty boring and standard...I think I could've pulled off a more spiritual and fun set than him!
Johan Gielen...two sided. Alot of people think he is over/underrated. I never heard any of his sets, so I couldn't tell.
Tiesto is Tiesto. Production skills are top notch, but he does not deserve the respect as a DJ as he does right now. He may be @ his prime as of the moment, but it's only that...a moment. I don't think his DJing skills will carry him too far for too long.
AvB deserves mad props. His remixes and songs are top notch...energetic, memorable and no sense of cheese whatsoever.
FC still sucks IMO though


Posted by iodine on May-29-2002 23:56:

I am by far the most overrated DJ known to man. Everyone loves me but i can't even beat match. I just start throwing shit in the crowd and when people are running around trying to dodge it i switch tracks really fast so they don't even notice the massive train wreck that just occured. Its really great to read another positive post about the best DJ's in the world sucking so bad. Come on the reason you even think peoples mixing skills suck is because you have listened to a number of thier sets and they are available. I have heard a set by tiesto where he didn't even have headphones. Sasha and Digweed boring but they mix for about 3 minutes a track. that shit is hard. I guess i am blabbing. get a life and quit putting up dumb threads.


Posted by Nucleogenesis on May-30-2002 00:23:

Behold, my arse. fds

that would be the judge


Posted by Eugene on May-30-2002 00:44:

quote:
Originally posted by iodine
Sasha and Digweed boring but they mix for about 3 minutes a track. that shit is hard.

Nope it's not, given the kind of music they play.
When you play progressive house none of which has any melody, and all of which is pretty similar, it's relatively easy to mix -- much easier than, say, uplifting Trance.


Posted by Tranz on May-30-2002 01:15:

These threads are always entertaining. Obviously it depends on personal taste. They are more then a few DJ's that might seem overrated, because of their lack of creativity during their livesets that are shared throughout the MP3 community. Yet the reality of it is that we only know what we've actually heard, and most would be recorded live sets. I think everyone can agree that when we are there live, the musik always sounds better. It moves us much more when the musik goes through a beautiful sound system, with the atmosphere of the party, club, and other people around us. There is no way to duplicate the reaction between the DJ and the Fans & Freaks, on a pre-recored live set. What makes a good DJ to me, is to hear unknown tracks, that sometimes take months to find.

I will say this, some of the obvious choices for overrated DJ's have already been named. There are definitely more overrated DJ's than there are underrated DJ's. Some of my underrated DJ's would be Piet Bervoets(Rank1), DJ Taucher & most of the Bonzai DJ's(Fire, M.I.K.E., Yves, Chris Raven, Ghost, etc...)


Posted by wookieslut on May-30-2002 05:28:

this thread is fucking gay when people start raggin on the big name djs like oakenfold, tiesto, and van dyk...and sasha and digweed??????you think they are overrated???? come on grow up.


Posted by wookieslut on May-30-2002 05:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Eugene

Nope it's not, given the kind of music they play.
When you play progressive house none of which has any melody, and all of which is pretty similar, it's relatively easy to mix -- much easier than, say, uplifting Trance.


what kinda of bullshit is that? mixing prog house is no easier then trance...in fact its harder since the beats vary so much and dont have that steady kick snare pattern of trance tunes. Digweed is a fucking pro...i dont think its right to knock on his talent.


Posted by Nadi on May-30-2002 05:39:

Tuwari

I think tiesto is way overrated as a dj. As far as i can tell he only gets to dj becuase hes such an amazing producer. His track selection is fairly decent but his djing skills arnt quite there. However most of us cant slam these guys because we cant mix at all


Posted by Verona^My on May-30-2002 05:47:

quote:
Originally posted by wookieslut
this thread is fucking gay when people start raggin on the big name djs like oakenfold, tiesto, and van dyk...and sasha and digweed??????you think they are overrated???? come on grow up.


I dont care bout DJ's anyways, I just want to hear some nice tunes. Or a nice well crafted set of original music like PVD's Out There and Back or some non-stop trance artist albums like Space Cat - Beam Me Up...


Posted by Dave_Masters on May-30-2002 06:42:

quote:
Originally posted by tranceaddict991
Dj Scot Project....he gets alot of hype around here...mayb its jsut cuz i dont like harder trance but i dont like him much


have u seen him live?????

His mixing skillz are immense! just because you dont like the style doesnt mean you should call him overated!


Posted by mr_sick on May-30-2002 07:58:

quote:
Some of my underrated DJ's would be Piet Bervoets(Rank1), DJ Taucher & most of the Bonzai DJ's(Fire, M.I.K.E., Yves, Chris Raven, Ghost, etc...)


I totally agree with you! YDR is way underrated! I saw him live dozens of time when he was resident at cherry moon and he did the best transitions I ever heard. When he mix it's like he tell us a story. You could never say when he is mixing two tracks cause the transition is so smooth. I don't know why he sometimes fuck up on some livesets I heard from him. He also uses some tricks that you'll never heard with other dj's. Dj Ghost is not a trance dj but he has mad skills, I never hear a trainwreck from him

I forgot to mention that Digweed and Sasha are too overrated for me (Digweed n�1 dj last year! He is so boring)


Posted by evil_bastard on May-30-2002 10:25:

I think people are getting carried away calling everyone shit.

You have to ask yourself:

a) How is that DJ rated by the majority of the trance community?

b) Is that rating accurate?


Darude is not over-rated because noone rates him highly in the first place.

I would nominate Tiesto. He is rated as the best in the world by many, and I think he does not stand out from the pack at all. He is playing where I live this weekend for 3 hours, but I'm tempted to miss it as I'm saving for a holiday.


Posted by evil_bastard on May-30-2002 10:28:

quote:
Originally posted by mr_sick


I totally agree with you! YDR is way underrated! I saw him live dozens of time when he was resident at cherry moon and he did the best transitions I ever heard. When he mix it's like he tell us a story. You could never say when he is mixing two tracks cause the transition is so smooth. I don't know why he sometimes fuck up on some livesets I heard from him. He also uses some tricks that you'll never heard with other dj's. Dj Ghost is not a trance dj but he has mad skills, I never hear a trainwreck from him

I forgot to mention that Digweed and Sasha are too overrated for me (Digweed n�1 dj last year! He is so boring)


I've never seen Yves Deruyter, but he played where I live a few weeks ago (I couldn't afford to go), and a lot of people thought his mixing was shit. His productions are mint, but he seems to get quite a bit of flak for his mixing. I'll have to see him myself some time before I make my own judgement.


Posted by QuickSilver on May-30-2002 11:42:

Cool no real DJs post here aparently

Aparrently some of the poeple here are pure raver fans who don't really know what are real mixing skillz...i guess if u guys go by just what u think u are hearing then i can't stil contradict you by saying what about thew DJ tiesto set on dance valley...he was in his home country and he delivered hard... paul van dyk..u wanna hear him live mixing just go the the live senction on trance addict and u will download a super sweet set by him, he is an awsome Dj what some of u are failiong to realaize is that there are diferent stiles of mixing, in eigther case it depends on the chopices they have fro the music...like I'm too much of a fan of the live music digweed plays but his skills for mixing 2 songs for a while before switching to the next one are awsome...Dj tiesto sets are awsome they always get the crowd going...his mixies are much more cut breaking in between songs because he does a good job at swtiching the highs in the mixer from one to to the other which is not easy at all...I know thi because i'm a DJ myself i've -played in rave in and clubs in seatle oullman Washington, Spokane and in Tucson, and what i write was a comon description of what theses big name Djs are like, they are all awsome, wheather u liek them or not...ifu start bringin they are too progressive, then u are oviouly being bias because u don't like progressive too much...IF there is one big name i think is a little overrated then i guess is tall paul as i like his production mixes but but they are the ver very best and his live sets are not in good choice of songs constatly so i think he is a really good Dj but not as good as he should be

PS. by the way i'm kinda high and drunk so sorry about the spelling


Posted by ZENtiiz on May-30-2002 12:02:

most overrated... dj tiesto
most underrated... johan gielen

though his sets are not the ultimate music for me they are just soooo terribly good


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