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Posted by Moral Hazard on Oct-10-2008 15:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
You don't acquire a 26 billion company just so Win Mobile has less competition. It's a gigantic waste of money imo.


True, but I'm not suggesting that would be the only reason. At present MS doesn't manufacture smart phones... if they were to purchase RIM they would become the market leader in smart phones. That's why they would acquire a 26 billion dollar company. The fact that RIM is undervalued just adds more incentive.

I'm not saying that MS will do this, just that it's not an outlandish idea.


Posted by exstasie on Oct-10-2008 15:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
You don't acquire a 26 billion company just so Win Mobile has less competition. It's a gigantic waste of money imo.


MS apparently has 23 billion in cash so they won't have to acquire debt to purchase them.

Are admitting that RIM is a waste of a company and cannot provide any added value if MS were to acquire them?

And yes, I would pay $26B for less competition, especially if it'll give you majority market share and a huge lead ahead of Google & Apple.

It's easier to acquire someone else's product then to innovate your own.


Posted by E2EK1EL on Oct-10-2008 17:11:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
http://www.reuters.com/article/inno...E4988H620081009



yeah read about that this morning ...


Posted by E2EK1EL on Oct-10-2008 17:12:

TELUS jumping on the 4G bus; 2010 launch



High-speed hungry Canadians will soon have a new option when seeking out a wireless carrier. This morning, TELUS officially announced its plans to get rolling on a 4G network with a target launch sometime in early 2010. That�s right people, our pals north of the border will be feasting on 4G data in just over a year while we�re probably still angry that all the iPhone 3Gs out there are dropping throughput to EDGE-like speeds. TELUS CEO snippet time:

This technology evolution is a win for Canadian consumers. TELUS� investment in next generation wireless services will give our clients more wireless functionality including; international roaming, fast network speeds and a compelling selection of globally-compatible handsets and devices. As the next evolution in our multi-network strategy, this initiative will position TELUS to actively participate in the future global LTE eco-system and leverage economies of scale, offer timely access to handsets, and enhance global roaming relationships and revenues.

Through a revised agreement with Bell, TELUS will be using the 1900 MHz and 850 MHz spectrum and both Nokia Siemens Networks and Huawei will be providing the LTE gear. The entire project is expected to run TELUS about $750 million.


Posted by Jer on Oct-10-2008 17:54:

I can't wait to proudly say FUCK ROGERS.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Oct-10-2008 19:22:

Sweeeeeeet.


Posted by Jem_hadar on Oct-10-2008 20:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Shaya007
Bell uses cdma and let me tell ya..IT sucks balls!


I'm with Solo (Bell), and have no complaints. Love my reception. No issues at all.


Posted by Candeeman on Oct-10-2008 22:51:

quote:
Originally posted by SasH21
What's a CDMA?


Code Division Multiple Access

It's a newer technology than GSM.


Posted by spiderpig on Oct-11-2008 17:03:

So I just spoke to someone from Telus.

Apparently the Storm is going to be quite pricey. It's a world phone, plus it's their new baby. The person I spoke to is saying the price point will be more than the 8830 world edition.. snap.

right now the 8830's price points are:

3 year/ $299
2 year/ $549
1 year/ $599
no contract/ $649

I'm probably still going to get the thing, but man..


Posted by SasH21 on Oct-13-2008 00:46:

Ok so i got the scoop from my boyfriend who works for telus corporate.
the device is a cdma/quad band gsm device, so yes you can travel with it internationaly.

telus will be the only carrier with this device in canada. verizon in the states.

will be available very soon, but at a hefty price.


Posted by FunkyCrew on Oct-13-2008 03:26:

quote:
Originally posted by SasH21
Ok so i got the scoop from my boyfriend who works for telus corporate.
the device is a cdma/quad band gsm device, so yes you can travel with it internationaly.

telus will be the only carrier with this device in canada. verizon in the states.

will be available very soon, but at a hefty price.


coolio!
don't get the "cdma/quad band gsm device" part though - so it's CDMA in Canada, but being a GSM device, you can travel with it... so you can still put SIM cards in it and use it in London, UK, for example?


Posted by dEsidEL on Oct-13-2008 05:34:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
coolio!
don't get the "cdma/quad band gsm device" part though - so it's CDMA in Canada, but being a GSM device, you can travel with it... so you can still put SIM cards in it and use it in London, UK, for example?




there are apparently 2 models, a CDMA+GSM version and a GSM version.

quote:

The Blackberry Storm 9500 will be sold through Vodafone networks and will be free on monthly plans of 35 GBP and up with an 18-month contract.

The Blackberry Storm 9530 is the variant of the handset that will be sold in North America. Along with the quad-band GSM and 2100Mhz UMTS support that the 9500 model has, it will also offer CDMA2000 1xEV-DO support.


http://www.gsmarena.com/blackberry_...al-news-616.php


Posted by Jem_hadar on Oct-13-2008 14:16:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL


CDMA+GSM version


Interesting.


Posted by rabbitjoker on Oct-13-2008 14:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Jem_hadar
Interesting.


It's a BB "World Phone". They already have a BB (8830) with it available on TELUS/Bell Mobility.

Uses CDMA in North America, but comes with a SIM Card for GSM usage for the rest of the world. They are locked to not work on domestic GSM providers (either via frequency or via network locking).


Posted by monishb on Oct-13-2008 23:12:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
It's a BB "World Phone". They already have a BB (8830) with it available on TELUS/Bell Mobility.

Uses CDMA in North America, but comes with a SIM Card for GSM usage for the rest of the world. They are locked to not work on domestic GSM providers (either via frequency or via network locking).


Just to clarify the world edition 8830 is NOT LOCKED! it only is CDMA1x EVDO/REV A/GSM (DUAL BAND) not QUAD BAND


Posted by monishb on Oct-13-2008 23:15:

quote:
Originally posted by SasH21
Ok so i got the scoop from my boyfriend who works for telus corporate.
the device is a cdma/quad band gsm device, so yes you can travel with it internationaly.

telus will be the only carrier with this device in canada. verizon in the states.

will be available very soon, but at a hefty price.



Yes the GSM portion of the storm will be unlocked, the world edition 8830 Telus has right now is not locked either its just Dual Band GSM works in Europe/Asia only, the Storm is a true Iphone killer and multiple radios in it CDMA/GSM closest to a true world phone in the market available you can get.


Posted by monishb on Oct-13-2008 23:17:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
coolio!
don't get the "cdma/quad band gsm device" part though - so it's CDMA in Canada, but being a GSM device, you can travel with it... so you can still put SIM cards in it and use it in London, UK, for example?


Funkycrew, The CDMA portion will works while in the Americas, however the GSM portion will pick up while in Europe and Rest of Asia, but yes you can pop in a sim while travelling abroad with a different carrier


Posted by FunkyCrew on Oct-13-2008 23:50:

quote:
Originally posted by monishb
Funkycrew, The CDMA portion will works while in the Americas, however the GSM portion will pick up while in Europe and Rest of Asia, but yes you can pop in a sim while travelling abroad with a different carrier


thanks for the reply


Posted by dEsidEL on Oct-14-2008 01:05:

quote:
Originally posted by monishb
Just to clarify the world edition 8830 is NOT LOCKED! it only is CDMA1x EVDO/REV A/GSM (DUAL BAND) not QUAD BAND




heh oh man that sucks.. but then again not surprising either


Posted by DigitalMP on Oct-14-2008 01:31:

Here's a nice lil' linky from my fav site - click me!

I'm not sold just yet...sexy, yes, but I'm thinking Bold at this point. My contract has four months left on it before I escape Verizon (CDMA, and the only Storm svc provider in the states) for AT&T (all the cool phones, and the only iPhone svc provider in the states -- they're getting the Bold very soon as well).


Posted by monishb on Oct-14-2008 05:35:

quote:
Originally posted by DigitalMP
Here's a nice lil' linky from my fav site - click me!

I'm not sold just yet...sexy, yes, but I'm thinking Bold at this point. My contract has four months left on it before I escape Verizon (CDMA, and the only Storm svc provider in the states) for AT&T (all the cool phones, and the only iPhone svc provider in the states -- they're getting the Bold very soon as well).


DigitalMP....
Verizon in the US is going HSPA/3G and eventually with migrate to 4G/LTE which is the evolution path of GSM/2G , viceversa that is happening here right now in canada will be completed by beginning of 2010, so eventually even AT&T will move to HSPA and 4G/LTE all of their migration paths are moving to one standard estimated migration timeframe is 5 years where everyone will have a standard as HSPA devices or better known as 3G. Its only a matter of time now that all the telcos will have us by our balls.


Posted by DigitalMP on Oct-14-2008 12:26:

Feel free to throw in an extra "." now and then

Great info, but tell me something. Now I've never really done the smartphone/geek phone thing to a large extent. I've had my Black Moto Q for close to 2 years now, but Verizon's data plans are horrendous so I've avoided them.

Regardless, I hear a lot of people saying that you don't need WiFi with VZW's sick EVDO network. Does that ever limit one in any way to a phone that does use WiFi, as the CDMA Storm I've learned will not?


Posted by monishb on Oct-14-2008 14:45:

quote:
Originally posted by DigitalMP
Feel free to throw in an extra "." now and then

Great info, but tell me something. Now I've never really done the smartphone/geek phone thing to a large extent. I've had my Black Moto Q for close to 2 years now, but Verizon's data plans are horrendous so I've avoided them.

Regardless, I hear a lot of people saying that you don't need WiFi with VZW's sick EVDO network. Does that ever limit one in any way to a phone that does use WiFi, as the CDMA Storm I've learned will not?


will do on the "."

Wifi is great for travellers where they dont have coverage or is limited. But i spend 90% of my time in Canada or if maybe travel to the US once a while, so it would be really pointless for me to have WiFi specially with our data plans here you can get unltd Data for 15$(excluding tethering)/withing canada only. I am sure in the US you can get it cheaper for verizons retention team. And if you are abroad most people are bound to use pay as you go sim cards, in which the data rates might be cheaper depending which country. You have to look at the reality and see what your situation demands of you with your phone. I dont do the smartphone geek thing , the reason why i know all this is because i work for Telus here in Canada is required for me to stay upto date.

It Doesnt limit your phone in any form with or without Wifi, its just one of things nice to have but nowadays with so much competition they are cheap you have to negotiate with their retentions team, i get hundreds of people that pull that same shit everyday "give me a deal or i am leaving" but maybe if your nice to the person you talk to not overly or bad , could depend on the person. hope that helps


Posted by High on PSI on Oct-14-2008 14:48:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
what about the talks of Telus & Bell moving to GSM?

There was some intense talks during the summer of that happening sometime soon...



Not going to happen, its pointless with the new technology on the horizon.

Here is an article, as Telus officially annouced this a couple days after I posted it, i thought id follow up:

http://ca.news.finance.yahoo.com/s/...n-wireless.html


Posted by dEsidEL on Oct-15-2008 00:23:



4G/LTE has been in talks for years.. I can't wait till that day..

"Until all are one."
- Optimus Prime


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